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3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone
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I am researching this now and considering using it as a replacement for 4mmc. I see people's dosages and have decided I must be completely fucking insane with the quantities I take orally (600-800mg a dose). only had a couple bad experiences after heavy redosing and having serotonin syndrome and going into seizures. I thought I better throw that in there so no one thought what I do is safeI am hoping for something better than MDPV (speedy without the pure unadulterated lust). I use this mainly for sex that extends for days, weeks, or even months. Mephedrone is king and legislation sucks. I would prefer living in the early 19th century and still be able to just walk in and purchase heroin or cocaine at the pharamacy.
Glen Sykes
Bluelighter
Are you saying you don't like the pure lust? Everything about MDPV jived with me and I'm looking for a replacement. MDPPP seems to be semi promising- but there's mostly questions rather than information.
I am also interested in dosages through this and other ROAs.
Has anyone done a trip report? Searching led me to this thread.
NO what I meant was the MDPV was more speedy and without the lust. The lust is the primary I am looking for. The 4mmc treated me much better. I am reading up today and considering what I will choose
. Sounds like u should try a ppp although that's just cuz it is one of 3 legal ones appp apvp and mdppp but 4mmc hasn't had much good analogs.
Glen Sykes
Bluelighter
Well in my experience MDPV did have a lust factor, which is what prompted me to ask. Assuming we're talking about the same lust, like carnal lust, I haven't been finding good PV replacement and I too am looking for something with that lust.
Could you compare any of those three to MDPV?I have a holiday/xmas wish that a moderater would create/allow a "Big and Dandy" thread on MDPPP. It appears all recent new posts on this research get pushed/directed here. However, this thread is cumbersome, often off-topic, and has little usable information presented within it. I am especially interested in: pharmacology, chemistry, ROA, MOA, etc.
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MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Why would someone create a B&D for a chemical as useless as this one? It is only 5 pages long, read it...
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
I can't pass judgment on whether it's useless or not, but yeah, this is a vanilla DARI that few people have sampled, and that is NOT spurring a proliferation in threads.
ebola
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
It is a "rocky road" DARI at best... meaning you never know what you're going to get and some people might not like what they end up with...I only asked the question out of a desire to see some non-useless information on this chemical. I had the feeling that this RC may become more popular in the near future (based on web trending, if nothing else) and in the intererst of harm reduction it might be worthwhile to have a place for real discussion and not just hyperbole, i.e. MDPPP is "useless" or a "masterbation shot".
laudium
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CretiNation
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i've found mdppp not really like mdpv at all. mdpv, in my experience, is a monster. mdpv is like cocaine sans the fun; it was as if coke's straight euphoria has been replaced by a deleriously psychotic dysphoric rush mistaken for euphoria. and it never ends. bluuuugrghhhhh *VOMIT*
*shudder*
now where were we? mdppp is kinda like a clean ritalin... basically like focalin but sorta different. not as crave-y (urge to re-dose is slightly less) and less of a noticeable comedown; definitely diminished crash. i should clarify that these observations were made primarily with IV dosing of ~30-60mg every few hours. of course tolerance does build quite fast (especially in said manner). but yeah, it is quite nice for a quick rush then a few hours of stimulation. clean stimulation too. i LIKE it. :D