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Is the Best Way to Flip?

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Chip Williams

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We are looking at some very high quality MDA (Tested several times) for a holiday party coming up, and were surprised to have landed some LSD trips of good repute.

Current plan is to take the 2 each MDA dose early, play and blast out to some special mixes built by us just for this event.

Then at drop plus 3 hours we introduce the acid so we can catch the back half of the MDA intensity with 3 squares each, and meld those images into the longer trip to come.

Note this is all happening in a very safe home with some very experienced people. Set and setting will be awesome.

Any thoughts on this flip? Personally, this has been my favorite way to get the best of both peaks with some help between the two to make it amazing...

Chip
 
Question! Is it common to throw up on MDA? My friend has twice, it's made him quite nauseous. Both times from the same batch. Perhaps it's contaminated/cut with gross throwuppy material? Or is that just how MDA likes to play?
 
Personally, I'd take the acid first, I definitely would not want to be feeling an MDA comedown while I'm peaking on LSD. But if you've done it before and like it, go for it.
 
Take the acid first and drop the MDA at the 4 hour mark. That seems to be the magic sweet synergizing spot for candyflipping.
 
I'm pretty sure no one has ever done it this way!;) I never worry about comedowns or anything but even I wouldn't want to schedule taking MDA than LSD(I think I once did it on a whim but...). MDA is more brutal on the body than MDMA in my experience as well. I would take the LSD and at T-3 or T-4 dose the MDA. Everyone else who agreed who this knows, its just the best way to flip.
 
I've always had the best experiences / "bang for the buck" adding the empathogen on top of the psychedelic. I'll usually wait until the acid peak clears to start really rolling (though I'll finger-dip the whole time incl before the acid takes effect).
 
Don't flip LSD and MDA is my advice. MDA is too much of a messy pseudo-psychdelic on it's own. Not quite easy on the body either.

If you had some MDMA well, that mixes nice with LSD if you just want to party and not care about the depth of the trip.

MDA is too speedy with a long comedown I'm just saying think twice about your plans. Good score on all those drugs, I'm sure, but you don't have to do them all at once for the best effect.

If you are flippin MDA and LSD I'd suggest some benzos at hand at least. And go easy on the MDA.

But yeah if you're goin for it time it like Tranced said. Just like that. peace

Don't push yourself too far on NYE dont wanna end up in the ER my friend!
 
RhythmSpring said:
Is it common to throw up on MDA? My friend has twice, it's made him quite nauseous.
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It's messed up my stomach the few times I've used it. I don't think I ever puked but remember some bad nausea.

I also add another vote for acid first. Acid always works best when you have not used other psychedelics before it. 4 hours is a long wait too... your acid will have long peaked by the time your MDA begins to hit @ approx. 5 hours in. Why even do them in the same night if you aren't going to go for a better synergism window?

You realize the LSD is just going to weaken the maximum response you could get from the MDA by causing serotonin receptors to internalize and be less abundant to begin with, so you're not really going to get "the best of both worlds." You'll get something like the best of the acid and half of the best of MDA.

So I say shoot for synergism instead of trying to get individual peaks. In all likelihood you will have just as long of a trip anyways because you will go to a higher place if you get the synergism right.
 
MDA at 4 hours? Are you people crazy? Your trip is like already half way over you will barely even flip, thats more like taking LSD, then taking MDA. Not the two together.

I would take the LSD with either say 100mgs of MDA at the same time, then another 50mgs of it an hour or so later, or take the LSD, then a big ass dose of MDA an hour or two in
 
Folley said:
MDA at 4 hours? Are you people crazy? Your trip is like already half way over you will barely even flip, thats more like taking LSD, then taking MDA. Not the two together.
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Lol I'm talking T+4 as are most people probably. That means the time from ingesting the LSD and onward. So that includes the come up/etc. I never really enjoyed taking the MDxx before or with the substance, I will occasionally dose it at T+45 mins though, so right about when the LSD is kicking in, that way right when the LSD starts peaking those sexy waves of MDxx are hitting simultaneously. Timing the launches and crescendo the peaks. Timing is key, IMO. So say if it was 2c-e instead you would take the MDxx at T+1h 30/45.
 
Thanks for the suggestions.

Typically, the MDx drop ahead of the acid takes the horrible edge off of the come up for me, putting me in a great spot to experience the images and thoughts etc. However. I must admit that going the other way (Acid first, MDx 2 or 3 hours in) makes for a much shorter but way more intense night.

Never had a prob with MDMA and Acid...however we dropped an MDA pill then 6g of shrooms 45 mins in. Still stands as my all-time record for length of experience off of the timeline.

Anyway, and this is prob my most important question...what could the MDA do early that could negatively affect the Acid experience later?

Thanks again for the info

Chip
 
Chip Williams said:
Anyway, and this is prob my most important question...what could the MDA do early that could negatively affect the Acid experience later?
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MDA is a serotonin receptor agonist and will cause serotonin receptors to downregulate. LSD, which is also a serotonin receptor agonist, really doesn't work that well- sometimes not at all even, if your serotonin receptors have already been tampered with by other drugs.

Pretty much any psychedelic drug that is a serotonin receptor agonist shares this effect, but LSD is particularly sensitive to it, more sensitive than other psychedelics. So the wise always go acid first because if you don't you will lose a lot of its potency.
 
I'd go with acid first as well, but I'd probably take the mda 60-90 minutes after. or just after the lsd establishes itself. when i combine things I've found it's usually best to wait til one gets going or i just end up with a generic drugfucked feeling. ymmv though. and have fun! sounds like a good time regardless :)
 
Well after much discussion we are going to go MDA first and let that lead into the cid a couple of hours in. There is a new tripper in our group, and the drift into the cid should eliminate the panic/anxiety that could sneak in. Even if that does dull the cid a little, the idea is we'll get a great comedown out of the cid at least and possibly get to roll and trip in the same night (if everything works OK).

Will let you know how it goes!

Chip
 
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