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[Methoxetamine Subthread] Combinations

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Valium + low dose of MXE = winner. very smooth and nice, euphoric bubble
 
This is my first post on BL but I've been reading for a long time. I wanted to share my experience with MXE, particularly in combination with 5-meo-dalt freebase.

I was looking for a ketamine-like trip when I bought MXE, had some fun for the 30 first trials and then It began to give me a sort of a fuzzy-only-buzz with increased energy, slight increased creative thinking, little euphoria, some anesthesia but nothing more except inability to sleep deeply if I take it too late in the evening.

I bought 5-meo-dalt freebase some months ago, because it was cheap, and I was looking for a tryptamine which was not trippy, or slightly. I had some cool experiences smoking it, but really, nothing epic: a nice rush of energy, feeling floaty, changes in colours, and baseline at t+2h which is cool for a a night out. I tried in a pipe, then in a rolled ciggie and it worked just fine that way, even easier to dose.

Then I tried snorting a 15mg line of MXE, followed by 20mg 5-meo-dalt freebase smoked in a cigaret: I waited 30 seconds, got the double vision I usually got on K, which I was missing on MXE, to a point that it became quickly useless to keep my eyes open. Felt a strong clam and awareness feeling, an even stronger anesthesia, very K-like but even stronger than when I took a 75 mg k-line with no tolerance... in fact, I had exactly the same feeling one can have with K just before holing: wonderful CEVs in a deep dark background, lost of body feeling (can't even say if I'm breathing or if my heart is beating, but can check it if I open my eyes and concentrate), feeling of eternity, floating in space, or flying over an unknown town, geting back to nice places I've been before when I was younger, an see how they changed now: for me MXE + 5-meo-dalt is like merging with a real-time 4d google earth, with ego loss and stuff I can't get with MXE alone, but that I could get with K... except it was more frightening and little much morish too.

Usually I open my eyes after half an hour, there is a wonderful afterglow, it always feel like a small rebirth, music appreciation is way increased, feel refreshed, happy, but so calm, in peace. I tried it 5 times now with very similar results, not doing it more than once a month. Never had any problem with that combination, but can't say if it's safe or not, though.

I tried MXE with ethanol (great, can be messy, but makes song writing easier), smoked cannabis (It has well combined with sex with my gf), 6-apb (nothing great, some slight dissociation), 4-mmc (almost nothing, but felt less depressed when doing MXE on the comedown), MDMA (nice but a little too stimulating which is not great when coming down after a long night out, I find K way better for this), K (cool but wasn't so impressed, I do prefer K alone), and kratom (Mxe kills my kratom high, but it still feel ok). So, the 5-meo-dalt freebase combination is by far the best for me with mxe.
 
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After my first time with methamphetamine yesterday and night, I took ketamine (first time too, 60mg by 10mg at a time) to come down (uuuuuge euphoria), didn't manage to sleep, took some clonazepam, and took some MXE this afternoon, I think I had a psychotic episode (wrote all I thought in a paper during like 3 hours, speaking to me). I just smoked 2 cigs and I'm thinking totally clearly now, but what's the fuck is this effect? Can you explain it to me? I think I'm sleep deprived too. I have some noctran to come down totally but want my girlfriend to come before because I feel a little bit lonely right now. That's really strange :) (really strange because this feeling is really interested to me). It is the sign of a mental illness? I'm feeling great right now but will take a BIG BREAK from drugs... And yes a cig is fucking delicius I don't know why...

During my sort of binge I took massives doses of choline and piracetam, some 5HTP and some rhodiolia to counteract sides effects of methamphetamine and the dissociatives.
 
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Okay so after a 3 day MXE binge after I was feeling really weird cognitively and and couldn't think clearly and I almost felt like I was experiencing some of the effects commonly associated with being schizo after all the effects of mxe wore off.

Anyways I quit/dipping smoking about 2 months ago but in this stupor of not being able to functionally think or express my thoughts clearly I put in a dip of tobacco and WHAM I could think clearly and cognitively process and aline my thoughts with my words but after I spit my dip out a round an hour or two later I started till feel hazy and shcizoish cognitively again.

It almost as if nicotine was a cognitive anti-psychotic so I looked at 'nicotine anti-psychotic' on google this morning and found out over 80% of schizophrenics smoke and some doctors even combine nicotine patches with traditional anti-psychotic meds in shizo-smokers instead of encouraging them to quit. Well I feel fine this morning without any substance but it just further reassures my suspicion that being under the influence of MXE makes you have some of the quality's of a psycho. Hah
here are the links I saw on google with the nicotine anti psycho relationship: http://schizophrenia.about.com/od/complications/f/schiz_smoke.htm
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It could be the flashbacks of all your dog fighting you've done, Mike. Har Har Har just messing around with you :p .

Using any psych for 3 days straight can make you seem a little crazy to yourself(to me atleast, I'll start to hear my OWN voice thinking loudly in my head), and nicotine just calms you down either way. It is interesting doctors have been giving it to schizos though, very interesting. Probably the only case I've heard of a doctor not encouraging someone to quit smoking!
 
i felt similar to that for a few days after i took too much one night, fucked me up abit, give it time and get lots of sleep, you'll be fine. healthy diet etc
 
"Due to their strong rewarding and reinforcing properties, DRIs are notorious for their high abuse potential and liability to cause cravings, addiction, and dependence[dubious – discuss]. DRIs such as cocaine, methylphenidate, and some tricyclic antidepressants, combination releasing agents such as amphetamine, cocaine, methamphetamine, and MDMA ("ecstasy") are widely abused throughout the world."

So mxe+some type of amphetamine could be nice? anyone tried it? And what about the dangers? ssri+a serotonin releasing drug is dangerous because of serotonin syndrome, is there any similar danger for DRI+ dopamine releasing drug?
 
Methoxetamine and ketamine are blockers of nicotinin acetylcholine receptors, so it doesn't suprise me that nicotine would alleviate some of the dissociative/mind-impairing effects.
 
^you should read this thread ;p

the consensus seems to be that it is risky to use a stim concurrently with mxe.

I have found that a small dose of mxe can nicely alleviate 'rebound' from adderall, however.
 
a couple days ago, i took 1 blotter of lucy ( this was my first time ) at 10am. after a couple hours, i was definitely tripping but i wanted to kick up the experience a notch or two, so i decided to dose 45mgs of MXE.

when i was peaking on the acid, i blew down the 45 mg line and went to go smoke some potent weed. after smoking, i came inside and laid down on my floor.when i closed my eyes i experienced the most colorful and lush CEV's i have ever had before. instead of being dark and damp like MXE, my visions were bright and flowing spindles of rainbow-colors and psychedelia. i saw vibrant patterns (always in the shape of circles) and majestic waves of creativity pulsed through my veins. just as i thought it was over, i plunged into one of the most intense holes i have ever encountered. i felt myself folding into itself a thousand times over, and i felt like i was traveling at hyper speed through my head. simultaneous images flashed before my closed eyes unlike ever before. it was amazing

this weekend i plan on dosing 3 hits of acid and blowing down 50mgs MXE on the peak. will be fucking awesome
 
One thing I didn't see on the list, and was curious about is PDE5 inhibitors. I've noticed MXE makes me pretty sexually disinterested (mentally) which might make sex a chore.

Any info on combos with ED drugs like Viagra, Levitra or Cialis?
 
im at the tail end of 10mg of dextroamphetamine (pharmaceutical) and trying 37mg of MXE (weak batch). i feel some strain on heart and respiratory but antidepressive / euphoric effects are very interesting, the dari synergy is there but feels very volatile to the point, and feel this could wrong easily....

Stimuls (whatever any) + MXE - BE CAUTIOUS / BE SAFE!

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LSD + MXE
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Last sunday had another trial with LSD and MXE (you can read about other experiences in this thread) > I tried 4 shiva blotters (white back with pink pigment, no taste) last weekend (my personal prediction 350ug lsd total), with MXE 40mg (oral)felt very similar to good/proper to ketamine but increasing 20mg to a total 60mg, got really out of control! the dosage curve is unbelievable! i felt like i had maniac guy speaking in my head (again) but St. Albert acknowledged this energy with this words "you can feel the PCP of the MXE its a drug for crazy people like damiana that have no sense of objective".

DOSE: Low or medium dosage with psychedelics PLEASE! Definitely 40-50mg is the sweet spot with this one... this is not a clean dissociative drug as ketamine to the mind! I bet the arylcyclohexylamines chemist reading this knows already that, its a dirty, spaghetti style fucked up drug on high doses. Thats food for thought...

Like a parfum, just a bit, otherwise it stinks ;)

Enjoy biaatches! :)
 
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ColtDan said:
i felt similar to that for a few days after i took too much one night, fucked me up abit, give it time and get lots of sleep, you'll be fine. healthy diet etc
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Yeah after some sleep I feel totaly right. This effect was almost therapeutic, the thinks that I wrote was directly my unconscious speaking to me, all my problems are there (in the paper), I just have to deal with now. Ketamine and Methoxetamine are very impressive for there therapeutic value, wasn't aware of that much. Sekio you must be right, thanks for the answer.
 
Methoxetamine + Stimulant Cross Tolerance?

Hi all,

So, like many of you, I had a 'religious experience' the first time I tried MXE. And then, as I've done with most drugs/video games, I fiended the fuck out of it for about 3 weeks before giving my stash to a friend because I noticed a huge tolerance building as well as a loss of the initial positive effects at low doses (and I didn't want to push my dose up).

In any case, during that time, I didn't consume any adderall/concerta, drugs which I occasionally use to help study or get work done. Because of my infrequent use, usually 5-10mg of Adderall is enough to get me going and working - anything more than that and I feel like I've taken a shitty roll and have lots of teeth grinding and scattered thoughts.

Well, long story short, I've tried adderall the past few days, and I barely even feel 10mg. It takes me about 20mg to really get an effect. Has anyone else experienced this type of cross tolerance building? I know that MXE has dopaminergic action, but I was impressed at how much a few weeks of fiending had (potentially) affected my tolerance to stimulants.

For what it's worth, I went through about a gram in the first week I had it, and about a gram a week after that. That's not a huge amount, but my average dose (unless I was doing it with friends) was about 20-40mg. Seeing as I did this multiple times a day, I qualify that as fiending.

Any input would be nice. I suppose this is why I can't have nice things ><

Thanks!
 
A gram in a week is a rather huge amount if your tolerance isn't already sky high or you're not wasting it on inefficient ROAs. I definitely think that given MXE's Dopamine Reuptake Inhibition it would leave you with a noticeable tolerance to other DRIs and Dopamine Releasers for a while after this. I can only imagine how significant your dissociative tolerance must be. You should leave it a while and see if tolerance falls appropriately.
 
A couple times on shrooms. Like others have said one of my best experiences yet...so if you have access to both the substances i would def give it a go! Mystical experience as they would call it.
 
I know its not LSD or MXE in the following example, but they are both a 5HT psychedelic and an Arylcyclohexylamine, but a decent dose of Ketamine (2 x around 60mg spaced 1 hour apart) turned a sub-par DOC trip into a pretty amazing (and very intense) visual experience which as good as blew my head off - possibly the most intense trip I've ever had (and one of my best - though was pretty scary at times!). The colours and intricacy/level of detail of the CEV's were unlike anything I've seen before, and the synaesthesia was mind blowing - tasted all sorts of flavours whilst seeing and experiencing all sorts of insane stuff!

I have high hopes for LSD and Ketamine (If ever I get chance to combine the two), and imagine dosing Methoxetamine on an LSD peak would be incredible.
 
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