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[swedger77]

4MemABP :- alpha-EthylMephedrone

being supplied by a very reputable supplier. Anyone guinea pigging this yet. (I know fuck all about chemistry but i bet it has fuck all to do with Mephedrone!)

 

[hx_]

i believe they are supposedly 100 - 110mg of 6-apb and fuck knows what else that give you the shits the next day

I've found this with 6 and 5-ABP powder, both non and "official". Not good if you're in a grimey club where all the loo roll has been stolen by the K heads.


Ethylphenidate seemed pretty great, but I can't really can't pass a true judgement since I was tipsy at the time and have only had one dose. Me and 3 others had a 50mg line before hitting the town and they all loved it. Quite a clean stim, reminds me of speed but with hints of the manic-ness/pushiness that meph had. Lasted about an hour and half and majorly wanted more when it wore off, but didn't have any on me. Sleep possible but slightly difficult after 4 hours.

Quite looking forward to 25I-NBOMe, the price is ridiculous! 20 pence a strong dose!

 

[rickolasnice]

RE: The "benzo fury" pellet..

"Hi Rick,

Benzo Fury contain 125mg of 6-APB.

Our APB pellets contain a mixture of 5 and 6APB, the total active ingredient is 130mg.

Best Regards,

XXX"

^That was an E-mail from a vendor.. obviously selling both "benzo fury" (which comes in that exact packaging) and APB pellets (which come in a baggy)..

 

[hx_]

RE: The "benzo fury" pellet..

"Hi Rick,

Benzo Fury contain 125mg of 6-APB.

Our APB pellets contain a mixture of 5 and 6APB, the total active ingredient is 130mg.

Best Regards,

XXX"

^That was an E-mail from a vendor.. obviously selling both "benzo fury" and APB pellets..

I never really got much off the "Benzo" tabs, but the mix one was one of the most euphoric experiences I've ever had. It's certainly a lot nicer mixed I reckon. Odd that the mix ones are cheaper.

 

[rickolasnice]

4MemABP :- alpha-EthylMephedrone

being supplied by a very reputable supplier. Anyone guinea pigging this yet. (I know fuck all about chemistry but i bet it has fuck all to do with Mephedrone!)

Or otherwise known as 4-methylbuphedrone..

From another forum:

100mg oral had about a 40 minute onset and produced roughly 45 minutes of stimulation that felt very hard on the heart, with only a very slight hint of empathogenic properties. The comedown was not harsh but just made the experience more disappointing. That being said, this chemical is the least useful thing I've come across. I might even just throw it out. I see more potential in MDPV than this.

This is a pretty harsh review and I would typically plan to try a larger administration for better effects, but because of the adverse heart effects I am not interested at all. I have no experience with mephedrone, but this doesn't even come close to methylone.

 

[rickolasnice]

I never really got much off the "Benzo" tabs, but the mix one was one of the most euphoric experiences I've ever had. It's certainly a lot nicer mixed I reckon. Odd that the mix ones are cheaper.

Demand is probably higher. Plus the money they put into packaging the shit and also apparently copyrighting the name and all art work on the package.

 

[hx_]

Demand is probably higher. Plus the money they put into packaging the shit and also apparently copyrighting the name and all art work on the package.

I wonder if they would actually bother taking anyone to court about it. Its a pisstake really, untested chemicals based around existing ones copyrighted for sale by a select few. Didn't seem to stop anyone else selling it tho!

 

[OfLittleWorth]

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[OfLittleWorth]

 

[33Hz]

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These are decent but for some reason they gave me more side effects than the plain 6-ABP powder. Weird how some people don't get much off 6-ABP, for me it's one of the longest acting empathogens Ive tried! Maybe its a purity issue.

 

[az5000]

Note - Mods feel free to move this if you feel somewhere else would be more appropriate

Anyone tried methylphenidate? From what I understand, it's a metabolite of methylphenidate produced specifically when comsumed with alcohol. I received 500mg this morning. I'm not usually into pure stims, but this stuff seems to be pretty nice for sitting down and getting work done (at least at lower doses).

I've tried fairly high quality amphetamine before and determined that it really isn't for me (I'm a fiend and carry on taking it until it's gone, more to avoid the crash rather than extending the high). This stuff seems more euphoric than speed (and possibly even coke? yet to see) and I can see how it might be pretty easy to fall into the trap of justifying using it to get stuff done and the good side effects being purely incedental.

I didn't want to post a whole new trip report for it and it seems to be EU exclusive at the moment so this seemed like the most appropriate place for it.

The substance was a white crystalline solid with slight but notable sweet ester-like smell. Fairly large crystals ranging from 0.1 - 3mm resembling snow or even shards of glass. Measured 50mg (+-5mg), put between a piece of paper and crushed into a fine powder using a debit card with minimal effort.

Insufflated a very small amount (roughly 5mg) and noticed some minor irritation and a bit of blood in the nose. This is pretty usual for me whenever taking things by the nasal ROA so I wasn't too worried. After closer inspection there are still fairly sharp shards so I crush it further until there are none visible. Insufflated a bit more using other nostril. Still felt the irritation, but no blood this time. It sits at the back of my nose for a while and I start to get a burning sensation, but nothing too serious. A little bit like it is reacting with my nose somehow but there is no blood and after looking carefully there doesn't seem to be any chemical burns

T=10mins : Was able to concentrate much easier on an assignment without getting distracted by other stuff. Words and ideas seem to flow more easily and I know it's probably a placebo but in a much more creative mood than usual. Kind of similar to when I take Methoxetamine, everything suddenly seems to make sense and I start to spot obscure links between concepts which in a sober state I would not.

T=25mins : was starting to feel some mild euphoria and slightly increased heartrate similar to after MDMA consumption. Increased desire to socialise, but nothing extreme. Writing is much more pleasurable than usual and I seem to get a great deal of satisfaction rather than doing stuff "because I have to do". I'm actually starting to enjoy doing the work even though it's on a pretty dull subject. Realised that I know a lot more about the area than I thought and am actually pretty proud of myself.

T=40mins : Euphoria seems to have diminished, but creativeness remains. Wrote almost 500 words in under roughly 40 mins (would usually take me about 1hr30+ depending on the topic) although I do seem to be rambling in certain parts and have to keep reminding myself to stay on topic.

(Note - I assumed that when I looked back at this essay it would probably be horribly formed and lacking in structure but even in hindsight I don't think I could have produced it better had I been baseline)

T=1hr:20 : Taking a break from the essay for a while, pretty much all the effects seemed to have worn off but there now seems to be some lingering vasoconstriction in my feet that I didn't notice before. This is pretty normal for me as I even get it without taking anything, but it feels a little worse than normal and I have to keep wiggling my toes to stop them going numb.

T=3hr : Feel pretty much baseline except for the vasoconstriction in feet. Not really noticed any anorexia but then again I don't usually get hungry until early afternoon anyway. Manage to stomach a banana fine although my stomach did make some pretty weird noises. I feel a little bit out of it, but nothing compared to what I would after taking amphetamine. I do have a pretty strong compulsion to redose but i'm going to avoid it at least for a couple of hours to make sure that there isn't going to be a speed-like comedown.

Will probably redose in a couple of hours once i'm definitely back at baseline. Might even have a bit of a binge on it, I have plenty of etizolams and some diazepam at hand should things turn nasty. Interested to hear other peoples take on this chemical and anything you might have experienced with it

 

[rickolasnice]

Think you mean ethylphenidate

I've heard it's pretty decent.. i'm gonna get some myself when i get some money.

And yeah it's methylphenidates version of cocaethylene. (Cocaine + Alcohol = cocaethylene and methylphenidate + alcohol = ethylphenidate)

 

[Vader]

Anyone here got any experience with 2C-P? How's it compare to 2C-E?

 

[trammies]

I've tried 2C-P,
If I'm really honest, I don't remember too much of the experience, I took it stupidly without really knowing what it was... Through insufflation as well... Spet most of teh time on it lying in my bed listening to music watching CEVs.
It's certainly very visual anyway, not overly headtrippy, but it is there.
Haven't tried 2C-E yet, so I cannae compare.

Would the fact many people get the shits from 5/6-APB not be because of the way it works on the serotonin system, similar to that of MDMA?

 

[Vader]

Snorting 2Cs is fucking awful, I've vowed to myself that I'm never going to suffer it again. It's not just serotonergics that give you the shits, dopaminergics/adrenergics do too (who doesn't like a nice coke-poo?), and MDMA is a mixed monoamine releaser, so it's probably a combination of factors. Then again, tobacco and cannabis both make me need to shit, as do some trips, the only drugs that don't are downers/opies.

 

[az5000]

Would the fact many people get the shits from 5/6-APB not be because of the way it works on the serotonin system, similar to that of MDMA?

I'm assuming this is correct, however personally I find 6-APB much worse for this. About 30-40 minutes after taking 6-apb I have to immediately evacuate my bowels (assuming this is due to the massive serotonin release). When I take pure MDMA, I get some nausea and occasionally a bit of diarrhea but nowhere near near as much as with 6-APB. Maybe something else is at play too?

 

[Myshkin]

Anyone here got any experience with 2C-P? How's it compare to 2C-E?

Unfortunately I haven't. It sounds like my kind of thing though.

I can imagine the duration puts a lot of people off, especially if it does the same trick 2C-E does where it seems to fade and then proceeds to hit you with full-on Emu-vision when you're completely unprepared.

 

[jancrow]

...various things...

How much did you take in total, do you think?

 

[trammies]

Snorting 2Cs is fucking awful, I've vowed to myself that I'm never going to suffer it again. It's not just serotonergics that give you the shits, dopaminergics/adrenergics do too (who doesn't like a nice coke-poo?), and MDMA is a mixed monoamine releaser, so it's probably a combination of factors. Then again, tobacco and cannabis both make me need to shit, as do some trips, the only drugs that don't are downers/opies.

I've never gotten the shits from more dopminergic/adrenergic stims, but taking a shit is always easier... Only ever had MDMA shits once, and it was the morning after taking it.
I think I remember reading about MDMA shits in ED and it was stated it was mainly due to Serotonergic action, but I suppose all of the main 3 stimulating/euphoria causing neurotransmitters seem quite inextricably linked to the bowels, so of course they would all affect them. Most of the serotonin in your body's found in the large intestine, isn't it?

 

[hx_]

Think you mean ethylphenidate

I've heard it's pretty decent.. i'm gonna get some myself when i get some money.

And yeah it's methylphenidates version of cocaethylene. (Cocaine + Alcohol = cocaethylene and methylphenidate + alcohol = ethylphenidate)

It is actually pretty decent, I'll dig out the review I wrote. Its rather short as it was only written in order to get more free drugs, tis honest tho.

Looks exactly the same as what oflittleworth posted, except for the bag. Some clear some cloudy small crystals and sparkley powder. Not uniform at all. Didn't bother crushing them much and it burned quite nasty, reckoned I could feel effects within 30 seconds but not sure if it could have been placebo due to drinking beforehand.

Basically we got a bit pissed, had a line and went clubbing. Really euphoric for the first hour or so. Nicely rushing, quite like meph but not as forced. All the people who had it were mildly fiending for more but nothing too bad.


HERE:

"On a friday night 4 testers infufflated a single amount of between 30-50mg of ethylphenidate each, due to personal preferences. Within 5 minutes a soaring euphoria was present and they decided to find somewhere to socialise, due to being bored indoors.

They made it to a place where lots of their friends were and found the ethylphenidate to give huge amounts of energy, a desire to socialise and to chat with people they didn't even know. This lasted for around 2 hours and slowly returned to baseline over the next 2. Sleep was possible 4 hours after the initial dose. When the effects started to reduce there was a significant urge to take more but the sample was thankfully not easily accessable by this point."