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Im back..a little update..for the people who care.

LSDMDMA&10045676 said:
wouldn't this be more suited to his blog rather than a thread?

I dont think so, this poor guy needs some help..

normally I would tell people antidepressant are horrible, but at this point, you really have nothing to lose...

my heart goes out to you man, but keep your chin up, the brain is very adaptable, you will feel normal again eventually


In the mean time, I would go get some help from a therapist or something, tell them everything, maybe the anxiety is caused by something else?

how could one pill do so much damage...


oh and I hate that feeling of not caring... complete apathy towards everything... its worse than the worst of the depression
 
Listen man, that could have been me writing what you said.

Especially the "numbness" in my brain, enen though you can still function and complete school.

It's a disgusting blank feeling.

Everything you described is related to Depersonalization. Word.

You had a bad experience ona drug that sent you into a DP'd state. it happens, most get it from weed, it doesnt mean they have brain damage.

Chill out, check out www.dpselfhelp.com and get aquianted with people who have your disorder, which I can assure you you do, you took a piperizine, not MDMA, so your not going through an MDMA recovery process.

In the mean time, like I said check out that site, they have some good tips on recovering as well as symptoms to make you feel not so along, and get outside exercise, and distract yourself.
 
Thizzin' - glad to see you again.
Sorry you are still feeling so empty.

I know what it is like to try and convince other people how bad it is, only to realize that words are inadequate.
How do you translate the malfunction of the endocrine system into English?

People can read the sentence, but they will never really comprehend how empty and unhuman it feels.
How every day that passes sees another part of your mind chewed away...like a cancer of the soul.
Who would have ever imagined that life could feel so GRAY?

I would say it is 'cold' too, except even that suggests too much sensation.
I could take off my clothes and lie down on the tile in a bank and feel NOTHING.
Well, at least that thought occured to me about two months ago...at my 10 month mark...standing in line at my bank.
I might be able to tell the tile was cold, but it wouldn't feel remarkable in any way. The cold just doesn't penetrate.
There would be no amusement, or embarrasment, by being seen naked on the floor either!

There would be no emotional response whatsoever - and even the simplest sensations like hot and cold utilize emotional pathways in the brain via the endocrine system.

Every sensory experience, from sight to sound to touch, relies on the hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis.
It is here that we find meaning in life.
And without it the term 'robot' makes complete sense.

Not only is the HPA axis not releasing the right chemicals to make you feel good, it is actually working against you - causing an unending cycle of suffering that few can imagine. Perhaps other former drug users understand....heroin, benzos, and cocaine all have particularly nasty recovery processes for heavier users.
Ironic - we were 'moderate' users of MDMA and we get burned just as badly, or worse, than the long-term 'addicts'.
I know - yours may have been pipes, but you understand the inequality even more.

Anheonia and Dp/Dr.
Inadequate words.

Do NOT take anti-depressants, esp. SSRIs.
Many MDMA users do not respond to them, and some respond very badly.
Those that do respond well still have a MAJOR complication down the road.
They stop working as well and require a larger dose.
And many report feeling like 'zombies' on them, unable to feel ANY emotion (inc. anxiety).
While that may sound acceptable to you right now, it won't one day. Especially when they disable all sexual feelings as well.

HPA axis malfunction is seen in major depression and psychotic disorders.
SSRI are known to correct the HPA, but not permanently.
In fact after withdrawal of the medication, HPA function can be WORSE.
Many patients that start anti-depressants find it impossible to ever stop.
They undergo 'maintenance therapy' or they just continue taking them for the rest of their lives.

I have only seen BAD things from people using them for MDMA recovery.
I can recall seeing many warnings against it by people who tried.
They tend to say it cost them recovery time, in a big way.
They also say it stopped working or made them feel emotionless.
A friend of mine, Somedud, spoke out in support of Lexapro right when it began working around week 5.
He literally called it a 'cure' and he was quite amused at his previous suffering.

Within another 5 weeks, approx., he was DONE with them.
He just said they made him feel weird and he didn't like it anymore.
I'm glad he stopped early on and didn't allow himself be moved to another medication right away.
Sometimes this can have terrible results.

Anti-psychotics only work by preventing the manic symptoms....they do not treat the anhedonia and depression.
And they can cause toxicity to an area of the brain that may have already been damaged - the striatum.
Loss of dopamine in this part of the brain is associated with movements disorders, which can be life-long for some patients.
I believe that the grinding of teeth and tight muscles while rolling is caused by dopamine blockade in this area.
But for those 're-wiring' the brain from serotonergic injury, the striatum and palladium may be subject to ongoing degredation.
Some researchers believe that MDMA recovery is in some ways a 'degenerative process' simply because some former users show loss of dopamine in this area.

If you are determined to try an anti-depressant...look into selegeline.
It is a weak amphetamine and an MAOB inhibitor, not an SSRI or dopamine blocker.
It has less serious side-effects compared to other amphetamines like aderall and dexedrine.
And unlike those stimulants, it is also a neuro-protectant. It may prevent degeneration in the striatum...and it protects the serotonin transporter!
It comes in a patch that smooths out the dose, too.
No, I haven't tried it, but I wish I had.

In my judgement it is the safest anti-depressant available for this problem.
It shouldn't interfere with the recovery process, and it may improve it.
I should point out that you probably have TOO much dopamine, in some brain regions.
By increasing dopamine through MAOB inhibition, you will probably target lots of areas that are currently starving for dopamine.
If you didn't know, serotonin directly inhibits dopamine in several of its main pathways - including the striatum.
The 're-wiring' of the brain, which is throwing serotonin all over the place, is fucking up your dopamine balance in a big way.
This is on top of the HPA malfunction.
By increasing dopamine supply, the HPA may improve.

You know what else will increase dopamine?
Exercise.

And it also lowers cortisol levels, which is very important if you are suffering adrenal fatigue.
And it causes resprouting of serotonin axons through the release of nerve-growth factors.
And it increases the number of capillarries in the brain, and synaptic connections.

But you already know all of this.
No, it isn't a cure...and some days are SO hard that working out is the last thing on your mind.
Those are also the days when you will benefit the most from it!

My greatest improvement has always come from exercising when I REALLY didn't want to.
I remember a few times hoping it would kill me!
Somehow I always, always felt better afterwards.
Ok, it takes an hour or two to feel it - but the benefits are unmistakable.

Exercise is the brain's best bet for life-long health AND recovery from injury.
We were designed to work physically everday anyways - only recent humans have been allowed so much laziness.
The body serves to heal the brain, my friend.

I am four days from ONE year since my last dose of MDMA.
I am a week from one year since my 'comedown' or serotonin syndrome.

And I can honestly say that in the last month, things have really improved.
I wouldn't have beleived it at month 10, either.
But sure enough, it feels like a transition of some kind.

I find the cognitive changes are increasing with time...and sometimes I have modest memory issues that last a day or two.
But the suffering is WAY less than it was two months ago.
The days that I don't feel so good are quite relaxing compared to what they used to be.
I have no problem watching a movie or reading a book or laying around when I'm not feeling great.
And some days I am very pleased to be alive.
I just went to Six Flags and rode quite a few rollercoasters.
And my adrenal system is definately working!
Ok...there is a modest difference still, a slight decrease in fear.
But I was thrilled, and scared, and exhilerated....human.

I firmly believe that this will continue to improve, slowly.
I can finally smoke weed without worrying about how many hits I take.
That is a big deal, because it used to be quite a risk.
Now it seems to be pretty predictable.

I got hints of the coming change starting at about 10.5 months.
By month 11, I was sure that something was different.
Now, I am hopeful for a real transition, a change into another phase of recovery.
I will be sure to post my progress in the next month or two.
If you want a direct report, just send me a message.

You are going to make it, Thizzin.
You are already past the hardest part.
I know, it is still relentless - but it WILL end.
This is supported by LOTS of research - people recover around 12 months, sometimes 18...if its MDMA.
Even with major brain injury, people can make amazing progress over many years!
So no matter what happened to you, you are going to be OK.
I promise.

Your personality and cognition may be altered, but you will NOT continue to suffer.
I am certain of this.
I have read stories of people suffering for FIVE years due to SSRI discontinuation.
We are talking full anhedonia - laying in bed all day and night...not interacting with anyone.
But for one person, it just started getting better.
Within weeks they were exercising and having sex, after YEARS of being a 'robot'.

It makes sense that you think this is never going to end.
The brain needs to truly believe it is permanent, in order for the endocrine system to make the appropriate changes.
Until you are convinced your suffering will never stop, you cannot reach the next plateau.
When it hurts the most, you are making the most progress.
Believe it.

Damn, your description seriously mirrors many of my personal feelings, thoughts and sensations. I had a bad MDMA experience about 2 years ago and feel like I've been slowly recovering since. I've rolled a few times since then, which simply feel like a recovery-reset for me. The day after the roll, it's back to square one. It's been several months since my last roll and I'm afraid to roll again with the fear that I will again be back at square one.

I have a question for the OP: You say you are 18 years old today. That would make you ~6 years old in 1998. Please for the love of god do not tell me you have actually been been 'thizzin' since 98'. 8(

I remember feeling just as you described, completely and totally empty. Like a robot, like I have no meaning or purpose, I'm just a drop of water in the pond, no one would notice if I was suddenly gone, no one benefits by me being here, I'm just here. Absolutely less-than-zero motivation to do anything, even eat, sleep, take a shit, normal everyday things suddenly seem insanely complex and not worth it. Ultimately feeling suicidal, like the only way out is death. There's nothing darker than feeling suicidal, absolutely nothing. A person cannot get to a lower point in their life than "I want to die".

I'm still recovering, still abstaining from MDMA and pretty much anything synthetic at all, and my only recreational substances in my life are weed, kratom, kava, (some) alcohol and maybe the occasional mushroom treat. Aside from that, I'm avoiding anything that could potentially do any kind of harm to my brain. I've improved so much, and to take steps back now would be the worst thing in the world. I dream of a day that I am anxiety and depression free.

Hang in there man. Things WILL improve. You are simply in the greatest psychological funk of your life, however it WILL improve. Vitamins, exercise, good diet, and a healthy social life will help tremendously. Also, like I mentioned above, it won't hurt you to enjoy the occasional NON-TOXIC recreational indulgence like some kratom tea or kava. That will help you cope without hurting you or springing you into an addiction. I find that sometimes I get into a bad funk, where It's just hard for me to stay happy, and a nice recreational dose of kratom can help 'remind' me of what it feels like to be happy and comfortable without going over the edge. Just obviously be smart and you'll be fine.

And obviously, do not ever take another ecstacy pill even if you know it's 100% pure crystal molly. Just because it's pure does not mean it doesn't still damage your brain.
 
I think this is a worthwhile post for the sake of harm reduction, as it's a great example of what can happen if you're not careful and test what you have. I'm happy to leave it open for a while, I think stories that serve as examples of how or why to be safer about using drugs are good to have dialogue about.
 
I think this is a worthwhile post for the sake of harm reduction, as it's a great example of what can happen if you're not careful and test what you have. I'm happy to leave it open for a while, I think stories that serve as examples of how or why to be safer about using drugs are good to have dialogue about.
Good :) ty!

I really hope you get better man, it only took a month for me to start feeling better, I couldnt imagine 10
 
there are plenty of us here that feel blank or depressed so your defenitly not the only person that understands or see's how serious your situation is. imo your kinda making it more than what it is, alot of people do this after they had a intense experience even i have multiple times. change wont happen over night you basically just have to stay positive and dont let your self get the best of you and your happiness. i wouldnt turn to antidepressants yet, if i would have done that already i would be in a way worse state than i was in the beginning
 
I suggest seeing a therapist. I've been in therapy for years because of my PTSD and depression. Before I went into therapy, I felt the exact same way as you did. I still sometimes get like that every now and again. Music sounds like noise, no interest in playing a game, and I end up staring at my desktop or my ceiling for hours, waiting to get tired so I can go to sleep. But therapy has helped me build the super-basic emotional foundation. I went from being a complete disaster/wreck to being only mildly fucked in the head on therapy alone. Then I opted to take anti-depressants.

Honestly, they helped. I felt content for the first time in a long time. Not my usual, "Yeah, things are okay but soon they'll be shitty again" content. An actual "I can do this" sort of content. Life didn't feel like a big waste of time anymore.

I often had thoughts like, if I didn't exist, how would things be different? Whose lives would be better? They weren't inherently depressed thoughts, just curious. But when depression would suckerpunch me in the gut, I would start thinking about how I'm literally wasting physical space, oxygen, and natural resources. That the entire world would benefit from me not existing. I'd sit in my room, lights off, never moving, trying my hardest not to exist. Suicide was another thing that would burden people, so I just hoped that one day I would disappear.

Get into therapy at the very least. But don't discredit anti-depressants. They are in no way a cure, and I hate the fact that I'm dependent on a drug that lately doesn't seem to really do much of anything. But, they help rebuild the emotional foundation you need. Just get into therapy first, go out into the sun, exercise, eat healthy foods, and if all that doesn't work, consider anti-depressants.
 
First of all, thank you guys so much for all the reply's and input. It feels like a family. I can't express how much it means, to find people that care. People that can relate. That is my problem, when I go to a doctor, or a therapist, they can't relate. That's why I continually come back to Bluelight.

I recently lost my health insurance, so that abruptly put a stop to me seeing my therapist and psychiatrist. I was only able to see them for 3 weeks. And its been almost 3 months since then. Last week I got accepted for IEHP Direct, so if anyone knows any good therapists, psychiatrists or neurologists in the IE, I'll take recommendations.

To the people asking if it was really the pipes or the MDMA that caused all of this, it has to be, in my opinion.

Before drug use, you could ask me if I ever had anxiety, and I would have to ask you "No, what does that feel like?" I was beyond content with my life. I had everything I wanted at the time. No depression, mild stress from some drama that was going on at the time, no medical issues besides some inner ear troubles that I've had since a kid.

Two years ago, I was in Loma Linda University Hospital for a massive mastoid infection that came out of the blue from an untreated ear infection I had. I caught the infection right before it started to get to my brain, leaving me very close to death. At the time I was 16. I was on a 24 hour IV, pumping me with the strongest antibiotics at the time for 31 days.

And the funny thing is, not once did I ever feel an ounce of anxiety. I was actually in a good mood most of the time. Laughing with my family in my hospital bed, even though I saw my parents cry, I didn't cry once.

And look, now one little pill, and I am no longer mentally stable.

I could go to the beach, get drunk off my ass, pass out, and be golden the next day. Now, if I drink 2 or 3 beers and I start to feel a buzz, it automatically triggers a panic attack, I have to go inside, drink a huge glass of water and walk around for a few minutes, telling myself to calm down. I can't even imagine smoking weed again...I would probably run out into the street and get run over.

First Bad Comedown, once again, thank you for time and generous input. I knew you would read this and be one of the first to reply :)

The story about you being at the bank, is exactly how I feel whenever I go out. Ill be standing in line at Stater Bros, and i'll get this overwhelming numb feeling. I'm just waiting to get the fuck out and go home. When I look around, things feel slowed down and my reality feels like a still photo.

It does feel like a cancer, I often tell my family, I feel so sick and so bad, that it honestly feels like I could just throw my sickness up. My stomach is constantly filled with butterflies and cramps. I can feel it eating me up from the inside out.

I was seriously considering starting down the path of SSRI's but you keep reassuring me that it will hurt in the long run, so I'm going to write that off again.

You suggested Selegine, but if it's in the same category as Aderall, I don't think I'm interested. My father takes Aderall as an upper to make him less tired, to combat the 8-10 other medications he is on for anxiety, depression, etc etc. I hate being around him when he takes them. I reminds me of tweaking.

I promise you all, I will start exercising again. I know its the bottom line, and I really need to fucking do this already.

I don't want to waste your time, or mine.

I am so happy to hear that you are getting over your issues. Keep me updated with yourself please :) The one year mark is really what I am aiming for. I pray everyday that by that time, I can fade back to the old me.

As far as memory goes, what could I take to boost that? My mind is just every so thoughtless, besides anxiety filled thinking.



Thank you Bsiren, for keeping this thread open. I appreciate it.
 
DUDE LISTEN TO ME! READ UP ON DEPERSONALIZATION YOU FIT THE DISSCRIPTION TO a T!!!!!

I fuck gaurentee you man, you'll save yourself alot of trouble.

Bad drug experiences send THOUSANDS of people into it! Most get it from weed!! It doesnt mean they're brain damaged.

Stop being so niave man fuckkkk, you said it yourself you were FINE after all your MDMA experiences until you took a PURE PIPERAZINE! Which s a HORRIBLE high but not serotongenically neurotoxic! Fuck man, add two adn two together this is frustrating to have to keep saying.

MDMA = Fine (which means no noticeable neurotoxicity)
Peiperzine (Non-neurotoxic) = Crazy, UNREAL state (means DP NOT brain damage jezusssssss)

Like, seriously, check out www.dpselfhelp.com and READ about it and you'll relate to EVERYTHING you have NO BRAIN DAMAGE for fuck sakeees. DP is from stress, and the more you convince yourself your brain damaged, the more distressed you'll become, the WORSE your DP will get. If you SERIOUSLY believe your brain damaged, you'll NEVER come out of DP.

How many times must I say this STOP BEING STUPID. Do some SIMPLE logic.

The most COMMONG complaint, which is even state ON wikipedie and HUNDREDS is websites as a clinical report of depersonalized patients is that THEY THINK THEY HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE OR SOME MYSTERIOUS ILLNESS THATS NOT PRESENT!!

Hopefully you read this instead of being a typical 18 year old who thinks he knows the world.

Listen!
 
DUDE LISTEN TO ME! READ UP ON DEPERSONALIZATION YOU FIT THE DISSCRIPTION TO a T!!!!!

I fuck gaurentee you man, you'll save yourself alot of trouble.

Bad drug experiences send THOUSANDS of people into it! Most get it from weed!! It doesnt mean they're brain damaged.

Stop being so niave man fuckkkk, you said it yourself you were FINE after all your MDMA experiences until you took a PURE PIPERAZINE! Which s a HORRIBLE high but not serotongenically neurotoxic! Fuck man, add two adn two together this is frustrating to have to keep saying.

MDMA = Fine (which means no noticeable neurotoxicity)
Peiperzine (Non-neurotoxic) = Crazy, UNREAL state (means DP NOT brain damage jezusssssss)

Like, seriously, check out www.dpselfhelp.com and READ about it and you'll relate to EVERYTHING you have NO BRAIN DAMAGE for fuck sakeees. DP is from stress, and the more you convince yourself your brain damaged, the more distressed you'll become, the WORSE your DP will get. If you SERIOUSLY believe your brain damaged, you'll NEVER come out of DP.

How many times must I say this STOP BEING STUPID. Do some SIMPLE logic.

The most COMMONG complaint, which is even state ON wikipedie and HUNDREDS is websites as a clinical report of depersonalized patients is that THEY THINK THEY HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE OR SOME MYSTERIOUS ILLNESS THATS NOT PRESENT!!

Hopefully you read this instead of being a typical 18 year old who thinks he knows the world.

Listen!

A bit harsh, but there is some truth here. I, for one, certainly believe damage is possible with MDMA as I've done it myself. I'm scared shitless of rolling now because of what it has done to me. Whether it is really brain damage or not, there's really no easy way to tell. You are right though when you say how such a condition can lead a person to believe they are more damaged than they actually are.

Perhaps it's a combination of less-than-ideal brain chemical levels, and then an extremely stressful (but not physically damaging) experience sent him over the edge. For example, you have a near-death experience like a bad car accident, plane crash, something where you are unwillingly put into a unusually stressful situation. Your body depends on it's brain chemistry to deal with said situations. If those chemicals are not in balance due to MDMA use, your body will not be able to trigger the appropriate response to the ultra stressful situation it is in, and it will take extreme measures to protect itself. Now, your body is sort of stuck in this weird defensive state, and it can take years to pull out of that state. However, it's not a permanent state and is very possible to pull out of. It just takes some serious convincing that you are, always were and will continue to be JUST FINE. :)

I feel like my body is still somewhat stuck there too, because I can relate to everything you say. I used to be A LOT worse, daily crying spells, begging to God WHY WHY WHY ME WHY ME, life seeming pointless, worthless, what's it all for? Why do we fight to survive, why do we do anything, what's the point, life is just grey and dull and meaningless and empty, dude I TOTALLY GET IT. The good news is this definitely goes away with time and patience!

I don't have any doubts that some level of damage occurred for the both of us, that is probably safe to assume. HOWEVER, the damage is very likely a lot less severe than you have lead yourself to think. I know, I know, I KNOW you feel otherwise, you are CONVINCED that bad damage happened and you probably are not going to let anyone tell you different. "You don't know what it's like." "You're not in my head so you don't know how I feel." "I read this, I read that, blah blah blah I'm fucked I'm fucked I'm fucked I'm fucked" NO YOU ARE NOT FUCKED. Our bodies and minds have amazing resilience and abilities to bounce back. Once you convince yourself that you are not as damaged as you once thought you were, you will gradually feel your symptoms subsiding. Even if you ARE severely damaged, what's the point in dwelling on it? It doesn't really matter honestly, because the damage will heal itself, just like a scraped knee, with time no matter what, your body will take care of that part automagically. YOU just need to focus on healing your psychological state, and moving on with your life, not letting this tear you down. You can either sit here and bask in misery, worried that you'll never be the same, OR you can put your foot down and not let one stupid little pill ruin the rest of your beautiful life, damage or no damage. It's going to be a gradual process, nothing happens overnight. Keep your chin up, stay here with us, and dude you'll be fine before you know it. :)

Just like you said, if anyone understands and relates to your situation, IT'S US!! =D
 
Somedud how can you possibly tell him that after what you've been through? You sound absolutely ridiculous.
 
Thizzin, what supplements have you tried during your recovery? I'm not saying my situation is same as yours but I went through a really bad bout with depersonalization that took months for me to feel like I begin to get over. Like I said my situation is a little different cause for me it was abusing mdma for years, and it was pure mdma, no pills no piperazines so I'm not saying the stuff that helped me will definitely help you. But have you tried piracetam, or curcumin with a lot of black pepper in your diet? Omega 3. Even Lion's Mane Mushroom, which I haven't tried yet but read about it on this forum.

I'm not sure if you were a binge drinker like me but as soon as I stopped drinking and started taking a vitamin b complex (which alcohol can cause a deficiency of) I could feel improvements. And taking protein shakes 1 or twice a day along with exercise helped a lot as well.

I wonder if I would have recovered like I did over the past 10 months without doing all these things, would I still be in that horrible mental hole I was around last new years. And I felt completely messed up, awful numbness, taking showers I could barely feel the water on me, the worst depression and anxiety I ever felt, weird tightness around my jaw that wouldn't leave even though I stopped taking stimulants, headpressure, just sitting in my room in front of my computer for so long not doing anything. Trust me, this stuff you're going through now isn't permanent.
 
^^ simply because we experienced our problems directly after MDMA, he never. He was FINE after all his rolls. Until a few weeks later he popped a PURE pipe, and tripped out for 18 hours.

Pipes aren't neurotoxicity, but they can be devestating to your psych, hence the reason he became dp'd.

He was fine after his MDMA use, unlike us. The blue rolex he took has NO MDMA in it, their straight up pipes.
 
When I was 18, I had my first full blown panic attack while smoking weed. I had smoked a dozen times before with no problem. I was convinced the pot was laced, and that I had brain damage. It took me many years to admit and accept that I had a lot of anxiety in my life, and that the weed didn't injure me, it just help facilitate the conditions that led to the panic attack. I was messed up for years. It's a tough time of transition in your life. Freaking out is understandable. I couldn't smoke for years, convinced that I would panic again. The world felt unreal. I had so much confidence before, and it was gone. I looked for help from doctors and shrinks, but ultimately I just had to find my strength within regardless of how damaged physically or psychologically I thought I was. I hope you find your peace soon.
 
^^ simply because we experienced our problems directly after MDMA, he never. He was FINE after all his rolls. Until a few weeks later he popped a PURE pipe, and tripped out for 18 hours.

Pipes aren't neurotoxicity, but they can be devestating to your psych, hence the reason he became dp'd.

He was fine after his MDMA use, unlike us. The blue rolex he took has NO MDMA in it, their straight up pipes.

Right. Because pipes cant be toxic at all.

everyone I have news! Piperazines are safe! Looks like all the pressers do care about us! :D
 
try some E or low dose of shrooms to stop the anxiety. make sure your addrenal glands are rested or u risk getting anxious. should work.
 
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Right. Because pipes cant be toxic at all.

everyone I have news! Piperazines are safe! Looks like all the pressers do care about us! :D

I wouldn't say pipes are safe, but I do think the issue thizzin' is having is largely psychosomatic. That doesn't make it any less unpleasant for him (I know how crippling anxiety/depression can be), but convincing himself he has brain damage is likely only holding him down. He had a scary, traumatic experience. That, as somedud said, can be very damaging to the psyche.

Anti-depressants are certainly a risky long term choice, but they can serve a good purpose. I'm glad I've been off of them for about a year. Every time I would quit taking em my parents/doctor would ask why, and I responded with "I'd rather feel sad than feel nothing". I looked at like this...I'm depressed, so I'm going to use the SSRI's to bring me into a more "neutral" or numb territory, at that point, I'm going to have to make serious changes in the way I look at and react to stress and other things, in order to actually feel happy. They're like a little step ladder, they serve a purpose, but long term use is just a band-aid fix that will cause more harm than good.
 
Thizzin, I can relate to your description of head buzzing. I can relate to your use of Bluelight as a way to reach out – i've been to doctors and they just don't seem to understand, and have never provided any advice comparable with what i've learned from this forum. And most of all, I can relate to the feeling that these should be the best years of our lives, but instead, we're suffering for stupid, irresponsible decisions. But that said, i've also realized that life is long, a lot longer than these years when we feel totally invincible, and I am just now starting to understand this misconception. I too am right now going through a recovery process from MDMA abuse. The last time I took ecstasy was May 6th, and since then I have been experiencing persistent headaches. They're hard to describe. A sort of pins and needles, very uncomfortable tingly sensation underneath the scalp. They fluctuate throughout the day and seem to come and go for no apparent reason.

Luckily, I can't relate to the feelings of “depersonalization.” My malady seems to be strictly physical, leaving my emotional and cognitive abilities unaffected (except for the anxiety caused by the headaches). That said, I do think that we are both experiencing the same recovery in differing manifestations.

I am starting to see minor improvements – they give me hope, but i'm still afraid I'm going to feel like this the rest of my life. Like many have said, exercise has helped. About four months into recovery, I signed up for a half marathon. The race is next week. I'm not saying everyone has to run a marathon to help the healing, but it has helped for me. It has given me a reason to do cardio several times a week, and I'm so excited to experience the feeling of crossing that finish line – even if the headaches persist and the healing appears marginal. The feeling of accomplishment, of working towards something you DO have control of has been really important to me during this process. Just a consideration. My other suggestion would be yoga. Yoga is an absolutely amazing physical and mental activity. If you haven't tried it, please do. I've noticed when I do yoga, I have never ONCE!! felt the headaches I am describing. Give it a shot, and let me know what you think. I was a total skeptic, but my girlfriend got me to go a couple times, and now I can assure you I will be doing yoga for the rest of my life.

Good luck with the recovery, and feel free to PM me anytime.
 
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