Oxycodone - combinations, making the most of the high

[Psychonauticunt]

I just tried Oxycodone for the first time (and simultaneously also popped my strong opioid cherry, having previously only tried codeine and tramadol) - I took a 40mg OxyContin orally, crushing half of it to bits and swallowing the other half. I had a great time, and felt waves of euphoria, but now that I reflect I notice that while it was obviously far stronger than tramadol, it wasn't quite what I expected it to be, and I can think of a few reasons for that.

Just to be clear - I am not asking whether these will have affected the experience; I am asking how much.

- I took 15mg Dexedrine (dextroamphetamine) a little before the Oxy. I didn't even know I'd be getting OCs, otherwise I wouldn't have taken the speed.
- I had taken quite a bit of alcohol, also mostly prior to the OCs - not enough to get me drunk, but tipsy, definitely, and for thirst-quenching purposes I downed one more beer after the OC.
- I was at a concert and moving about.

I was a little alarmed by the (admittedly very brief and occasional) feelings of nausea and hot flushes, and I wondered if considering the strength of the side effects, the principal effects should have been more pronounced too. I know alcohol obviously adds to the unpleasant side effects, but to what extent (if any) does it detract from the opioid feel? Alcohol has always potentiated codeine and tramadol for me, but then again they're much weaker so they actually need potentiation, and I've heard of many people reporting that alcohol reduces the euphoria they feel on strong opioids. As for the amphetamine, I can understand it probably counteracted the sedation and need to nod off, but how much is that connected to the pleasurable effects? And finally, how much stronger or more evident are the effects of oxycodone if lying down stationary, as opposed to moving around?

I need some kind of indication as to whether next time I need to take more, or just be better prepared (ie. not already buzzing on God knows what) and lying down eyes closed instead of dicking about.

 

[Doug2113]

I dunno about dexedrine, but I know that when I used to smoke meth and then take/snort oxy, it seemed to take away some of the sedation and I didn't feel quite as "opioid-euphoric." I wouldn't want to be moving around quite so much on oxy, but I certainly wouldn't wan't to be laying down with my eyes closed. That's just asking to fall asleep and waste a high if you ask me lol. I wouldn't try taking more. If you're in a country where they don't use OPs (the pill will say OP on one side instead of OC), and they still have the OCs, I would just try crushing 3/4s of it and swallowing the other 10, or just crushing it all. I dunno if cutting it in half and leaving one half as-is preserves the ER formulation of the pill, but it's worth a shot. If need be just get a couple and redose-IN SMALL INCREMENTS MIND YOU-with bits and pieces of the second pill as needed to see what the optimal dose would be.

 

[laCster]

this website is not a "tool" for you to learn how to get the highest you can possibly get. in the spirit of HR, i say stick to oxycodone and don't mix drugs (kind of hypocritical i know )

 

[J.Wallace]

In my experience, the best way to get the most out of Oxycodone is to take it on an empty stomach and with a bottle of water. I don't like to mix it with other drugs, especially Alcohol or Benzo's. If you can get you're hands on an Instant Release 30mg Oxycodone, I'd suggest splitting it in half, and railing the one half and waiting 30 minutes till you rail the second half. Be sure to keep that bottle of water around and sip on it regularly. About an hour after snorting the second half I'd suggest getting a light meal in you're stomach, perhaps a salad or a piece of bread. The idea here is to just get something in you're stomach, get the gears grinding if you will.

Often times mixing drugs with Oxycodone leave me disappointed. Again, in my experience, the best way to appreciate an Opiate high is by itself, clean and pure.

P.S. Don't snort Pain Killers that have Acetaminophen in them. Always search online for the kind of pill you have before ingesting. Better to be safe than sorry.

 

[effie]

this website is not a "tool" for you to learn how to get the highest you can possibly get. in the spirit of HR, i say stick to oxycodone and don't mix drugs (kind of hypocritical i know )

This is very true. We don't cover threads on how to get you as high as possible, but we can help with how to get high safely.

(Also, haha laCster :D )

It's generally best to try things on their own the first time you have them, so you can gauge their effects properly as well as stay as safe as possible. It isn't a great idea combining CNS depressants; it can be dangerous so go very carefully if you are drinking with oxycodone and make absolutely sure you don't take a 3rd CNS depressant such as a benzo.

It may have just been that with the Dexedrine, alcohol and being in a busy environment you just couldn't notice the effects of the oxycodone as much as you would otherwise. I wouldn't try increasing your dose right away, I'd try it on it's own in a quieter environment, as you said.

How can we possibly quantify how much the other drugs and the setting affected the high?

 

[Oxide]

These things greatly affected the experience. This is sort of a subjective question, and no one can possibly tell you how or why drugs didn't affect you the way you expected, I'll give it a shot.

Stimulants of any sort, including caffeine, will affect how you are 'perceiving' the high. Avoid them altogether if you are looking to experience the "pleasurable effects."

Alcohol is more of a preference thing, I personally dislike it, as I feel it taints the experience. It is not to be overdone with opiates. Opiates are powerful drugs, and should be treated as such.

Lastly, moving around. This is a big one. Many people, myself included, find moving around while on opiates is a great way to reduce the euphoria and it's almost like it brings you out of the high altogether until you sit/lay back down. While you will still feel something even if you're moving around, if you're trying to really 'feel' it, you are going to need to kick back and fuckin' relax.


Lil Wyte said it best. "You gotta be up on yo P's an Q's to even feel it, man"

 

[BIGsherm7272]

I always found that eating a high-fat meal 45 minutes before my dose would greatly potentiate it.

 

[ravaged_eden]

Painkillers or Benzos & Alcohol = No. Always. Even if it's a small amount. Because you can really easily black out. Or die. I'm still paying off a disorderly conduct from months ago because I ignored my better judgement and had a drink after taking some pills. Try no to learn the lesson the hard way (easier said than done, I know!)

Other than that... IDK, I have no experimented with a high-fat meal like the previous poster, I usually actually try to have very light meals no closer than 4 hrs prior to painkillers in order for the portion that I take orally to hit me stronger, but that's just based on some advice I got a long time ago. I also find a small amount of weed goes real well and helps a lot with the nausea, just so long as you don't smoke too much and overpower your OC high. he hot flashes... well, you're gonna feel warm, there's no way around it. You just do. I find turning on a fan helps.

 

[BIGsherm7272]

Painkillers or Benzos & Alcohol = No. Always. Even if it's a small amount. Because you can really easily black out. Or die. I'm still paying off a disorderly conduct from months ago because I ignored my better judgement and had a drink after taking some pills. Try no to learn the lesson the hard way (easier said than done, I know!)

Other than that... IDK, I have no experimented with a high-fat meal like the previous poster, I usually actually try to have very light meals no closer than 4 hrs prior to painkillers in order for the portion that I take orally to hit me stronger, but that's just based on some advice I got a long time ago. I also find a small amount of weed goes real well and helps a lot with the nausea, just so long as you don't smoke too much and overpower your OC high. he hot flashes... well, you're gonna feel warm, there's no way around it. You just do. I find turning on a fan helps.

The lipids in the food actually make your body absorb more of the oxycodone, as is also the case with oxymorphone.

 

[Psychonauticunt]

How can we possibly quantify how much the other drugs and the setting affected the high?

This is sort of a subjective question, and no one can possibly tell you how or why drugs didn't affect you the way you expected...

A couple of you said the above... and then proceeded to do exactly what I asked:

Stimulants of any sort, including caffeine, will affect how you are 'perceiving' the high. Avoid them altogether if you are looking to experience the "pleasurable effects."

Alcohol is more of a preference thing, I personally dislike it, as I feel it taints the experience. It is not to be overdone with opiates. Opiates are powerful drugs, and should be treated as such.

Lastly, moving around. This is a big one. Many people, myself included, find moving around while on opiates is a great way to reduce the euphoria and it's almost like it brings you out of the high altogether until you sit/lay back down. While you will still feel something even if you're moving around, if you're trying to really 'feel' it, you are going to need to kick back and fuckin' relax.

Obviously I'm not looking for a clear-cut answer in terms of how much, exactly, in quantifiable terms, they affected the situation. Having said that, it is blindingly obvious that they will have had SOME effect. I wanted some kind of qualitative, descriptive analysis of YOUR personal experiences in similar situations - ie. opioids in combination with different settings and different drugs.'
Is this not generally the case with drug discussion anyway? You can NEVER quantify the effects of something, especially on another person. Everyone has different reactions to drugs. However, it is still useful, in my view, for harm reduction purposes to compare experiences to get some kind of gauge on how much certain things typically affect the high. If the general consensus here were that they affect the high only marginally, I would probably consider taking more oxycodone next time. As it stands, I will probably take the same amount with less of the other shit.

Anyway, thanks for the replies everyone.

PS. I am very aware that CNS depressants do not mix well, and was cursing myself for already having drunk quite a bit when I got the OCs.

 

[effie]

Glad we helped (and sorry if I offended you, I have to mention the CNS depressant thing, this is a HR forum and I have no idea how much a poster knows ) I definitely think it is worth trying the same amount in a different setting before you up your dose.

I can see the HR value in knowing how to get the most from your drug - it decreases the amount of drug you need - and therefore potentially what you need to do to obtain the drug - prevents you from trying a dangerous combination and also prevents you from moving on to a more dangerous ROA (you in general, not you personally, psychonauticunt. Great name btw!)

I'm going to close this as you've made up your mind what to try, but if you would like it re-opening shoot me a pm