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is it just me or is coffee euphoria strikingly similar to LSD excitation...? ;-)

thoughtsUnThought

thoughtsUnThought

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Now I am familiar of the few differences between the experiences of LSD and coffee lol. Hoooowwwever, me and a few trip friends always noted that the body high from coffee (not just caffeine, I'm talking magic beans here, tea is less acidy lol) is very similar to the euphoria rushes one receives during an LSD exp.

There seems to be a certain wide-eyed-feeling, teeth-clenching giddy mania which is common among these two vastly different compounds. Part of what got me so hooked on coffee was realizing how 'trippy' I felt after getting caffeine twacked and smoking weed. The combo makes for quite the 'adventuring' tone...I always am very curious and anxious-to-explore the world with this combo.

Anyways back to the point, coffee in particular provides the physical aspects of the psychedelia rush...while the herb provides neuro-abstraction and the trance-effects. Honestly though I only truly see the parallels of ergoloids with coffee though...not the other psychs I have exp with. Maybe the doxs or something may provide a similar rush, but I have no exp with them. I do however get a similar manic-feeling 'about to lose my mind but still I smile wider by the moment' sensation with mgs and hbwr...so it seems there is something comparable between my psyiological reaction to ergoloids and the alkaloids in coffee.

What do you guys think....? Is it just that the rush is typical of stimulants and I only have coffee to cite as an exp...? Or does the body high and rushiness of amps and/or cocaine have different qualities..? Like less acidy qualities... lol

Like I said a couple friends have agreed when we chatted of this in the past, and they do have exp with other stimulants.
 
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I agree that there is a certain similarity: the stimulation. I personally like a mild stimulant like coffee, and I prefer acid to shrooms because of this.
 
The other kind of acid quality to coffee is the mental eccentricity. Not just as in a stimulatory excitement of thoughts, but I tend to get a certain degree of the neuro-abstraction from coffee. Like I always start thinking all philosophcally and zen-like lol helps me to see the associative connectivity between ideas and seems to guide me toward relevant and isightful understandings. :-)

The tricky factor to measure in is that I tend t get very centered and at peace through the prospect of drinking coffee lol quite the addict, though I moderate myself now. Anyways, when I'm sitting there thinking 'I'm about to drink coffee' I get a certain release of neurotransmitters and hormones because of the addiction itself lol. And actually drinking it, besides the physical sensations also is conducive to me centering myself and zenning out, believe it or not meditation amidst the rush of coffee is highly accessible to myself. What I'm getting at is, I can't fully judge the effect of coffee on my psyche outside of the parallel effects I receive from the appeasing of a cafeine addiction. And also, the natural tendency for me to center my consciousness that the consumption brings is dirtying my studyable test results lol. Meditation has its own psychedelic-like effects for me....part of te effect is a whirlwind of neuro-chemical response from the drug, the addiction, and the self-induced meditative states...:\

Despite this, the idea stands of a certain tangent of effects between the two lol
 
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PS the caffeine spider in the second picture is an extra high dose

i think these spider webs reflect, act as visual symbols of human behaviors too.

more here: http://images.google.com/images?q=spiders+drugs

as for the euphoria being similar, it's all dopamine and adrenaline, irrelevant of how it's flicked on/off, and everyone's biochemistry is different; caffeine could give you euphoria but it makes me anxious, jittery, wired
 
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Love those pics...! :-) I remember those n my old 70s ed. of the Psychedelics Encyclopedia....oh where did you take my book, oh cute girl I never saw again...lol

Reflecting human behavior eh? Have to ponder that one...I can see the correlation though, cool idea :-)
 
I thought I read once that LSD seems to have less and less effect on animals with lesser developed brains... i.e., no cerebellum, no higher brain functions, no effect. I am skeptical that LSD would have ANY effect whatsoever on a spider with a practically so-tiny-as-to-be-nonexistent brain. Mescaline, yes, because the phenethylamine core could act as a stimulant.

I don't care if it was published in a peer-reviewed journal... that just means reviewers confirmed that the CLAIMED methods and conclusions make scientific sense... NOT that the experiment was reproduced by an independent lab. Has anyone ever reproduced and validated this repeated-ad-nauseum "spder web on LSD" effect? Probably not, I would guess. I call bullshit, as in RESEARCH FRAUD in order to have some spectacular result and attract attention the "brilliant scientist" involved.

But great try as an answer to the OP question. If you think coffee is almost exactly like LSD... um, dude, sorry to say, you got some crappy LSD or haven't yet taken enough. I mean really man, there is NO comparison whatsoever. You can't possibly be serious.
 
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lol, i was joking on the overall similarity being on the same side of the spectrum.

just the stimulation and eccentric trains of thoughts are simliar for me...jeez, woulda thought the commical nature would be obvious...but the point stands that i, and friends of mine have noticed that tweaky 'losin my mind' eccentricity is a common effect between the two. and like i said, although the stimulation is part of the effect it seems that coffee does produce a certain degree of neuro-abstraction as well.

i mean my second post was, 'they are indistinguishable in a double-blind'...come on, reeks of corny jokeyness
 
That's what I thought. But at least it brought up that "spiders on LSD" thing, it'll be interesting to see if anyone knows of any study that reproduced the effect, if not, my persnickety accusation stands!
 
Given how hard it is to get approval to use LSD for studies that could yield medical breakthroughs, I doubt they're going to let anyone play around dosing spiders to see how they make their webs. Would be a fun day at the lab, though.
 
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Given how hard it is to get approval to use LSD for studies that could yield medical breakthroughs, I doubt they're going to let anyone play around dosing spiders to see how they make their webs. Would be a fun day at the lab, though.
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but in the early sixties, people did research and wierd stuff like this with spiders all the time. In fact, that's how Timothy Leary did LSD for his first time.

So two researcher guys in the mid sixties are researching the effects of LSD on spiders. After preparing a large solution of sugar mixed with LSD and using a spoon to administer it to the spiders, the researchers, with no knowledge of the dosage of LSD, licked the spoon clean of sugar after it was served. Apparently they instantly became mystics and kind of made their way across the country spreading the word of LSD. Timothy Leary met them, and having only tried psilocybin before, took their advice and ate a heaping spoonful of their sugar LSD. He tripped for a week.

I read about it in his autobiography I thought I'd share the story.
 
I have at least two questions- do researchers make a habit of licking up chemicals? And how do you heap a solution?
 
No. I suppose they both give you that "I have to move my limbs right now" sort of quasi-stimulation but honestly I don't even think they are remotely close out of that. I do not even think the character of the stimulation is similar.
 
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but in the early sixties, people did research and wierd stuff like this with spiders all the time. In fact, that's how Timothy Leary did LSD for his first time.

So two researcher guys in the mid sixties are researching the effects of LSD on spiders. After preparing a large solution of sugar mixed with LSD and using a spoon to administer it to the spiders, the researchers, with no knowledge of the dosage of LSD, licked the spoon clean of sugar after it was served. Apparently they instantly became mystics and kind of made their way across the country spreading the word of LSD. Timothy Leary met them, and having only tried psilocybin before, took their advice and ate a heaping spoonful of their sugar LSD. He tripped for a week.

I read about it in his autobiography I thought I'd share the story.
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Sounds like complete and under asinine bullshit.
 
You guys just haven't had Good Coffee ;)
The bunk Folgers isn't as trippy as the high quality Arabica...lol jk funny though, I kinda figured people wouldn't know what I was talking about or wouldn't agree....lol but hey in my coffee lies the key to infinite, you guys are missin out ;)
 
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