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Women and Badboys

Also, "antisocial" is not the same as having a flawed social presence. It just means having a lower threshold for causing harm or getting aggressive with others (not necessarily out of a wish to harm, but for self-defence or because they can't help themselves). So, on the contrary, guys like that are often highly socially skilled, even brilliant. That is how they can get away with so much crap (i.e. show up in court and lie convincingly). The key is how much they get away with.
 
Never understood why women like bad boys, it just seems like a silly path to take. Unfortunately it takes most of those women a few beatings or being dragged along on a robbery before they realize how stupid it is. Will that happen to all of the women that go after bad boys? No. Is it worth the risk? Not really IMHO, but if you think it is don’t cry when it happens. Can’t say I’ve met many older women that were happy they chased after bad boys, most that I know have regretted it in the end.

This is coming from someone that was a bad boy for the first 25 years of his life.
 
eukaryote said:
Verso. I am a grow up. My mother is a Physician. I am not exactly heading off to school. I followed my mother into her profession. I am done my residency however. ;)

I met my 'bad boy'- a member of this site- rangrz- Because I joined the service as a reserve M.O. I am not sure why you joined to such asinine conclusions about who am I as a person based off a few words I posted.

As I said, I am not looking for someone who abuses me. I do though, like someone confidant, playful and who is exciting.

Perhaps I am using 'bad boy' differently?
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... I was making a joke, but I guess you haven't seen Dirty Dancing.
 
Ninae said:
Also, "antisocial" is not the same as having a flawed social presence. It just means having a lower threshold for causing harm or getting aggressive with others (not necessarily out of a wish to harm, but for self-defence or because they can't help themselves). So, on the contrary, guys like that are often highly socially skilled, even brilliant. That is how they can get away with so much crap (i.e. show up in court and lie convincingly). The key is how much they get away with.
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I see, thanks for clarifying.

I know a sociopath or two you'd love :p ;)
 
While I agree that the "bad-boy" persona that some adopt does tend to exhibit masculine qualities, I disagree about what people look for in a mate. I think that in a healthy family/relationship both parents need to be both nurturers and protectors. Personally, I want me a lioness. I am batshit crazy and I know it, and I need a woman who is at least as batshit crazy and dangerous as me. I really ain't into being held back and sacrificing myself to protect someone. If a girl can't fight as well as she fucks I ain't interested. If I am committed to someone it means I would get bloody and die for them, and I would expect the same from them. If I meet a woman who has killed I'm like Mmmmmmmmm....

Anyway, the point is that a woman who isn't tough as nails, and I'm assuming a man without a soft side, only brings half the equation. You need both qualities to be an attractive mate.
 
GenericMind said:
The point where a guy can get away with anything as long as he acts sweet sometimes is the point of no return imo. I've seen guys manipulate, use, and plunder a chick's life while she continued to think everyone misunderstood him and he was a teddy bear deep down.

Not saying that applies to you or any guy you know. That's just what I think of when I hear "Bad Boys".
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Oh, I've seen this way too many times. A common pattern here being that a guy like this will often initially be very nice toward a girl he's going for while still being a dick to everyone else.

I've given up on trying to warn women around me that guys they're falling for are assholes because I've come to realize that women seem to assume that when their male friends/their girlfriends' boyfriends/the guy's own friends tell her he's an asshole and bad news they think the other guys all have hidden agendas. From what I've seen they tend not to look at how the guy behaves toward other people, only how he behaves toward her.
 
L1LGuid0 said:
I guess I could be considered a bad boy. But anyways I find myself with a great need for a woman and go after them much more vigorously when I feel like prison or death could be imminent. Professionals probably figure they have forever to find Mrs. Right, plus they want to wine and dine, bad boyz cut straight to the chase. If we ain't afraid to hit the streets and get some money straight up lay a lame down and sleep like a baby that same night then obviously we ain't gonna be intimidated by no female. Straight up cut to the chase, woman love that shit.
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LOL. Right on the money. The real key is the lack of fear. Fear is the single most repulsive quality in a man (including any level of social anxiety) as well as low self esteem/confidence. He needs to have a healthy ego too, because if he feels he's not worth aything, how are you going to?

So if you have no problem with any of that you are miles and miles ahead of the average guy, cause, let's face it, what female is going to trust her own safety and the safety of her children with a guy who gets freaked out just by normal social interaction?

Having said that, you don't necesseraly need to end up with a guy who's going to end up in prison, but that is not really that common. Most live somewhere in between a decent and criminal life and unless they're unlucky avoid any real trouble.
 
artic said:
While I agree that the "bad-boy" persona that some adopt does tend to exhibit masculine qualities, I disagree about what people look for in a mate. I think that in a healthy family/relationship both parents need to be both nurturers and protectors. Personally, I want me a lioness. I am batshit crazy and I know it, and I need a woman who is at least as batshit crazy and dangerous as me. I really ain't into being held back and sacrificing myself to protect someone. If a girl can't fight as well as she fucks I ain't interested. If I am committed to someone it means I would get bloody and die for them, and I would expect the same from them. If I meet a woman who has killed I'm like Mmmmmmmmm....

Anyway, the point is that a woman who isn't tough as nails, and I'm assuming a man without a soft side, only brings half the equation. You need both qualities to be an attractive mate.
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You sound like you want a masculine/masculine interaction. While what is satifying for me is the feminine/masculine interaction and feeling the excitment and attraction from that polarity. I guess you are looking more for a "buddy with tits" but I have no interest in a "male girlfriend" - that would be very boring to me. Plus no real sexual chemisty.

Though many look for partners as much alike themselves as possible because they feel safe that way. Safe, but boring. Generates little emotions too, even emotions of love. I have tried both so I know the difference. But most don't have the balls to attempt a real polarised masculine/feminine relationship because it's tough. I just feel the rewards are worth it.
 
I don't think there's necessarily a connection between social anxiety and ability to defend one's self. I once saw Mike Tyson try stand up comedy once and he was completely terrified. Mike Tyson can certainly stand up for himself though. Likewise, I dislike having to much attention on me, but I can certainly defend myself. I just prefer to hang out in the background and grab the center stage for brief moments.
 
Fair point, people are complex and not sterotypes. Though Mike Tyson doing stand-up might not be the best example as he could be well out of his depth there. He might not be the best speaker, etc. And there's also a difference between physical and psychological strength. Psychological strenght is the most important as most conflicts are psychological these days.
 
Yea, occasionally guys come to blows, but 99% of the time it's on the psychological level. That's how a smaller guy can be more dominant and boss guys twice his size around.
 
Women who have not aged sufficiently mentally prefer bad boys. Once they hit their twenties they start realising going out with cunts all the time isnt working, so the good guys win eventually. That is unless you like being treated like shit, of course.
 
To tell you the truth, becoming a badboy doesn't happen by choice.

It defines you in two ways:

1> How and where you grew up defines your character

2> Revolting against the conservative "inside the box" conformist mentality that the media feeds you.
(Example: Go to college, become a doctor, get married, have kids.... etc)

There are also badgirls too, and not just badboys that also follow this exact same formula.
 
Tech Kinetics said:
To tell you the truth, becoming a badboy doesn't happen by choice.

It defines you in two ways:

1> How and where you grew up defines your character

2> Revolting against the conservative "inside the box" conformist mentality that the media feeds you.
(Example: Go to college, become a doctor, get married, have kids.... etc)

There are also badgirls too, and not just badboys that also follow this exact same formula.
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Trust me 99.99% of the badboys I know are not rebels against society, they are just cunts. I think a bad boy in the UK has a different meaning than what it does wherever you're from :P
 
Being a Bad Boy in America has absolutely to do with being successful, which is why I'm still considered destitute even though I'm the motha fuckin man, but that's alright, the right girl will come around eventually an realize who exactly the fuck I am. I'm really in no rush, which makes me appeal to people beyond their typical situations and such, but those people never seem to know what hits them when and where, and I like a person who knows how to treat rattlesnake wounds. A girl being tough as nails...yes please!!

I will threaten to kill, and then convert, anyone who tries to mess with me, and I have the means to do both....it's a matter of choice and recognition.
 
StrutterGear said:
Trust me 99.99% of the badboys I know are not rebels against society, they are just cunts. I think a bad boy in the UK has a different meaning than what it does wherever you're from :P
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Ahh.... From the UK?
I guess it might be a lot different there than America. There is a pun in America that keeps passing down from previous generations about the idealism of the British being "too polite"
I'm not sure where it came from.

But nonetheless, I will show you what a UK badboy looks like from an American point of view.
You can immediately notice their character traits based on how they present themselves.


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