How old is EADD? (Older and wiser than the rest of BL!)

[gannetsarewe]

Well that intrigues me gannetsarewe... 'irk' isnt a word I'd expect to see a lower class person using.
Were you well educated or did you catch up in a prison. Perhaps you went to one of those polytechnics?

I'm certainly not middle class. My family are old money.

As soon as I post you make me small,
I should have used vex bug or gall,
Your are a pain in the arse and know nothing at all,
A middle class snob is something to be.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

The thing is Gannetsarewe if you read YPDH next posts you would see that she was winding you up for "sport".

And YPDH we have more in common than you may like to think. I have class issues of my own, as i guess everyone does in this country, i'm working class, my grandad was a miner, my step dad a builder. I like to think that I'm educated and am proud of it, i was the first in my family to go to Uni, i met up with all the public school snobs at Uni too having been through a comprehensive school beforehand.

I have nothing against "dissent", and would not consider anyone here to be "riff raff" either. No i dont like rude, ignorant, "yobs", but who does ? Does that make me a working class snob ? Well sorry if it does. I havent encountered any "yobs" on here.

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

Im sorry actually gannet I thought afterwards that post was a bit out of order. You were saying you thought it was
a bit click in here and that might have made you feel a bit silly or something. I didnt mean it. * hugs *

I'm not a middle class snob though..8) ** Slapp **

 

[Bluebell]

Im sorry actually gannet I thought afterwards that post was a bit out of order. You were saying you thought it was
a bit click in here and that might have made you feel a bit silly or something. I didnt mean it. * hugs *

I'm not a middle class snob though..8) ** Slapp **

I dont know how any one doesn't see you as the funny lady that you are! Humour is lost on some folk

 

[Allein]

I don't think the UK scene was ever that shit!

He was talking about the American scene, the UK scene in the 90's was proper fekin 'ardcore if you went to the right places, I can't comment on today's scene very much but I can say the free parties aren't as big or made up of such a tight community as they once were.

The 90's for me was all dirty warehouses and fields and banging music with proper drugs and little in the way of attitude or division regardless of race creed what you wore etc etc

Just to illustrate:-

American:-

(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone Monkees


UK version:-

Sex Pistols-Stepping Stone

sums it up for me

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

The thing is Gannetsarewe if you read YPDH next posts you would see that she was winding you up for "sport".

And YPDH we have more in common than you may like to think. I have class issues of my own, as i guess everyone does in this country, i'm working class, my grandad was a miner, my step dad a builder. I like to think that I'm educated and am proud of it, i was the first in my family to go to Uni, i met up with all the public school snobs at Uni too having been through a comprehensive school beforehand.

I have nothing against "dissent", and would not consider anyone here to be "riff raff" either. No i dont like rude, ignorant, "yobs", but who does ? Does that make me a working class snob ? Well sorry if it does. I havent encountered any "yobs" on here.

I was the first to go to university too and it was reeealy posh. I bet your family were proud. Mine were. My parents told everyone. They havnt been quite so proud of some of the things Ive done since though but I wont go into such things in such, unriffraffy, polite company. :D

Hello bluey. Thanks for saying that babe :D I dont mean to upset anyone.. but can maybe be a bit tactless at times.

 

[Arnold]

Jesus, just a few hours ago everyone was on about how pleasant it is in EADD, with everyone getting on so well, apparently because of the more mature age bracket.

Wait till a 'police brutality' thread pops up or the commies go all feminist and shit like that innit

 

[charlie clean]

The thing is Gannetsarewe if you read YPDH next posts you would see that she was winding you up for "sport".

And YPDH we have more in common than you may like to think. I have class issues of my own, as i guess everyone does in this country, i'm working class, my grandad was a miner, my step dad a builder. I like to think that I'm educated and am proud of it, i was the first in my family to go to Uni, i met up with all the public school snobs at Uni too having been through a comprehensive school beforehand.

I have nothing against "dissent", and would not consider anyone here to be "riff raff" either. No i dont like rude, ignorant, "yobs", but who does ? Does that make me a working class snob ? Well sorry if it does. I havent encountered any "yobs" on here.

I think Gannetsarecrewe does the humorous wind-up better than any of the classfree heroes..but that's just me being snobbish.

 

[Allein]

I don't mean to upset anyone.. but can maybe be a bit tactless at times.

Think we can pretty much all say that one, I never mean to but sometimes the arse-hole side of me crawls out from under its slimy rock and before you know it I've gone off on one about nothing of any real consequence....but then I don't have the advantage of a university education

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

calling me an arsehole?

 

[Allein]

^^^^ Pffft

Nice try Ms Yellow, but I think we are getting acquainted and I'm getting your style...likin it too:D

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

Think we can pretty much all say that one, I never mean to but sometimes the arse-hole side of me crawls out from under its slimy rock and before you know it I've gone off on one about nothing of any real consequence....but then I don't have the advantage of a university education

Yeah well from what Ive seen ATM dont go changin

 

[gannetsarewe]

Paul Bowles was a Tangier institution; he could never understand why Burroughs and the rest preferred to live in the U.S. A hopeful Moroccan would stand on the corner of the street he lived and offer to show tourists the great man's house.for 2 dirhams or a personal introduction for 20; I don't think there was a lot of money around the household. There was some complex story about his wife, the maid and lesbian sorcery, the lot of them were as bent as nine bob notes and, in an old-fashioned way, as decadent as they come. He was as old as the hills when I was there...at his best, he's a terrific writer.

There is a wonderful evoccation of 1950's Tangiers in Literary Outlaw, the Burroughs Biog by Ted Morgan, Morgans friend Paul Theroux recounts a Kif smoking session with a very infirm and soon to die Bowles in his The Pillars of Hercules.

 

[charlie clean]

All that stuff is maybe a bit romanticised. Paul and Jane Bowles were both fully accepted by Tangerines but Burroughs certainly wasn't. He was literally stoned out of at least one residence in the Casbah and had a bit of a bad name for plying street urchins with whisky, ostensibly to hear their hustler stories. The international days are long gone but the geography of both Medina and Casbah change so little you can see where once the specialist brothels and other centres of intrigue stood and imagine what it was like then. Visit certain of the upmarket cafes at the right time today and you can still see the major players, including senior police figures, about their discreet business in the back booths; if you're in town longer than 48 hours, they'll know more about you than you do yourself. In the villas out toward Cap Spartel you can still find the descendants of legendary - usually for their decadence - European settlers and the remnants of the Barbara Hutton set. What changes, changes for the worse, someone recently wrote me, but no political decree can change the habits of centuries and the spirit of place remains. A great town in which to pass the winter. Especially if you've the blues, Gannets.

 

[gannetsarewe]

All that stuff is maybe a bit romanticised. Paul and Jane Bowles were both fully accepted by Tangerines but Burroughs certainly wasn't. He was literally stoned out of at least one residence in the Casbah and had a bit of a bad name for plying street urchins with whisky, ostensibly to hear their hustler stories. The international days are long gone but the geography of both Medina and Casbah change so little you can see where once the specialist brothels and other centres of intrigue stood and imagine what it was like then. Visit certain of the upmarket cafes at the right time today and you can still see the major players, including senior police figures, about their discreet business in the back booths; if you're in town longer than 48 hours, they'll know more about you than you do yourself. In the villas out toward Cap Spartel you can still find the descendants of legendary - usually for their decadence - European settlers and the remnants of the Barbara Hutton set. What changes, changes for the worse, someone recently wrote me, but no political decree can change the habits of centuries and the spirit of place remains. A great town in which to pass the winter. Especially if you've the blues, Gannets.

A Tangerine dream works for me, I need to get out of this damp and miserable place for few months but I have issues keeping me here. I have a two year old daughter, would it be suitable for her, my interest in drugs are mostly historical now.

 

[Mailmonkey]

Not sure for a two year old, i've spent a bit of time in Tangiers, not for a while mind, but I love the dilapidated seediness of the place.

 

[charlie clean]

She's probably have the time of her life with the homegrown urchins, you won't have to worry about her running into the street and being hit by a bus in the narrow streets of the Casbah and Medina where the youngsters play from dawn till dusk. Plenty of European sprogs around nowadays as well and, if you want her fluent in Moroccan Arabic complete with Tangier slang, the younger she is the easier it'll be. Can also make life a lot better for you; when waiters, hotel clerks and shopkeepers hear rhe young one chatting away in their own tongue you go up in their esteem and the prices go down dramatically...I managed three free weeks in a top-of-the-range Agadir hotel once simply because the staff were charmed by the 4 year old, wouldn't happen at a Travel Lodge. I would think twice, though, if she's blond haired and blue eyed; racism isn't an exclusively Caucasian affliction.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

I managed three free weeks in a top-of-the-range Agadir hotel

Which saved you all of £1.30.

Only place I've stayed 5 star - purely because it was £13 a night. Didn't think much of the barbed wire fence for the private beach. Didn't think much of Agadir, largely because a guy threatened to kill me for not buying a second lot of dope.

Morocco is all about the villages in the mountains. Safer. More beautiful.

Anyone been to Tangier and not been mugged?

 

[jancrow]

I really want to go back to Morocco. I was looking into Marrakech as potentially the place to stay for my first holiday in three years because it's so cheap to stay in a plush hotel there but practically every report I read states that it's a dangerous, horrible shit hole. And not just those written by Yanks. Shame, rural Morocco is gorgeous and full of friendly people.

 

[Mailmonkey]

Which saved you all of £1.30.

Only place I've stayed 5 star - purely because it was £13 a night. Didn't think much of the barbed wire fence for the private beach. Didn't think much of Agadir, largely because a guy threatened to kill me for not buying a second lot of dope.

Morocco is all about the villages in the mountains. Safer. More beautiful.

Anyone been to Tangier and not been mugged?

Hahahhaa, not been mugged in Tangiers, had numerous characters following me about after selling me hash, trying to get me lost in the Casbah, threatening to report me to the authorities after they'd sold me shit etc, plenty of attempted scams, but not mugged.....After you've been there a bit you know the fucking scams, they are all the same variations on one or two tricks.

I love the mountains, and the villages, as you say SHM much nicer, relaxed, beautiful places, but there is still something about the seediness of Tangiers particularly that I love, reminded me a bit of Havana the dilapidated buildings and fading colonial architecture....

Never been to Agadir.