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Benzo's, sedatives and bad trips.

hiphophippy

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Are benzo's obtainable over the counter? I assume not since they are highly additictive?
what about sedatives will those help put someone to sleep having a very very bad dream?
lol I want to go tripping soon but I'm afraid I might go into a bad trip worrying about my newb freind having a bad trip. I'm only going to give him like a dose and a half but still. :( Do I have legal options as far as things to put him to sleep/calm him?
 
Nothing legal is good for this. OTC sleep aids are worthless for helping a bad trip - they're only useful for helping to get to sleep once the majority of the effects are gone.

Etizolam is an option - it's a benzo (well, not exactly - but it might as well be) that hasn't been approved in the US, and as a result is not scheduled in the US. The key with using benzos to treat a bad trip is to get the dose right. They won't counteract the effects of the psychedelic entirely (though they'll dull it somewhat), but they will help deal with the anxiety that is characteristic of bad trips. If you take too much, they'll be fucked up on the benzos - and still tripping - not an ideal situation. So keep the dose low if you give someone benzos for a bad trip. Soma (a non-benzo sedative used as a muscle relaxant) also works for bad trips in the same way that benzos do, and seems to dull the trip more than benzos do.

I'd just try to scare up some soma, diazepam, or clonazepam on the black market (other benzos will work as well, but I've found xanax and lorazepam, the other two common ones, to be less effective at dulling the trip.). Clonazepam is generally the least recreational and most perscribed benzo, so its one of the easier ones to get. I'd give him 10mg diazepam OR .5mg clonazepam/xanax OR 1mg etizolam with the option of a second dose of the same size (I wouldn't go beyond that - obviously the doses should be higher if he's got a benzo tolerance - the objective is not to get high off the benzo, but rather to just have it reduce the anxiety from which a bad trip arises), or, if using soma 350mg soma with option of second or third dose.
 
TheAzo said:
Nothing legal is good for this. OTC sleep aids are worthless for helping a bad trip - they're only useful for helping to get to sleep once the majority of the effects are gone.

Etizolam is an option - it's a benzo (well, not exactly - but it might as well be) that hasn't been approved in the US, and as a result is not scheduled in the US. The key with using benzos to treat a bad trip is to get the dose right. They won't counteract the effects of the psychedelic entirely (though they'll dull it somewhat), but they will help deal with the anxiety that is characteristic of bad trips. If you take too much, they'll be fucked up on the benzos - and still tripping - not an ideal situation. So keep the dose low if you give someone benzos for a bad trip. Soma (a non-benzo sedative used as a muscle relaxant) also works for bad trips in the same way that benzos do, and seems to dull the trip more than benzos do.

I'd just try to scare up some soma, diazepam, or clonazepam on the black market (other benzos will work as well, but I've found xanax and lorazepam, the other two common ones, to be less effective at dulling the trip.). Clonazepam is generally the least recreational and most perscribed benzo, so its one of the easier ones to get. I'd give him 10mg diazepam OR .5mg clonazepam/xanax OR 1mg etizolam with the option of a second dose of the same size (I wouldn't go beyond that - obviously the doses should be higher if he's got a benzo tolerance - the objective is not to get high off the benzo, but rather to just have it reduce the anxiety from which a bad trip arises), or, if using soma 350mg soma with option of second or third dose.
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I'm not really connected to the black market haha.
 
hiphophippy said:
I'm not really connected to the black market haha.
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Then how are you getting the acid? It's 100x easier for me to get benzos than illegal psychedelics... I assume you're talking about taking LSD, since it's the only one I can imagine where a "dose and a half" would be an appropriate for a first time tripper (since it comes in hits that are typically not enough for a proper trip)...
 
Benzos would be your best bet for reducing a bad trip, but they won't completely kill the trip. To do that you'd need an antipsychotic like thorazine (is this still in use?) or compazine. Although if you can't get benzos I don't know why you'd be able to get antipsychotics...
 
If YOU are having a bad trip a couple Etiz will ease the stress. You're not looking for sleep, so dont take any more than 2. You just need to ease the stress of a bad trip & 2 Etiz is very relaxing, will definitely help.

If you're mate's a bit naive, it might be handy to convince him that a glass of OJ will slow down a trip & can sometimes end a trip them. It's not entirely true, but if, before a trip you can convince your mate of this, he'll be much easier to calm down with a simple glass of OJ & you could always grind an Etiz into his OJ, but ONLY if he's REALLY have a bad one!

Never underestimate the power of a good placebo!
 
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