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Newcomer to the site. Questions/Support for quitting Opana. PLZ HELP.

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JMAN914

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Hi all. Like the title says im a newcomer here. Im looking for some information and support cause I have been reading others post and see all the knowledge and support you guys have on here. Little bit about myself. Im 21 years old, I started abusing percocets about a year ago that progressed into roxys which I
began snorting cause orally was not doing the job anymore, I wanna say for the past 2 months I have been abusing opanas. Last Christmas eve my father got diagnosed with cancer and he just passed in August. I know its not an excuse but he was my best friend. I lost control going through this. Im up too about 2 opanas a day (80mg total) and I withdrew for my first time last week and it was horrific. Im aware that it is a problem an I need to stop. I am scarred of
going through withdrawl. To make it worse my gf is addicted with me and were going to stop together. Im disgusted with myself, and its time to stop. My
mother does not know nor do i want her to find out. I have a friend that gave me four 8mg suboxone. What else would I need to get through this? What
should I expect ? How long till I feel normal ? Any input/advise is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advanced guys & God bless.
 
JMAN914 said:
Hi all. Like the title says im a newcomer here. Im looking for some information and support cause I have been reading others post and see all the knowledge and support you guys have on here. Little bit about myself. Im 21 years old, I started abusing percocets about a year ago that progressed into roxys which I
began snorting cause orally was not doing the job anymore, I wanna say for the past 2 months I have been abusing opanas. Last Christmas eve my father got diagnosed with cancer and he just passed in August. I know its not an excuse but he was my best friend. I lost control going through this. Im up too about 2 opanas a day (80mg total) and I withdrew for my first time last week and it was horrific. Im aware that it is a problem an I need to stop. I am scarred of
going through withdrawl. To make it worse my gf is addicted with me and were going to stop together. Im disgusted with myself, and its time to stop. My
mother does not know nor do i want her to find out. I have a friend that gave me four 8mg suboxone. What else would I need to get through this? What
should I expect ? How long till I feel normal ? Any input/advise is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advanced guys & God bless.
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Okay, I'm going to say this first of all this is what EXACTLY happened to me except my habbit was about 6 months. Me and my girlfriend both where addicted to them and when we didnt get anything we were depressed, annoyed, verbaly abusive, and just felt like shit. We would get all lovey dovey once we got out fix and everything seemed great again! But then the next day comes and were back to square one... Do yourself a favore, please stop before you get worse. Do not let this drug controle you more than it already has. The w/d are the worst for anything! I'd rather go through and oxy widthdrawal, then to go through an Opana widthdrawal anyday! If you can get some suboxone, get some of thoes! Cut into peices and start off slow until you start to feel release with a certain amount. Really, try to get suboxone, it help'd us out so much! We would also get weed to kinda just chill out nerves out. My girlfriend and I are not drinkers so we usually dont drink only do pills. But we recently slowed down after we both took controle of our Opana problem. Now we are slowly getting back to out old selfs and it feels great!

You are not alone, funny thing is that I too am 21. If I can do it, you can do it man, just dont let a pill controle you. Be more powerfull than your will-power. Take controle of this issue and grab the bull by the horns. Support each other. Go out to dinners on that friday night, make a day to go to the movies on a sat and just support eachother and you will get through this ordeal. If you have any questions, please PM me or just type back to me in your topic.

Stay strong, there are more out there worst than you. Get controle and just do it.


OctoberRust12
 
Opana wd's are pretty serious, but those 4 8mg suboxone are going to help alot.

Stop cold-turkey and get rid of all your Opana. Withdraw for 24 hours with no opiates, then you should be good to take suboxone. You should start with 2mg, and if you need, 2mg more. Most people take way more suboxone than they need to. Then do a fast taper off, just taking as little as you possibly can until you take none.

It's really not that bad. You can do it.
 
^^^ excellent advise. Could you get any support with counselling, na etc? You suffered from a huge mental trauma and it is more than understandable that you turned to drugs for comfort, it is human nature to seek comfort from anything when you are in so much pain.

Pain can be devastating and extremely detrimental to your physical and mental health. Get to a dr for psychiatric meds BEFORE you start your reduction as this will help. I also suggest counselling for your grief and mental well being. You cannot rely solely on your gf and vice versa, it is too much for either of you to deal with and could seriously affecttour relationship.

Use this place to support you, vent, cry scream and rage. We can deal with it much better than you taking it outnon your loved ones. Tell your mum and dr you can't cope with the death of your father, no need to mention drugs until you feel comfortable. But I must admit the support and relief you will feel if you tell them will help. DO NOT FEEL GUILTY, you are young and have lost your role model, best friend, carer and advisor. It is completely natural.

Try using the grief thread, and also the guilt thread. There are alot of people on there in your boat.

Exercise, eat well, get good sleep hygiene, meditate and do as many hobbies that interest you thatyou physically can once you are over the worst of it.

You are in my thoughts and prayers, you can do this!
 
Hi Jman,

Welcome! I'm really sorry to hear about your dad. I don't know if you feel like it at this point but it sometimes helps to talk about the person you have lost. We have a grief and bereavement thread here in TDS that is for those of us that have lost someone important to us. It is a place can come together and offer support, vent feelings and get support.

It's great that you have decided to do this. Don't let the anticipation of how bad it is going to be become overwhelming in your mind. Take it one step at a time. Are you and your girlfriend not together anymore? I only ask because you said we "were" (past tense) going to do this together. I hope that you can give support to her and she to you but, if not, what other support do you have lined up?

Keep us posted. You are still grieving the loss of your dad and maybe even getting some support for that through Hospice could be good for your overall well-being. The holidays can be very hard and stressful when you have lost a family member. Take good care of yourself.<3
 
Hey man. Funny coincidence but I'm 22 and just posted about the same thing. Oxy for a long time, relapsed in seotember been using for 3 months since I was clean (clean for 4 months, addicted to oxy for 1.5yrs before that)

Im in similar shoes- switched from oxy to opana 1 month ago snd I'm up to 200 mg of opana sniffed a day.
Here's my advice as I have withdrawn from more times than I can count...and btw my mom doesn't know I relapsed and I live with her so my method (quitting tomorrow) factors that in

I have subs, Xanax Valium and soma. Get whatever u can in terms of benzos/muscle relaxers on top of the subs... Take your last dose in the morning- that way u function through the day around ur mom and won't start feeling bad until is bedtime. 12 hrs after your last dose knock yourself out for the night with Xanax/whatever benzos and MR's. That way when you wake up you can almost take your sub... Wait at LEAST!!!,! 24 hours and then dose 1-2mg on the sub and see how u feel. If u feel better within 30-45 don't take any more and use that dose and taper for a week.

If you have never used suboxone before- make sure u wait before taking it. Read about precipitated withdrawals, basically if u take sub while u have opiates in your system you go into Immediate WITHDRAWALS x10. First hand- its the worst experience ever like crying in a ball on the floor

As I said Im quitting the opana tomorrow and I will probably wait 24-30 hrs before taking sub cause once you've gne into precips, suboxone scares the shit out of u lol

If you can't get any Xanax or benzos or whatever just suck it up for 24 hrs it will be bad but not as bad as Cold turkeying for weeks. I went cold off 500mg of oxy and it was 3 weeks of hell. The suboxone will make you feel fine but taper it and don't stay on for more than 10 days, constantly decreasing dosage

Try and get this while u can dude. I'm 22 and got into Perc/oxy 2 years ago and I'm from an upper class white suburban neighborhood where no one is an addict. My fam was TORN by finding out and me going to rehab. If u can get this now u don't have to put anyone through that. Trust me that's the route to take lol. Good luck and hit me up if you need advice or wanna see how I'm holding up when I stop tomorrow. I'm new to BL also but check out my thread too I'll post updates its somewhere in the dark side section
 
First off i want to say thank you to everybody for the fast responces. I know i can pull through this and im sure its goin to suck for lack of better words. I can prob get my
hands on a few more suboxone if i need i have a couple friends that have recently gotten off opiates and i talk to them often if i need any help or advice and im sure i can get some subs off them if i need to. Octoberrust, im not a big drinker myself. I used to smoke pot but want to keep it out of my system as I plan to become a Firefighter and have written exams coming up soon and want to get and stay clean for the physical as well. Herbavor, My gf and I are currently going through some tough times together however we are trying to work things out. As far as support i mentioned i have a couple friend which have just gotten off opiates and are local so i can council with them and my best friend is a great kid who has never touched a drug in his life and I am very fortinate to have him around because I know he will be here for me and support me 100%. He knew when i was messing around with percocet, but he doesnt know what it has developed into.. Doomed2pain, I do eat well keep a pretty clean
diet for the most part, drink plenty of water and do exercise often (not as often as i used to)but sleep is one thing that i have always had trouble getting and pills have usually helped me become tired and fall asleep. Sleep is a major concern of mine. You guys do give me the confidence and make me feel better about my situation.
 
JMAN914

I"m also new to the site and also on Opana but have been on a much higher dose than you and for much longer. I'm not going to blow smoke up your ass, the few times I've run out of Opana (and I'm only using then orally) was like landing in some low level of hell. You will start off by feeling cold, have heavy feet, probably teary and/or have a major runny nose and from there it's all downhill, for a while. Every source I've researched and every anecdotal bit of evidence I've found says Opana detox, physical at least, lasts 5-7 days with some people still having physical issues well over a week - a few people indicate they are still having issues months later and while they are few and far between they are out there. Psychologically there is no telling as everyone is different, deals with addiction/loss differently.

Next will come a heavy-feet feeling, no energy at all and severe joint/muscle pain, diarrhea, vomiting and stomach upset are not uncommon. Psychologically you may feel anxious, depressed, withdrawn, angry, upset, raging - sometimes, all at the same time. The longest I've made it without the help of Suboxone or other drugs used to help detox, has been three days. I don't feel I'm an exceptionally weak person, physically or mentally, but that's all I could take before breaking down and either going to the ER or filling my prescription. I'm not trying to scare you but I do want you to know how bad Opana w/d's can be. I hope you don't read this and decide to not get off them though, in fact the longer you are on them the harder, more intense and more difficult it will become to stop.

As for having Suboxone, yes it will help but do not make the mistake of taking them all at the beginning or at the first signs of w/d's. Wait until you are really hard into detox and begin taking small doses. See what is the absolutely smallest dosage, spaced out for an hour in between, for you to get relief. If you can possibly get more Sub's, do it. If things get real bad and you are out of Sub's and still in heavy w/d's an ER doc will help you. I know you do not want your mother to learn of your Opana use but as a last resort go for their help. It's pretty much a given, if you continue using she and others will find out - think of it that way. Drug use and/or detox isn't easy at all to hide. (getting off my mom bandwagon now but honestly, i'd rather find out my son was in the ER trying to get help to quit then in the ER with an OD)

There is very good information on BL for other ways to help with Opana W/D through both drug and natural measures. Get to the search engine and look for OPana Detox - quite a few of the suggestions have helped me over the last year when I've been forced into detox - they will help you too. The main thing is to know what you are about to face, get ready for it the best way possible and then do it. The fear of Opana detox should not stop you from quitting!

Keep posting and let us know how you are doing or if you just need support. Fingers crossed for you!
 
^Great post, Enigmatic! People like you taking the time to share experience and encourage like this is what makes TDS so powerful.

@Jman--how is it going?
 
Hey guys, Again I appreciate the info. That last post was intense and actually scared me a bit. I had a rough night last night. I took a small nap and woke up with such a
headache, I ate a little something then continued to lie down. I ran into my bathroom and threw up at least 5 times. I then showered had some chamomile tea and lied down, headache never went away, matter fact i even woke up this morning with a slight headache and still have one. My dosage with the OP im not increasing but keeping it the same (im not even getting high from it) I dont want to increase my dosage. And I have gone through withdrawl before a couple weeks ago. Runny nose like crazy,
freezing then sweating gaging but didnt vomit. To top it all off i was at work. Im a waiter/bartender. I had a friend covering me while i spent most my time in the bathroom and it was absolutely AWFUL. Rite now i take about 20mg when I wake up, 10-15mg midway through the day, then 20-30mg at night. I wouldnt consider myself "heavy" abuser but reguardless its a problem that needs to stop. I have reviews all this week then finals next week so i planned on stopping after Christmas/New Years cause I
need to focus and pass my classes and final exams. Like i mentioned i can get my hands on a couple more subs and some xanax as well.
 
I honestly didn't mean to scare you but to give you a no-bullshit idea of what it's like, do not let the fear of having week of really bad days keep you from quitting. One thing about Opana is it's ability to quickly and drastically increase tolerance. The dosage you are currently one, which isn't getting you high but is simply keeping you normal, will not be enough later on. Then you'll be faced with making a decision - either increase your dosage and continue on with addiction or get off Opana completely.

Great you can get some Xanax! During one very bad time for me, when a friend of my step-son's stole two weeks of opana, I was put on Xanax to help with the symptoms and it REALLY helped with sleep, anxiety, blood pressure/heart racing and generally made life bearable. For me at least, it helped with the incredible RLS I get during detox, I don't hear many others say the same so YMMV. Sub though works very well for the physical symptoms. With both and good support you will be able to kick these.

Tylenol for headaches and body aches helps as does taking Imodium for your stomach. Sipping hot herbal tea is also great to help calm you and to help keep you hydrated. Use Xanax and Sub's as needed. Baby yourself and your body as needed. Hot baths, tea, staying in bed all day if needed; do what you need to do to help yourself.

I currently am prescribed and take orally 480mg of Opana ER a day (6-40mg twice a day) have been on them for four years now and have a good two decades of age on you. If I can detox off of that level, you can do it! Great idea to wait until your exams are finished and you can do this over a week when you can clear your schedule, that will make your life so much easier. That you managed to work as a bartender while in detox is something I'd never be able to do and should show you how strong you really are!

Let us know how you are doing.
 
I'm 22 and went through the same WD you're going through last Summer. I was abusing Opanas for about 2 months, and got to the point of snorting anywhere from 60-100mg daily. My Opana addiction proceeded heroin addiction and addiction to pretty much every opiate out there. I've also went through WD's of almost all the common opiates, including Suboxone.

Not to dishearten you, but Opana WD was the most intense in terms of the acute phase. But it wasn't the worst WD, because it seemed to be a shorter process than heroin or oxycodone. I for one prefer a more intense, but quicker WD than a milder, yet protracted WD. From my experience with Opana, after a week, most of the physical symptoms will be gone and/or can be alleviated with a 12-16mg dose of lopermaide (Immodium).

I would first do a quick taper with the Opana, only take as much as you need to "maintain," but not get high. Drop your daily dose of Opana more and more, but try to avoid getting sick. By doing this, you'll begin to mentally adjust to not getting high on a daily basis, without going through the acute WD's. After this short taper, wait at least 12 hours, ideally 24 hours before beginning suboxone. You don't want to experience precipitated WD's from subs.

Try 1 or 2mg of Subs, and work your way up until you've become relatively comfortable, don't try to get high from the subs. 2-4mg daily should do the trick. Take the subs for 3-4 days, a week at most. You could try Tapering down from the subs over this period to 1 or .5mg daily. By taking subs for less than a week you'll have a much less intense WD experience, without lengthening the process by becoming dependent on Suboxone.

This is based on personal experience, not hard research. But, after coming off Opana with and w/o Suboxone, I feel the strategy is valid. Also, tapering off Opana before Suboxone isn't necessary, but it helped for me. Regardless, be safe and wait a FULL 24 HOURS before switching from Opana to Subs.
 
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