The EADD Mental Health Support Thread

[Marmalade]

expensively-educated? .... ahhh not the Manchester 'School of Charm' Comprehensive you were dumped in then ;p

 

[Myshkin]

Cheeky git!

She went to North London Collegiate School for girls. I think she was one of about three sixth formers who didn't have some kind of plastic surgery. I was like some kind of ruddy-faced farmhand to her. Or something.

And yeah, I literally was dumped at a Manchester comprehensive, though I failed my charm GCSE miserably. As is clear to anybody who spends a few seconds in EADD.

 

[Kronos]

I'm feeling mental. In this madhouse they've thrown 100 different labels at me none of which have stuck. They really do love labelling people, some seem to have taken it as a personal insult that i've failed their PD/Depressive etc test.

 

[Allein]

I'll stand firmly in the pro-psilocybin corner too. It made me realise the value of my friendships, lifted me out of a hopeless, self-destructive mire, gave me a profound insight into how horrible I was capable of being at the time and allowed me to develop a proper relationship with my then-girlfriend, instead of treating her like an expensively-educated teenage blow-up doll.

Alright, so I kind of regret the last one, but there's a lot to be said for psilocybin as a tool for self-exploration. You definitely need to have a clear idea of what you're dealing with though.

This sounds like a quote from Colin Angus when he started distancing himself from the MDMA Scene, why do you think psilocybin is better than any other psychedelic ? I ask because I've only done it twice, the experience was OK but it didn't agree with my stomach all that well and I much preferred LSD all round. These are the only true psychedelics I've ever done, I don't count MDA or MD anything, to me its just not the same thing at all.

Hope to do DOM and DMT before I leave this world for good though

 

[brimz]

heres's a little something for y'all to ponder, i have spent hours on it !

Its actually part of the N.A text .

Insanity is when you continue to do something despite knowing that your actions are harming you and people you luv.
Yet you carry on doing said thing because your brain is telling you that this time the out come will be different , but deep down you know it won't .

Anyone thats been in drug treatment has probably heard this old chestnutt , i think it sums up addictive behaviour pretty well.
Also it makes a good argument for addiction it self being a illness .
Maybe not a mental illness but a disease of the soul ? Well thats how i interpret it .

Anyone ?

 

[Mailmonkey]

Also it makes a good argument for addiction it self being a illness .
Maybe not a mental illness but a disease of the soul ? Well thats how i interpret it .

Anyone ?

I have what could probably be labelled an "addictive personality". Am I ill? Am I diseased?

I dunno, I HAVE had problems with a number of drugs in the past, first alcohol, then acid beleive it or not, then speed addiction, then coke addiction....

I realised that my actions were harming myself and the people I loved, and have managed to control my addictive nature...

But I don't think a penchant for taking mind-altering substances is an illness in itself, it's something we'rre conditioned to think we should supress.

I'm happy with my penchant, but I've worked out myself how to integrate that into a life where family/work are more important.

I'm not sure what my point is...

Obviously I'm not diseased, nor am I a full-on addict as such, although I MIGHT be if I didn't have other things which required more focus.

I imagine a lot of drug treatment is getting people to reprioritise.

 

[Kronos]

I dunno, went to a NA meeting yesterday and it was interesting/nice for the people it worked for, i dont like the idea of shifting blame though, its my fault i'm addicted to shit and its my choice to keep taking em just like overweight people who choose to keep eating etc

Its not insanity, humans love instant gratification in any shape or form and telling youself itl be different is just a way of justification for it, and who knows maybe it will be different for me this time 8). But if that counts as insanity alot of the population are 'insane' for many reasons based on that, albeit to different levels as heavy drug users..

Thats my gut reaction to it anyways

 

[Myshkin]

This sounds like a quote from Colin Angus when he started distancing himself from the MDMA Scene, why do you think psilocybin is better than any other psychedelic ?

It's a tough one to answer. I've got a lot out of other psychedelics when it comes to 'clearing out' my head - 2C-E and LSD come to mind - but mushrooms feel like they have a new insight to offer whenever I'm tempted to take a higher, less 'recreational' dose. I feel as if I've gained all the insight I ever can from acid, and while I still love it I see it more as a hedonistic, swirly treat these days. I suppose a lot of it has to do with the way acid distinctly hits me in 'waves', where I can almost function normally for a time inbetween intense bursts of mental / visual fireworks.

I also feel a benign, comforting kind of (here I go again) 'presence' with psilocybin, whereas any time I feel a 'presence' on LSD it tends to be neutral at best and very often quite sinister.

I've only experienced oral DMT once but many aspects of it are very similar, save for the reduced duration (in comparison to psilocybin) condensing the trip and maintaining the intensity of the peak until you're almost back to baseline. Though I can see the impact of the trip having a similarly beneficial effect on almost anybody.

You're not the only one who's eyeing up DOM either, though I can't see me encountering it in a hurry.

 

[Ismene]

why do you think psilocybin is better than any other psychedelic ?

Higher purity?

I just think it has the most powerful anti-depressant effect in a purely physical sense. I don't mean that you have a wonderful trip and the trip makes you less depressed - I mean it does something to the workings of your brain. As long as you use it often enough. At least that's what I noticed - LSD doesn't seem to have the same effect.

but it didn't agree with my stomach all that well

How are you taking it? Dried and capsuled is quite comfortable. With a little essence of lemon oil to deactivate the nausea receptor if you really suffer.

Hope to do DOM and DMT before I leave this world for good though

DMT is like an extremely psychedelic version of mushrooms only with it's own unique feel. DOM is pretty much exactly the same as mescaline, perhaps not quite as enjoyable as a proper A/B extraction on cactus but wonderful stuff. Not life-changing or too psychedelic tho. Mostly just a nice bodyhigh.

 

[ColtDan]

feeling optimistic and all round good after my recent MXE experience, awesome afterglow.

 

[Myshkin]

My experience is limited but MXE is definitely a good antidepressant.

I tried it the night before I tried oral DMT, and I'm not sure which one (if any, or maybe it could've been both) did it but I'm not half as inclined to embark on navel-gazing depressive booze binges as I was, and I was very much inclined toward that.

He says, swilling his mouth out with Tyskie and putting on a Swans record.

In addition to that, the last M-hole I found myself in was a truly uplifting experience whereby I managed to get myself out of the 'doomed' frame of mind I've been in for a while, and in some style.

Higher purity?

Give over. :D

 

[Acidtek]

Mxe in small doses is a great anti depressant, little bumps throughout the day give a really pleasant mood lift! I just wish I could stick to small doses which I find really hard when I'm feeling low and I just want to escape reality for a bit!

 

[Myshkin]

The only way I can really deal with ketamine is at sub-hole doses and it does have a similarly profound effect on depression, especially if it's repeated, as you say.

MXE differs for me in that the actual experience (at higher doses) gives me a window on my problems from which I can work on them, whereas K just sends me psychotic, however pleasant said psychosis can be.

 

[Ismene]

I made the mistake of taking MXE orally a few weeks ago - drags on for about 8 hours and I had to get up at 6 to go to fucking work. Stick to snorting it I think.

 

[Myshkin]

D'you know what I'm going to do next time I get some MXE?

How was it in terms of intensity during those eight hours? Comparable to snorting?

 

[Acidtek]

When I sniff my m hole doses it lasts for hours anyway, it's most intense for about 3-4 hours and normally I don't sleep so I'm still wonky the next day!

 

[Ismene]

D'you know what I'm going to do next time I get some MXE?

How was it in terms of intensity during those eight hours? Comparable to snorting?

It's a strange wee beast taken orally - you don't get the body/mind seperation of K, you're just almost on the edge of it for the entire trip. Perhaps a bigger dose would get you there but it wasn't an experience to write home about.

When I sniff my m hole

As long as you don't sniff your A hole!

 

[Acidtek]

Shut up you! I only sniff sam's a hole!

 

[Bluebell]

Shut up you! I only sniff sam's a hole!

Ah sweet!

 

[Myshkin]

Both nostrils... nice and hard now, like you're gratefully sniffing the breeze at the summit of the Eiger.