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Hi all,

Been lurking this place for years for relevant drug advice and have never been steered wrong. :) I was hoping to get some input on rolling (MDMA not E) two weekends in a row.

I've probably taken E/MDMA 7-8 times in my life...always spaced out by at least a few months (if not more), so I've never really been concerned with any kind of comedown, long-term effects, or tolerance issues.

It just so happens that my two favorite electronic artists are coming here on back-to-back weekends. My friends and I planned on taking MDMA for both shows.

Unfortunately MDMA out here is extremely unreliable in terms of quality/potency -- it amazes me I paid almost double what I did in Cali this summer for a G of far inferior MDMA. =/

Anyway, at the first show this past Wednesday I took .5 (out of a G) of MDMA in total, spaced out into dips of .2/.2/.1. I definitely had a good roll, but felt like my peak didn't last as long as I would have liked it to. I'm assuming this was due to the quality of the MDMA -- I feel like taking .5 for someone who doesn't roll that often is a decent amount. For reference, the last time I rolled was a little more than 2 months ago.

The only other thing that I can think of that might have affected my peak is that I do take Adderall for studying purposes, sometimes 3-4 times a week (not prescribed). I made sure to abstain for three days before the first show, but I would say I have built up a decent amphetamine tolerance (I make sure to never take more than 30mg Adderall in a day, usually 20-25mg). I haven't found a lot of relevant info on taking Adderall on days leading up to or after a roll -- most stuff I found were people's experiences combining Adderall/MDMA, which I don't plan on doing.

So I have .5 left, but feel like I'm definitely going to need more if I want to get a good roll for the artist playing next weekend, given that I wasn't satisfied with the peak of my last one. Is this assumption correct, and does anyone have any other advice regarding rolling on consecutive weekends? I bought 5-HTP pills at CVS and took one today, planned on taking another tomorrow and then take a few more in the days after next weekend's show. Also Vitamin C.

I don't plan on making this a regular occurrence -- I know you're supposed to wait much longer in between rolls to fully enjoy the experience and avoid the potentially nasty side effects of serotonin depletion, but I look at this as something of a special occasion.

Thanks for any advice or suggestions!
 
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It can be done, I've been waaaay over-indulging on MDMA recently, my friend even more so. Unfortunately for him it is literally having no effect anymore. You will cause yourself more damage, but you're not going to wake up and feel like a part of your brain is missing. You'll just feel quite run down and possibly a bit 'feinty' or 'dizzy' the morning after the 2nd weekend. IMO you'll be fine.
 
Hey Before this thread gets locked cuz even though the question is new to you.... its been discussed before. So I'll throw you a response incase it does get locked up. This is coming from a very seasoned vet with adderall and MDMA. I dosed on MDMA for a solid 5-6 years hardcore then tailed off for about another 2 years. Now I won't touch it. I've also been about 100mg Adderall a day for a few years.

The Adderall affects your Central Nervous system. Also affects your dopamine.
The MDMA affects your Central Nervous system. Also affects your serontonin.

Dopamine is a neurotransmitter that helps control the brain's reward and pleasure centers. Dopamine also helps regulate movement and emotional responses, and it enables us not only to see rewards, but to take action to move toward them. When you are low on dopamine you become lazy, tired, and low amounts of dopamine is linked to Parkisons disease.

Serotonin affects your mood, emotion, sleep and appetite and thus is implicated in the control of numerous behavioural and physiological functions. Decreased serotoninergic neurotransmission has been proposed to play a key role in the aetiology of depression.

I'm not going to preach about not mixing the two because I have a million times before. Along with alot of other stupid combos. But it might feel good to mix the two but the crash is going to be awful. Depending on studies it says it take 2-4 weeks for your serotonin and dopamine to return to it's normal levels.

Your brain is already minus on the serotonin from last weekend and definitely isn't replenished especially if it was MDMA
.5 grams. Based on my past experience two weeks in a row is brutal. The second week you have a semi ok roll and you definitely crash twice as hard.
Whenever I tried to jack up my serotonin to speed up the process I definitely loaded up on 5HTP, St. Johns, bananas because of the potassium. Ate bananas before and after the roll.
The Calcium C stay away from if you plan on taking adderall. The calcium C will decrease the effects of the adderall

So my 2 cents is to hold out and do not take the MDMA. Save it. You will need a lot more then .5 to even feel good and any MDMA will be a waste anyways once it soaks up your serotonin. Save your magic in the brain. Continue to roll once in a blue moon.
 
.5 would be a high dose for most people!

Rolling two weekends in a row (and then taking a break) isn't really going to cause you that many problems (unless you make a habit of it).
 
Rolling every weekend REGULARLY is definitely not good ... but I think you know that. Taking at least a month break is recommended. However, most people (not all) have gone against that rule on occasion ... for things like this! I had two huge festivals just two weeks apart ... so just one weekend in between them... oh you bet I went to both, lol. It's okay on occasion but don't make a habit out of it :)
 
I know you just bought it and all, but 5-htp isn't good for you. It's converted all throughout your blood stream by enzymes before it ever reaches your brain, resulting in lots of excess serotonin where you don't want it. Stick to tryptophan, or just eat a lot of lean protein.

Some things you can take to enhance your MDMA experience -

quercetin
EGCG (in green tea, or capsules)
dark chocolate
piracetam/aniracetam
 
Even my E-diet wouldnt allow me to keep rolling every weekend.

but 5-htp isn't good for you
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This.

Also,
I have done this before, and im fine but everyone is different i guess.
I think you'd probably be alright so long as its a One off,

I did it as a one off in the early days of finding mdma,
but i still get absolutely floored now.

Look into eating certain foods, rather than 5-HTP.
As mentioned above, Dark chocolate is good.
Also tuna, Bananas, Cheese, Turkey and chicken, High quality Eggs,
(Look on my Blogs, for a full list)

DO NOT MAKE THIS A HABIT. (Rolling Too often that is)
 
I only did this once (first 2 times i rolled) and wasnt too bad actually. But i have friends who did this pretty often and are now having horrific comedowns i suspect because they used to roll 2-3 times in 2 weeks a couple times a year..

So its up to you. Can you resist not doing it next time JUST because it wont be so bad now.. If you have the will power to stay off for 3 months after this and dont repeat the kind of consecutive rolls you should be just fine..


On a side note(sorry for going off topic): I read that taking more than 2mg per KG bodyweight is useless for feeling more MDMA effects. Anybody like to share on this. Cause a friend took 350 mg at once and said it was way more intense than the 175 mg we took a few months before that.

It made me curious. But i dont wanna fuck up my tolerance and loose the great times i can have on just a 100mg.
 
I was planning on rolling for my second week in a row 2. I have a question for everyone here though (not trying to jack your thread, but this is very relevant and I feel it's unnessisairy to make a separate thread for). Would it be a waste trying to redose if I'm rolling 2 weeks in a row? I was planning on taking 2 good rolls and then a hour and a half later take another just to last menthrough the whole party and then some
 
Yeah I only use 5-HTP as a "tuesday blues" aid. Never before and never very close to the end of a roll. Tryptophan is soooo much safer and more efficient. Healthy too!
 
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I was planning on rolling for my second week in a row 2. I have a question for everyone here though (not trying to jack your thread, but this is very relevant and I feel it's unnessisairy to make a separate thread for). Would it be a waste trying to redose if I'm rolling 2 weeks in a row? I was planning on taking 2 good rolls and then a hour and a half later take another just to last menthrough the whole party and then some
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You current schedule looks good to me. If you don't have a tolerance and you don't make a habit out of weekly rolling you should be okay. I actually prefer to redose if I am rolling for two consecutive weeks in a row. Just make sure to redose within the first two hours of your initial drop.
 
Thanks dawgg. Another thing, is it a good idea to redose with a diff pill? I'm gettin ones that are cut with coke and other are strait MDMA and I was thinking of redosing with a just MDMA one does that sound good?
 
That's what i thought because I thought you couldn't take coke orally, but he and his dealer call em coke hearts and insist there is coke in em so idk
 
I agree the reports aren't to promising but he told me and his best friends they were amazing and e isn't making any money off the transaction so I doubt he would fuck us over randomly
 
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