Some basic questions about LSD

[Rio Fantastic]

It will be my first time trying LSD tomorrow. I'm pretty excited and just a little nervous, and I have some pretty basic questions about it.

1. The tabs are meant to be 180ug each. What would be a good dose for someone's first time?
2. How does redosing on LSD work?? Is there a window if time you have to redose in before it's less effective, or can you just prolong the trip whenever?
3. How does smoking weed on LSD effect the experience? Also would smoking copious amounts of weed the day before the trip cloud it or anything like that?

 

[Pjkt2501]

Have a blast dude! I shall be tripping today as well.

1) That's a very good dose! If you're prone to anxiety, start with half of it, see how you like it, and then eat the other. 90ug is a relatively standard dose for US tabs.
2) I'd say you can re-dose for several hours. You'll feel the peak from the tab if you dose like 2 hours apart (there will be an initial wave, lull, then a second wave; very nice in my experiences: but not as strong had you taken it all at once).
3)Smoke all you can. REALLY makes the colors and visuals POP. Smoking beforehand doesn't have as much as an effect as smoking while immersed in the experience.

Peace and enjoy! Keep a smile on your face!

Worst case, the best buffer is something like xanax or klonopin.

 

[effie]

I'll scoot this over to Psychedelic Drugs for you

BDD > PD

 

[Ismene]

1. The tabs are meant to be 180ug each. What would be a good dose for someone's first time?

Hard to tell you a good dose for your first time. It depends how much you enjoy it, which you'll only learn by experimentation.

2. How does redosing on LSD work??

It doesn't. It's pretty much a waste of time - always take the correct dose straightaway. Redosing doesn't bring back any psychedelic effects it just makes you stay awake on the comedown for even longer.

 

[LucidShroomDmtier]

i agree with the above and first time dont smoke anything take a tab in the wilderness with some good company and enjoy the godprint .

redosing dont do a thing as you need the quadraamount too expirience the same effects unadvisable and why redosing anyway the exp is long enough

you can make better expiriences by setting a good "set and setting"(mental preparation and place)

also by having a good meal 3 h before (very nutrietient good meal ) as triping requieres huge amount of energy to burn i always stop triping when i get hungry thts why i have royal juice it gets me triping again

smoking can get you confused (swim got some badtrips cause of weed ) but it also fires the trip good so- feel the medium

 

[Efoj]

I've known people who had all kinds of experiences when smoking weed on lsd, from total bliss, to mild visual effects, to anxiety/bad trips.

I'd recommend you to use just LSD on your first experience and leave the weed for when you get more experienced.

 

[rincewindrocks]

nah, if you redose within the first 2 hours (ie before the end of the peak) you can get a 2nd wave...beyond that its not worth it. but i have definitely been able to sustain/get a 2nd peak before.

 

[thoughtsUnThought]

not tryin to spark too much controversy...especially because i tend to be super sensitive to low-doses of psychedelics and i may even metabolize some things differently to some degree...

But, i swear re-dosing for me is definitely more than useless. now, i can see that there's a certain degree of 'dragging it out' if you take a low dose at the tail end of a trip..its not very common for me to surpass my first peak. Though, without a doubt, i can think of a bunch of times through the years which i ate a second single hit around hour 6-8 or a trip, and definitely came back on hard and tripped balls. i understand this is not commonly experienced by you guys, but i must say..it works for me..!

 

[Sepher]

Redosing for me once the first hit had peaked was usually a waste of time. It may have added a little intensity, but not nearly as much as you'd expect having just doubled up on your starting dose. If I was unfamiliar with the type of acid we'd got hold of I'd do one tab, wait an hour for it to come up so as to gauge how potent I thought it was gonna be, and either redose there or leave it at that. For tabs I was used to handling I'd just double or triple drop right from the off and have done with it.

Rio, 180ug is bloody good. The renowned 1960s Owsley stuff was around 250-270ug I think, and deemed to be some of the best ever made. Quick google says acid tested in recent years has been as low as 50-60ug, 100ug being typical. It does depend how well it's made I think as well as dose. You'd think LSD is LSD is LSD but back in the day different acids could be enormously different not just in strength, but in the subjective character of the trip. Strawberries were sunshiney, giggly, sociable fluff, Purple Oms we're seriously intense with a deep, dark introspective character all of their own, and my favourites. Black microdots were seriously strong and different in character again. Never quite understood how they could be so different even allowing for variations in strength cos I used to dose high regardless.

We always used to smoke A LOT of draw on it. It was all resin back in the day, soft pakistani black, hard moroccan, red and black Leb. It can help bring the intensity of the visuals up, and used to send me deep down into closed eyes introspection, but at the expense of added confusion, paranoia and anxiety at times. We didn't know any better I guess, but these days I'd keep off the weed. Maybe at the very end of the trip to help with the comedown, but I'd want decent acid to be untainted by other perhaps contradictory drug effects so as to keep it as pure as possible. Think you'd get more from it in it's pure state if you're looking to explore your inner self and see what you can do with the acid as you steer it around the corners of your mind.

[EDIT]Realise I've probably come a little too late to this thread cos Rio will either be in orbit as we speak, or making preparations for re-entry. Ah, wtf. Jealous big-time. First time ever on decent strength acid, everything you experience being a constant source of wonder and delight. What's not to love?[/EDIT]

 

[Sublimo]

1. The tabs are meant to be 180ug each. What would be a good dose for someone's first time?

I would advice a 100 mics.

2. How does redosing on LSD work?? Is there a window if time you have to redose in before it's less effective, or can you just prolong the trip whenever?

Normally I redose 1-2 ours after I took my first blotter. But it only prolongs the trip.

3. How does smoking weed on LSD effect the experience? Also would smoking copious amounts of weed the day before the trip cloud it or anything like that?

Smoking weed has an high influence on your trip, it's makes it a lot stronger. Blowing the day the before isn't any problem. But if you decided to smoke during you trip,be carefull. I woud'nt advise it at the first time.

 

[humblegro]

If you are tripping hard and you have herb you may be tempted to smoke. Will you be able to? My motor skills get impaired to where I can't prepare a bowl or anything. I roll blunts pre trip, but I swear I can never light them. Towards 6 hour of the trip smoking is a pleasure. Smoking can intensify visuals when smoked near peak possibly.

 

[Sepher]

^ it wasn't that the dexterity required to roll a spliff was lacking, it was having to skin up what looked like shit loads of little, insecty-lizardy things climbing all over the place trying to get out of the rizlas before I took a lighter to 'em that made it hard, trying to keep the tobacco and gange in with insecty-lizards throwing it all over the place. Swear they even popped and crackled as I inhaled. Ha, evil little, insecty-lizardy things, how you like them apples, eh? Does it burn, ooh, ooh, does it, while you pop and spit and crack. Shouldn't have tried to freak me out on acid then when all i wanted was to be left to roll a joint in peace, shouldya, hmmmmm? Stupid lizards.

 

[TangerinO]

As far as re-dosing goes, you want to get it on around the second or third hour. Basically you want it to get kicking in before the plateau starts falling, from what I understand you just rise to "the next level" so to speak when you re-dose this way.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/images/duration_chart_lsd.gif - tried to embed did not work

You go up, you plateau and then you go up again and it all happens again, like going up a literal step. The thing about is, is the tolerance aspect, after the LSD has worn off you need double the amount you took to get back there again, but if you redose before you come down, so like I said 2 - 3 hours I absolutely guarantee you, you will keep going up and might even take you seriously by surprise. I had a friend who recently pushed himself a little too far from too hastily redoing, I believe he did so about 2 hours in, and funnily enough it was exactly the same dose as you have OP.
90 first up and then another 90. He was fucking gone, and actually forgot who he was. Don't let it deter you though, everyone is totally different but I always suggest to start low, just to be safe.

Happy tripping man