(Tramadol/325 mg) - Semi Experienced - Made me delusional

[xburtonchic]

I'm a pretty experienced opiate user - it's definitely my drug of choice. I'm on Suboxone now however, so true opiates don't affect me in the slightest. So when the doctor told me today that he was switching me to Tramadol (I have a concussion), I was excited. I remember the last time I took it, about a year back, and mixing it with my Suboxone and basically wanting to fly to the moon. I figured it would be the same this time around... but that is not what happened, at all.

Since I have a concussion, I'm not allowed to do shit. I can't go out, nothing. My orders are to sit on my ass for the next week. So naturally, here I am, bored and lonely and depressed, and there is a bottle of pharms just sitting there that could potentially fix that issue. I'd already taken two about two hours prior (didn't get me high though), for the headache itself. I took another two and a half about an hour after that (when I started wanting to get high), then when that didn't really do anything, I took three.

I should note that I had taken my daily doses of Xanax (1.5 mg) and Suboxone (2 mg), as well as two Fioricet (idk the dosage, but it's some sort of barbituate and is what I was given before the Tramadol... but I hated it, so he switched me over). I was also on the aforementioned drugs the last time I tried it, minus the Fioricet.

An hour later, I felt a very VERY slight rush of euphoria. However, it lasted for about 10 minutes and like I said, might as well have not even existed. I actually don't remember anything after that. I suppose I got restless at some point, because I ended up on the couch and started the trip at the computer in a different room, so I guess I got bored of the internet and went to sit on the couch... to watch TV? Pet my dog? Talk to my mom? God knows.

Either way, that shit made me pass the fuck out. Why? I do not know. Opiates... even synthetic ones like Tramadol... have NEVER done that to me before (hell, I take an extra quarter of Suboxone sometimes if it's a night where I need to stay awake because that's what they USUALLY do for me). My mom finally woke me up... I don't know how long later... and I was completely and utterly delusional.

First of all, I did not remember any type of dreaming when she woke me up, so this is not where this came from. But when she woke me up, the first thing I asked her was this:
Me: Did you ever find that site?
Her: ... what?
Me: (mentally berating myself for some strange reason for using the word 'site' instead of 'website'... no, I do not know the reasoning behind why I considered the word 'site' a felony at that point in time) Sorry, I meant, did you ever find that website?

At that point she started looking at me like she was really worried... like maybe she thought my concussion was getting worse or something. Of course, I knew the REAL reason why I was so delusional, so I pretty quickly told her, "Maybe I was just dreaming." And she agreed, "Yeah, I think you probably were."

Except I was not dreaming about that. If I was, like I said, there would be no reason for me to ask that question because immediately upon waking up I did not remember any sort of dreaming. I'm not sure I even did, because I don't think I ever reached the REM state (I still feel tired as shit). It was a light sleep, I'm pretty sure I remember waking up once or twice before falling right back asleep.

I was confused and having delusional thoughts for about a half hour after waking up. I kept thinking things had happened that actually didn't... like my mother looking for a certain website for example. It's been an hour since then, and I feel like absolute and utter SHIT. Very close to the way the beginning of opiate withdrawal feels - chills, nausea, achiness, fatigue - mixed with the shitty symptoms of opiate use - extreme itchiness and numbness in uncomfortable places, like my tongue. I took a Suboxone just now to see if it would help, hopefully it will.

The only thing I can come up with is that there was still a significant amount of barbituates in my system when I started dosing, and that affected my experience. I'll take more tomorrow without the Fioricet, but definitely not as much because I feel like even though it's a weak opiate, it was too high of a dose for all of the drugs I'm already currently on (drugs as in prescriptions). Or who knows, maybe it was a combination of that AND the Fioricet.

Either way, it was not a good time, and right now is most definitely an even worse time. Since when do opioids have freaking hangovers?

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[JBrandon]

Well you've got a whole cocktail of drugs plus a concussion going on there, so who knows what happened, but you don't have to be dreaming to say random shit when you are awakened. It happens to me all the time, whether I've used any drugs or not. They're called confusional arousals in the sleep medicine world, although that term usually gets used for more severe incidences. I can't really remember but I believe it happens when you're awakened from delta or stage 3 sleep, not REM.

Anyway aside from all that boring shit, I had an experience similar to yours from hydrocodone, benadryl, and xanax. The "hangover" was like having the flu. I think the opiate is the major cause, but the other drugs make the effect more pronounced.

 

[xburtonchic]

Well you've got a whole cocktail of drugs plus a concussion going on there, so who knows what happened, but you don't have to be dreaming to say random shit when you are awakened. It happens to me all the time, whether I've used any drugs or not. They're called confusional arousals in the sleep medicine world, although that term usually gets used for more severe incidences. I can't really remember but I believe it happens when you're awakened from delta or stage 3 sleep, not REM.

Anyway aside from all that boring shit, I had an experience similar to yours from hydrocodone, benadryl, and xanax. The "hangover" was like having the flu. I think the opiate is the major cause, but the other drugs make the effect more pronounced.

Haha that's exactly how I feel this morning... like I have the flu. I just straight up feel like shit, seriously never again. It was not worth it for a 10 minute "high". And now my memory is all messed up this morning, way worse than it was before. At first my short-term memory was just shitty, but now I just straight up am having false memories/am confusing dreams with real life. I didn't have those symptoms before I took all those Trams. :/ I just hope it goes away soon, it's freaking me out.

 

[xHippiexchildx]

i was on suboxone for 4 years, I never took tramadol though. I had heard from a bunch of people that the suboxone never blocked the effects. But nevertheless, I didn't want to fall into another addiction.

I wish my doctor would give me xanax. He is the type of doctor that's actually concerned about you getting addicted again, which makes my life hell, cause I can't get any good pharms when I really need them.

 

[Thou]

I'm guessing concussions and SNRI's don't go well together.

You'd think a trained medical professional would have figured that out for you and just gave you some codiene or something.

I'm sick of these baffooons in white lab coats insisting on prescriptions that are not necessary. It's all guesswork in a white coat anyhow.

I'd discontinue the tramadol as I've heard nothing but bad experiences from it.