What is the total milligrams of compound in a 250mg per mL 10ml vial?

The person I read about that used HCG only ran a 10 week cycle, is this considered long?

not sure why you mix clomid and nolva for PCT since they are about the same. I read nolva's drawback is reduced gains in some bodybuilders due to its possible ability to reduce IGF.

don't I need only one or the other between tamoxifen (nolvadex) and clomifene (clomid) for PCT? That's what I've been reading, but some people use both, like nolva for first 4 weeks then finally 2 weeks of clomid. something like that. But most PCT I read were only about 4-5 weeks total.

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HCG is good if you are running very long cycles or if you are bothered by your testicles shrinking. For PCT I always use a combination of Nolvadex and Clomid. While on cycle (OCT) I always use Anastrozole to prevent gyno and severe bloating.
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one thing is clear to me; for OCT, Arimidex is a clear winner. For PCT, it seems like it's Clomid, but the per milligram cost and effectiveness vs Nolvadex, seems like Nolvadex wins compared to Clomid, but only by few cents or dollars more.

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You can keep all the gains you make on Testosterone easily. It's one of the easiest steroids to keep gains from. All you need is solid PCT.
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ongos said:
The person I read about that used HCG only ran a 10 week cycle, is this considered long?

not sure why you mix clomid and nolva for PCT since they are about the same. I read nolva's drawback is reduced gains in some bodybuilders due to its possible ability to reduce IGF.

don't I need only one or the other between tamoxifen (nolvadex) and clomifene (clomid) for PCT? That's what I've been reading, but some people use both, like nolva for first 4 weeks then finally 2 weeks of clomid. something like that. But most PCT I read were only about 4-5 weeks total.
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10 weeks is not long at all.

Nolva and Clomid are not the same. Nolva acts on estrogen receptors under your nipples to prevent gyno after cycle while Clomid stimulates testosterone production in the testes. Yes, Nolva does result in reduced gains and that is why you run it after your cycle as PCT. You need both Nolva and Clomid. But hey, if you want to risk gyno then by all means don't listen to what I am telling you.
 
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one thing is clear to me; for OCT, Arimidex is a clear winner.
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Without a doubt. Without a doubt. Arimidex is an amazing compound, not to harsh and rather easy to dose and when at the right dose it reduces estrogen levels and prevents aromisation just enough to prevent bloat and gyno, but not enough to hinder gains.

Letrozole is more cost effective in the long run but that shit is very harsh and extremely difficult to dose. Some epople only need 0.25mg while others need 1mg and other's 0.50mg. If you ever notice lumps under your nipples that are sore or itch get yourself some Letrozole, that shit will dry up all the estrogen in your body and literally vaporize the developing gyno. I always have a bottle on hand just in case.
 
oh I'm listening, but the thing is if you're on Arimidex while OCT to prevent gyno (etc.), there shouldn't be a concern of getting gyno to be using Nolva for PCT, just Clomid. Anyway, not sure how much pill I will need. I have access to Clomid at 50mg (20 pill per pack) and Nolva at 10mg (60 pill per pack). Is 1 pack of each good enough? I read that for Nolva, 40mg a day is required for the first week, then gradually reduced to 10mg at the final week of the PCT.

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10 weeks is not long at all.

Nolva and Clomid are not the same. Nolva acts on estrogen receptors under your nipples to prevent gyno after cycle while Clomid stimulates testosterone production in the testes. Yes, Nolva does result in reduced gains and that is why you run it after your cycle as PCT. You need both Nolva and Clomid. But hey, if you want to risk gyno then by all means don't listen to what I am telling you.
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Taking a sip of water after dosing Arimidex will not make it lose potency. Arimidex is not cough medicine, it isn't formulated to coat your throat.
 
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oh I'm listening, but the thing is if you're on Arimidex while OCT to prevent gyno (etc.), there shouldn't be a concern of getting gyno to be using Nolva for PCT, just Clomid. Anyway, not sure how much pill I will need. I have access to Clomid at 50mg (20 pill per pack) and Nolva at 10mg (60 pill per pack). Is 1 pack of each good enough? I read that for Nolva, 40mg a day is required for the first week, then gradually reduced to 10mg at the final week of the PCT.
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There is a concern because after your cycle ends, you stop taking the Arimidex and Testosterone E. There will be a surge in estrogen and a drop in testosterone in the body. The Clomid stimulates Testosterone production in the gonads but while that is occurring excess estrogen in the body has the ability to bind to receptors in the tissue under the nipples. ONce you get gyno, the only way to get rid of it is surgery but even after that it can still occur again and you become even more sensitive to getting it.
 
I read something regarding the body reaching homeostasis when I stick to a flat steroid dose cycle, this might be regarding a 12 week cycle, upon 8 weeks the dose need to be increased, something about myostatin levels. Since I only have 2 vials of Test Enanthate should I do it this way: 500mg weekly for 4 weeks, then dose up 625mg weekly for the last 4 weeks, or how should I split this up? Do I just stick with a flat dose of 500mg weekly for 10 weeks, then the Anavar comes in at 100mg the last 2 weeks of my 10 week cycle.
 
Ok. For someone like Arnold, wouldn't something like Anavar keep him looking good? it's a "feel good" or "look good" steroid last time I re-searched. It hardens the muscles instead of him looking saggy. If I were in his place, I think this would be the steroid of choice for his age as well.

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Excellent. 28 is a perfect age to begin using steroids.

OCT is mainly to prevent gyno and estrogen related sides. It also can include other compounds such as Cabergoline, Finisteride, Propecia, etc... but you don't have to worry about any of that. Steroids are going to make your testes shrink, it happens, that's the name of the game. On cycle you don't have to worry about this though because PCT is meant to restart hormone production in your testes and make them return to normal size. Gyno is not reversible, by the time you get gyno and realize it, the only way to eliminate it is surgery or to use Letrozole (if you get at it quick enough) to send it into remission but it could flare up again. You are only running a short cycle, you don't have to worry about your testicles shrinking to the size of peas unless you are running a half year cycle. The typical gym rat doesn't have to use HCG and what not. All you need is Anastrozole while on cycle, and Clomid and Nolvadex for PCT.

Testosterone has been around since 1920. During the time of Arnold and Lou they had all esters of Testosterone available. Testosterone is a steroid. Boldenone is a steroid. Stanazol is a steroid. EQ is a steroid. They are all steroids. People back then used PCT, they only had stuff like Clomid and Nolva. THe didn't have any aromatase inhibitors though. One thing you need to realize is that pro bodybuilders don't use PCT because they are on cycle for years at a time. They never come off.

Bodybuilders back then were using everything. Testosterone. Deca. Dianabol. Anadrol. Primobolan. Equipoise. Parabolan. You name it.

They both look like shit now because they started cycling at a such a young age and used so many compound for so long they couldn't maintain their physique without steroids. It's a shame because Arnold looked great. Perfect ratios. Thin waist. That picture of him floating around unfortunately is not a photoshop. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten back on steroids, bodybuilding doses at least because I'm sure he is on 200mg of Test E a week for Testosterone Replacement Therapy to stabilize his hormones.

Anastrozole is sufficient at a dose of 0.50mg when running 500mg of Testosterone a week. That is actually my daily dose and it's just right.
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Seems like Clomid is expensive. Is it ok to replace it with HCG? HCG and Nolva, not Nolva and Clomid. The HCG therapy seem quicker, therefore cheaper (1000 IUs daily for 10 days), whereas Clomid is for 4-5 weeks starting at 150mg daily for 2 weeks, then 100mg daily for 2 weeks, then 50mg daily for a week.

After the 10 day HCG therapy, then I can start my 4 week Nolva PCT (40mg daily for 2 weeks, 20mg daily for last 2 weeks). I looked these cycles up, seems like it's the most popular.

If I could replace Clomid with HCG, I'd only need 2 vials of HCG (5000 IUs per vial). If Clomid is better, I'd need 4 packs of it (50mg, 20 pill per pack), meaning I'd be paying double for Clomid compared to HCG. 1 HCG vial is the same price as 1 pack of Clomid. You see?

Or I could go the research chemical route? It is cheaper, but the "not intended for human use" warning is there for a reason. LOL.


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There is a concern because after your cycle ends, you stop taking the Arimidex and Testosterone E. There will be a surge in estrogen and a drop in testosterone in the body. The Clomid stimulates Testosterone production in the gonads but while that is occurring excess estrogen in the body has the ability to bind to receptors in the tissue under the nipples. ONce you get gyno, the only way to get rid of it is surgery but even after that it can still occur again and you become even more sensitive to getting it.
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ongos said:
I read something regarding the body reaching homeostasis when I stick to a flat steroid dose cycle, this might be regarding a 12 week cycle, upon 8 weeks the dose need to be increased, something about myostatin levels. Since I only have 2 vials of Test Enanthate should I do it this way: 500mg weekly for 4 weeks, then dose up 625mg weekly for the last 4 weeks, or how should I split this up? Do I just stick with a flat dose of 500mg weekly for 10 weeks, then the Anavar comes in at 100mg the last 2 weeks of my 10 week cycle.
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Stick with 500mg a week. You want stable plasma levels. Then add the Anavar 100mg a day for the last two weeks to harden everything up.
 
ongos said:
Ok. For someone like Arnold, wouldn't something like Anavar keep him looking good? it's a "feel good" or "look good" steroid last time I re-searched. It hardens the muscles instead of him looking saggy. If I were in his place, I think this would be the steroid of choice for his age as well.
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No. It's a 17a oral. He could only use it for a max of 8 weeks then he would have to give his liver a break and go back to looking like shit. It's a poor choice for someone his age because it will only lower is testosterone level more, not to mention his body fat is too high to reap the benefits if Anavar. It's a poor choice of a steroid to run alone at any age. The only people who can run it alone are women and AIDS patients.
 
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Seems like Clomid is expensive. Is it ok to replace it with HCG? HCG and Nolva, not Nolva and Clomid. The HCG therapy seem quicker, therefore cheaper (1000 IUs daily for 10 days), whereas Clomid is for 4-5 weeks starting at 150mg daily for 2 weeks, then 100mg daily for 2 weeks, then 50mg daily for a week.

After the 10 day HCG therapy, then I can start my 4 week Nolva PCT (40mg daily for 2 weeks, 20mg daily for last 2 weeks). I looked these cycles up, seems like it's the most popular.

If I could replace Clomid with HCG, I'd only need 2 vials of HCG (5000 IUs per vial). If Clomid is better, I'd need 4 packs of it (50mg, 20 pill per pack), meaning I'd be paying double for Clomid compared to HCG. 1 HCG vial is the same price as 1 pack of Clomid. You see?

Or I could go the research chemical route? It is cheaper, but the "not intended for human use" warning is there for a reason. LOL.
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No. HCG will restore size to the testes but it won't restore function like Clomid does. Clomid and Nolva is the definitive PCT. HCG is for use on cycle only anyways.

If you run HCG and Nolva you will end up with size restored in your testes and no gyno, but your testosterone levels will be horribly low and you will feel like shit, lose your gains, and lose muscle you had before your gains. You will end up smaller and softer than you were before steroids.
 
ongos said:
Or I could go the research chemical route? It is cheaper, but the "not intended for human use" warning is there for a reason. LOL.
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You could. I do. The only reason that warning is there is so they aren't liable for any mistakes made by people using their products and so they can sell that stuff without having the FDA on their ass.
 
I think I will do this for Anastrozole, since it comes in liquid form and has an eye dropper. Clomid and Nolva I'm not too sure, I've seen these 2 in vials only with no eye dropper to measure.

How do you measure 0.5 of Anastrozole accurately? Do you just look at half of 1ml? I know most droppers have a measurement in whole numbers, like 1ml, 2ml, etc, not by halves.

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You could. I do. The only reason that warning is there is so they aren't liable for any mistakes made by people using their products and so they can sell that stuff without having the FDA on their ass.
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ongos said:
I think I will do this for Anastrozole, since it comes in liquid form and has an eye dropper. Clomid and Nolva I'm not too sure, I've seen these 2 in vials only with no eye dropper to measure.

How do you measure 0.5 of Anastrozole accurately? Do you just look at half of 1ml? I know most droppers have a measurement in whole numbers, like 1ml, 2ml, etc, not by halves.
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I'm pretty sure Clomid and Nolva come with an eye dropper as well, where I get my stuff from any premixed compound comes with an eyedropper for easy dosing. Even if they didn't for some strange reason with your source just simply buy a 1ml calibrated eye dropper that has markings on it from 0.1ml - 1.0ml. It makes for some very very accurate dosing.

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I'm aware of Anastrozole (AI) research chemical being used by bodybuilders now. I'm re-searching more on Clomifene and Tamoxifene (SERMs). I already have all my gear ready except for OCT and PCT gear. I'm looking around if research chemical versions of Clomifene and Tamoxifen is legitimate to use. I've seen all 3 that comes with an eye dropper.

Anastrozole RCs are usually light dosed at 1mg, therefore I can understand people able to alternatively use it as their OCT, but Clomifene and Tamoxifen RCs are usually dosed higher, usually starting at 20mg, therefore I'm not sure if such a high dose is ok to use, especially since it's a research chemical.

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There are some research chemical companies out there that sell what you need already mixed and bottled. For example, you can buy 30ml of Clomid at 20mg a ml. You can also purchase IGF-1, Melanotan II, and GHRP-6 in vials but all you have to do is add bacteriostatic water. They get away selling Clomid, Anastrozole, Letrozole, Clenbuterol, T3, and other compounds because they market them for "research use". There are a few good companies out there that sell stuff that is 98.6% pure, and tested. You simply measure with a 1ml eye dropper that is marked 0.25ml, 0.50ml, 1ml and dose according to what you want.
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Bro, the dosages they come at has nothing to do with use during OCT or PCT. That's just the standard they come at. They are totally fine to use, I have used them myself. The dosages aren't "to high", that's just the standard dose per milliliter. Look at a basic cycle-


10 week starter cycle

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enathate per week

Weeks 1-10: 0.25mg - 0.50mg of Anastrozole a day

Weeks 11-16: 20mg of Tamoxifen every day

Weeks 11-16: 50mg of Clomiphene every day

These compounds being marketed as research chemicals are no different than the pills. They only thing is they are cheaper.
 
ok. other Intramuscular injection sites I know of are: abs, lats, biceps, pectorals, calves, quadriceps, deltoids, traps, and triceps. I might mix it up to see which one I feel comfortable most and get the easiest shot. You're right, laying in a fetal position does feel and show the glute's lean muscle, cause you see, if standing up, it's mostly buttcheeks.

Now here's how I will be taking my gear: I've already been shooting the HGH before bedtime and I'll stick with this schedule, so I will be shooting Test Enanthate every Monday when I wake up. Should I take my Anavar pre-workout? I'll be taking Anavar on the last 2 weeks of my 10 week Test Enanthate cycle. Not sure when do I take the 0.5 or 1mg of Arimidex? I guess same day I start shooting the Testosterone (Monday). Does it matter? I guess coming home from work daily is ok or after a workout daily?

Another thing, is it ok to stay on HGH cycle while on PCT (using Clomid and Tamoxifen)? Because since HGH cycle is usually for 6 months, that means my Test Enanthate/Anavar cycle would end first because it's only for 10 weeks, this would mean I would still be on an HGH cycle for whatever more months left to go. I'm already on my 2nd month of HGH cycle. I will be adding Test Enanthate and Anavar soon (plus Arimidex). Going into my 3rd month of HGH cycle (which means I have 4 months to go out of 6), is when I will be adding Test Enanthate and Anavar (with Arimidex). I have 16 weeks (4 months) left to go to complete my HGH cycle and 10 weeks of steroid cycle, which means, my steroid cycle will end first, and I'd still be on HGH cycle for another 6 weeks. I hope this is ok and won't have any interaction with the PCT (using Clomid and Tamoxifen).

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If you have a 1cc insulin syringe and you fill it up all the way, that will equate to 1ml of Testosterone at a dose of 250mg. Insulin syringes can be used for Testosterone injections as well as other steroids. I use them all the time because I don't like big needles. It takes a few minutes to draw up the oil though, it draws up slow, and it takes a little longer than usual to inject. If you inject into you glute while laying in the fetal position you will be able to hit the muscle.

Don't bother splitting up the 500mg dose to 250mg twice a week. It is not necessary with the half life of Testosterone E.
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