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trippindave

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The other night I took what I know to be PURE mdma. It was a capsule 1/3 filled with off white crystals, almost yellowish. My friends all took it and said it was the best pill they've had in a while and it was def pure mdma, and they know what they're talking about. anyways, i snorted a line and then ate the rest. I did have a come up however I never felt any lovey dovey effects and was just rather amp'd for about an hour. My eyes were really big and I was sorta rolling. After about 30 min when i knew i should have been rolling harder i took 2 5htps to help mellow out but it didnt do anything, probably only made it worse. about 1h30m into the roll i started to come down hard. It was very negative and I didnt like it at all. It makes me really sad because I know this is pure mdma and I couldnt even roll on it. I don't know what to think. I have done a good bit of random molly chems in the past and fear they may have ruined it for me but idk. This has happend before but I don't think it was with real mdma, it would be hard to tell tho since I never feel any normal effects. Can someone please help me out here? I don't feel too bad the next day aside from weird feelings in my head, which is pretty normal.
 
Just because your friends said it was pure does not mean it's the truth. How sure are YOU that it was pure(did you test it yourself?)

Snorting it would really diminish the lovey dovey effects and just give you a shorter lived amped type of feeling for a while.
Also did you know what the dosage was or a 1/3 filled capsule is the only measurement?
 
It was approx 120 mg. Also, yes it has been tested positive for MDMA. I didnt include that because all kinds of chems these days will test positive, but we know it was pure mdma. I'm just trying to figure out why I didnt roll.
 
I don't know then. You most likely shouldn't have snorted it. Or you could have perhaps lost the magic.
 
I only snorted about 30 mg tho, just to top it off. I think i may be leaning towards the latter.. :(
 
when is the last time you rolled? how often to you roll? I rolled three weekend in a row and granted they probably were not 100% pure and had some caffeine in the pills according to pill reports I did not feel the lovey dovey feeling very much the 2nd time and at all the 3rd time. If your brain does not have seretonin stored up in it, it will not be released in great quantity when you roll
 
I rolled about a month ago, I took 2ce about a week ago. I dont roll often anymore, i used to do it every other week or so. I know i shouldnt have taken that 5htp but I really wasnt feeling much 40 min into it so i thought it was a good idea. Is it possible that 120mg isnt enough? I would think it to be enough to start to feel basic effects...also method of ingestion..I did it under the toung..is it better just to swallow it?
 
Reckon the stuff you had was dodgy, try a different source. ive been doing decent mdma every weekend for months, always feel something good off it,
 
The source isnt the problem. He's legit. Its me thats the problem, this happens no matter where I get it from now. I just want to know why.
 
trippindave said:
I rolled about a month ago, I took 2ce about a week ago. I dont roll often anymore, i used to do it every other week or so. I know i shouldnt have taken that 5htp but I really wasnt feeling much 40 min into it so i thought it was a good idea. Is it possible that 120mg isnt enough? I would think it to be enough to start to feel basic effects...also method of ingestion..I did it under the toung..is it better just to swallow it?
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I heard under the tongue hits you faster, but I know for a fact the HCl will leave a nasty painful chemical burn under your tongue. Just put it in a capsule or a joint paper like a zig-zag and 'chute it :)

AND DO NOT TAKE 5HTP BEFORE OR DURING THE ROLL! NEVER!

L-Tryptophan is good afterward, but I mean like when you're already afterglowing, not even rolling anymore. Tryptophan is just the unconverted protein form of 5HTP. Let your body decide how it wants to break it down and where to send it. 5HTP is already partially broken down, and no foods naturally contain 5HTP (although most foods with protein have tryptophan which breaks down into 5HTP)

5HTP or even large amounts of L-tryptophan before or during a roll can cause serotonin syndrome, which can be fatal and severely damaging to the mind.

Remember, tryptophan is one of the least abundant (essential) proteins (because your body needs very little to make serotonin.)

I highly recommend purchasing a test kit next time you roll, eating a plentiful nutritious diet with plenty of complex carbohydrates, and waiting at least 45-90 days (longer is better!)
 
Do you think the 5htp is what caused me to crash? i think i may have been permantely damaged because I eat 5htp everytime i roll...damnit WHY would anyone tell you to take that during a roll...fuck. Well if that was the case, how long would a tolerance last? if I wait 3 months and take 125 mg will I still need my regular 200 mg or will it have gone down some?
 
People tell you to take 5-htp before and after rolling not during :P

You don't need to wait 3 months for your tolerance to drop, 1 month should be plenty.
 
around where i live a test kit is almost pointless if you know what your doing. I can easily taste it and tell if it is a MD analouge, they all have similar taste and smell, and there are probably 20 different chems being sold in powder from as "molly" and rarely is it ever mdma. this time however, I know it is MDMA. its just straight clearish crystals. My next question is, can the "lovey dovey" state be attained by 120 mg alone or does it require closer to 200 mg?
 
Till you taste test something active at single digit milligram or sub mg levels...

or get mdxx cut or adulturated with something...

A test kit is mandatory these days... get one and you'll see how your product satisfaction improves as well as your hookups... when your the guy to go to to find out if your stuff is good then suddenly you see everything around and can locate good stuff quickly

100mg of pure molly should have you off your face... the most I ever take of my stuff at once is 160mg... and that's a fucking lot... my normal dose is 80-120mg and that's strong
 
brimmy said:
People tell you to take 5-htp before and after rolling not during :P

You don't need to wait 3 months for your tolerance to drop, 1 month should be plenty.
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5HTP is pretty worthless before a roll IMO. You shouldn't need it if you are taking good breaks, and using it before puts you at higher risk for serotonin syndrome. It lowers the levels of dopamine and norepinephrine which are the other chemicals in the brain needed for a proper roll.

It's best just to wait 90 days between rolls and not take 5HTP. Instead wait until after the roll and just take 1000 mg L-tryptophan so you don't feel as shitty the next few days. Your body makes tryptophan into 5HTP on it's own. Tryptophan is just the raw protein form :) 5HTP is fine after the roll, but IMO your body likes making 5HTP on its own.

ChemicallyInsane said:
Till you taste test something active at single digit milligram or sub mg levels...

or get mdxx cut or adulturated with something...

A test kit is mandatory these days... get one and you'll see how your product satisfaction improves as well as your hookups... when your the guy to go to to find out if your stuff is good then suddenly you see everything around and can locate good stuff quickly

100mg of pure molly should have you off your face... the most I ever take of my stuff at once is 160mg... and that's a fucking lot... my normal dose is 80-120mg and that's strong
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^^ and this is accurate advice also :)

120-150 is a fat dose that should give full effects. If you ever need anything above 180, you really need a 3 month+ break
 
and i agree entirely, just asking, if it comes in little yellowish tinted rocks called "moon rocks" how could it be cut? I took the whole cap and barely felt it..thats why i decided to take 5htp and yes i now know thats what made me crash, but still i had taken probably almost 90-100 mg orally and 20-30 snorted. I should have been rolling off that and I wasnt. I had waited a month since my last. Is there any way it could just stop working somehow? like my brain chems are fucked from extended use?
 
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