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What I did to get better (MDPV)

Hardcoreprawn

Hardcoreprawn

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Its been a week since my mishaps with what I now believe to be MDPV (or something really similar). I thought it was something else and overdid it. I've since decided to quit stimulants all together as they were not having a positive impact on my life. I am not an addict but I believe I have addict potential so I'd rather leave them alone. I tended to stick to legal substances as I couldnt get in trouble but I dont think its worth the health risk.

After my very bad MDPV experience last week, I suffered the following:

- really bad depression
- anxiety, did not want to go out in public at all
- insomnia at first
- lethargy after the 2nd day
- serious lack of motivation

Things helped:
- Valerian (Nytol herbal) only I found you need 3-4 rather than the recommended 2
- gentle exercise
- talking on the forums to people who've been in my shoes
- being open and honest with my other half who's been supportive

I have had to take a week off work but I believe that is unrelated to the MDPV. What led me to stims was stress at work which my bad experience has oddly forced me to face. I am not trying to sort things out so at least there has been some positives.

I can honestly say, I am done with legal highs. Just as well seeing as the UK is about to adopt analogue laws similar to the US.

From my experience, I can understand why someone would try "RC"s and legal highs. They are freely available, fairly cheap and they work. What I've learned, though, is that they are probably not legal at all and often contain banned substances. Its just not worth the risk. Although I believe in legalising psychotropic substances and making them as safe as possible for public consumption, I have to say I believe some real dangerous molecules have become widely available. These are not the drugs of the past, they are highly addictive and completely bad for you. I thinks its a real shame that prohobition and moral attitudes against being "high" has produced some seriously dangerous chemicals. If you can, leave well alone.
 
MDPV wreaked more havoc in my life than a year-long IV opiate habit. I only took MDPV (on an almost daily basis) for 2 months, ironically it helped assuage the WD symptoms from Suboxone tremendously, but after the first month it took some serious tolls. In the beginning, I would snort a bump in the morning, and it made my WD symptoms disappear, and made me feel euphoric and enthusiastic about that day of university classes. I wrote papers on it, took exams, and went to class on MDPV, and it increased my performance in all three.

But, after a month, these surges in dopamine made me paranoid to the point of psychosis on several occasions. It got to the point, where crippling paranoia became something I got used to and lived with. It's been almost a year since I've touched MDPV, but I still reflect back on those psychotic episodes. It almost feels like a mild case of PTSD. I started to feel "normal" about a month after quitting the stuff, but the crazy mindsets I got myself into still haunt me from time to time.

I've done a fair bit of amphetamines in my day, but I've never had the same problems with them as I did with MDPV. I think the way it acts on dopamine makes it more likely to create paranoia/psychosis.
 
MDVP quickly turned into a nightmare that my twenty year old son could not stop. It made him completely psychotic whenever he binged (which became every time he did it). This went on for a year of IV usage. In the end he was so depressed about his life and his thinking was so clouded. He tried to use opiates to counteract the MDVP and he eventually lost his life to an overdose probably due to bad decision-making while shooting up MDVP. He talked a lot about it here (Ektamine) and to us, his family. Now the nightmare for my son has ended and ours has begun. I will never forget the paranoid psychosis and the terror it produced in him.
 
Hardcoreprawn, thank you for sharing this. MDPV can be a very compulsive and scary drug - I am so pleased you have managed to stop, you should be really pleased and proud! It's fantastic of you to come on here and share your experience in the hope of helping others.. The RC market certainly has changed the face of drug use dramatically, and it is really terrifying how many new and untested substances there are available..

As ErikTheRed and Herbavore say, MDPV carries a huge risk of stimulant psychosis, which is absolutely terrifying for the person and for those around them. I hope anyone who is struggling with using this substance gains strength and hope from this thread and takes the necessary steps to stop their use now <3
 
The funny bit is that I didnt actually use that much at all. Not even 1g - and it was by accident because I thought it was something else! Just wanted to offer any help to anyone suffering bad comedown symptoms. It really does wreak havoc on your mood and it takes a long time to recover. Im feeling rather good now.
 
While on MDPV I could not help myself from staying awake 3 days at a time, going into psychosis and doing awful things that caused me PTSD.

I have done my best to reconstruct memories of what happened on some of those tragic binges. From there I have been able to have less frequent and less intense flashbacks.

What I did to get better
-Just said "No"
-Reconstructed memories
-Stopped taking Adderall & Klonopin - abstinence allowed me to do emotional work and improve my overall being
 
Mami: without sounding too patronising, well done. This is the first drug that has completely blindsighted me. I was lucky that I have not experienced any psychosis but plenty of emotional downsides. Nothing has floored me like this for so long afterwards. Horrible drug.
 
I like the person who said that a month or two of MDPV wrought more havoc on their life than a year of opiate addiction. I ALMOST would agree with that. I only say almost because opiate addiction did so so much harm to my life, but that was over a couple years of use. In three weeks MDPV had me looking out the windows constantly, swearing that the same cars were driving by and looking at me. It finally had me up for 3-4 days, ending in a nightmarish experience that had me calling the cops to my house twice in one night, at 2 and 4am, because i thought people were walking around my house trying to get me. I mean, i had never experienced stimulant psychosis before, and so when i hear people talking and walking around, i generally assume they are there. Oh lord. Anyway, this landed me in the hospital for several days, trying to explain to a psychiatrist who wanted me committed that it was only a long drug binge that got me there. Fuck that drug. It really made me question my previous theory of total drug legalization. I was definitely not heartbroken at all when they made it illegal here.
 
I still believe in legalisation (so long as you have controlled legalisation). Its the black market that produced thsi crap. People will always get high. If you ban safer options, worse stuff appears. Its been happening since they started banning the poppy. Read "The pursuit of oblivion". This is possibly the best (although academic) text on the history of the moral argument against "drug" use.

Unfortunatly, I honestly believe that so long as we keep banning things, worse substances will find their way into the black market. How many of us would choose an untested, unknown RC over a controlled legal MDMA or LSD or whatever your poison is? If you legalise if you can control it.
 
EFFIE: Once you've run out, I dont see why anyone would want to repeat the experience. It confuses me the posts I see of people doing this long term! Mine was accidental and the worst experience of my life!
 
First post: Good point actually... It's certainly a difficult issue, and i'm definitely all for decriminalization.

Anyway, I don't really understand your second post. Why would people use drugs after one use? MDPV? All drugs? Well two things really, people have addictive personalities and also some drugs are physically addictive, usually it is a combination of the two. And finally, how could your repeated use be accidental?
 
As my son once said, He could get addicted to hot peppers (and was!) MDVP was the first drug that scared the shit out of him with his obsessive need to do it and his obsessive need to keep re-dosing once he had it. Compulsive is the right word.

As much as I hate this drug I am still against making any drug illegal. Making people that are seeking relief for their own bodies and minds, and perhaps making bad decisions along the way, into criminals does more harm sometimes than the drugs themselves.
 
1- yes you get passed the "damage"
2- Sorry, I meant I dont understand why anyone would want to abuse MDPV after recovering from the nasty NASTY side effects.
 
Well my post did not get though. Try this again.

Rc's are fun and should be legal. Making drugs illegal just makes drug makers make new and more dangerous drugs.

Rc's are fun but mdpv is a very strong drug. I worry about the long term damage I did to my body and mind with this drug. I lived 2 years is psychosis with this drug. It upped my other drug habits and caused me to crash to bad I ended up in a mental hosptial a few times. I will say it took years to come back from mdpv. Im 7 months clean and still feel the effects of the drug.

But I had more fun on mdpv then I will ever have again. *sigh* sad I wish drugs were all legal I feel sad I will never do mdpv again. I can't. I just ... miss it so much even though it destroyed my entire life.

MDPV... the most scary drug I ever loved.
 
I just wanted to say.. wow! I got good results from valerian root when I quit MDPV too. I never really said anything because I thought it might just be placebo.. but maybe there's something to the valerian.

MDPV is a wicked drug. I can say also that I loved it. And still love it. I just get so completely tweaked out and unproductive and then outright self-destructive that I can never do it again. It's given me lasting anxiety issues and also gave me a stutter that i didn't have before.
 
How interesting. I did lots of drugs when I was a teen and I also developed a stutter. Still have it but it only shows when Im tired or nervous. Valerian is a great muscle relaxant and non addictive like benzos. I am reading about Kava at the moment see if that hs therapeutic value. My mother was into all this herbal witchery when I was young. Most of it is crap but some of it is gold!
 
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