Cheer me up, please?

theking.

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i did a shot of tar on saturday and my goal was to stay clean untill next saturday, i want to stop being dope sick and i just wanna be a "chipper" and just enjoy dope one day a week, so it doesnt rule my life. monday i felt ok tuesday night my withdraws peaked i could barely sleep, and today i was fine so i convinced myself that it was ok to use today :\ so im a failure. i've been using for about 5years now. i have been using tar daily for 5months iv. i just felt like venting cuz i feel like crap, if this doesnt belong here just move it where ever, i just figured this was the place, because most people on here are either iv users or were in the past. honestly i dont even know what i what out of this thread, i guess just say stuff?
 
I just got a text from a really close friend. Last month, I talked to him, and his job and his school and his girlfriend were all wins and he had been clean for about three months I think. I truly thought he had risen out the heroin. Just now, the text says he started using again and within a week, the job, the girl, and the place to stay were all gone. He's living in the streets. I am really afraid for him. How is it possible that the heroin won out over a really good life?
 
We all fall back into using at some point, its really hard to stay clean. I was clean for months until I went out and got myself something one faithful night and by the end of it I didn't feel any better.

- I knew I was fucking up when I made the call
- I knew I was fucking up when I got in the car to meet the contact
- I knew I was fucking up when I met the girl and handed over the cash.
- I knew I was fucking up on the ride home
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- I knew I was fucking up when I didn't stop after the first line and railed half the stash in one go.
- I knew I was fucking up when I did the rest.

But I didn't care at the time, and the entire time, I just felt like shit. There was no warm feeling, there was no itchiness (which I actually enjoy), there was no feeling of well begin. There was just me, cold and lonely with my drugs and a wallet that was a lot lighter. >.>

Had to start all over from square one.

Try not to look at this so much as a failure, look at it as a minor trip on your walk to becoming a non-user. It took me several fuck ups until I finally managed to pull myself out of the addiction. Even now, I crave it, I think about it, and I'm liable to go out and buy/use it. I still fuck up...but at least now I have more respect for it and can recognize it sometimes before I hand over the cash or make the phone call.

I know its hard...its going to be. You can get that monkey off your back, you just gotta have the will to do it. So you fucked up, big deal, get back on your feet and try again. The day you stop trying is the day you have no hope of ever recovering.
 
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...and today i was fine so i convinced myself that it was ok to use today :\ so im a failure.

One piece of consistency in this struggle to stay clean from opiates (and I've been using for nearly a decade now... so much wasted time, money, opportunity...) is that I *never* have to remind myself of the reasons to not pick up when I'm in active addiction. Life, the life that I'm using to escape from, is all so murky, so in-my-face-pathetic, that to ask myself why staying clean is so important is like asking which way is up - the answer is just so fucking obvious that I don't bother to grasp with the question. Only when I do get and stay clean, when the pieces have been picked up and life begins to reassemble itself, do I find the powerful need to be constantly reminded of what I am recovery from/for. Because it is in those moments of fresh light that I become over-confident and I begin to really listen to my brain - by now, a well-disciplined practitioner of self-deception - contrive all these fantastically wonderful and nonsensical reasons, simplifications and justifications for my behavior.

I don't feel as if reading your post was a waste of my time, and if it helped to clarify what are very real and very recent events in your life, I say more power to you. My one recommendation is that you reconsider posting this type of material in the focus-forum "The Dark Side," it is also a very excellent place to surf and explore what others such as yourself might have said on the same or similar issues. You'd be so intensely amazed at how TDS is in so many ways like a digital NA Meeting, just minus the real-time nature of it all.

...but back to your post. Life is attitude, and if you continuously approach it with the attitude that you are a failure, you may end up catering to that attitude, use opiates on the basis of that attitude, and ultimately turn your feelings of failure into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

i want to stop being dope sick and i just wanna be a "chipper" and just enjoy dope one day a week, so it doesnt rule my life.

Don't allow me to put ideas in your mind for you, but consider that this ideation may be just that - a fantasy, in the context of your life and personality. It's a complete fantasy for me in my life, and I'm not fucking clean at all right now, nor do I have to be to make that statement. But once I realized that this was the dream for myself that compelled me to keep on keeping on... one on which I so have, time and time and time again, unduly rested so *many* of my life's keystones upon, it became that much easier to change the foundations of my troubled thinking.

I'm not trying to accuse you of being a junkie and saying that you can't ever just use again. But if you're anything like I am, if I were to use "just once a week," I know I'd spend the whole rest of the week putting in a tremendous amount of time, effort and self-torture in order to keep it that way (i.e., just ONCE) that I'd *never* in a million years be able to enjoy myself while actually getting high that one time. "Oh my gosh, I'm so excited, I made it a week, here we go, I'd really better make this one COUNT!" to "Shit, this feels awesome but I don't know how I'm ever gonna make it another seven days... I mean, I never told myself I could just use literally one time per week, maybe I could make it one session, which to me really feels like an all-day event, so hold up I'm still coming up but let me contact dude to pick up enough to last me through tonight. Yes, this is a good idea, it'll give me a lot more incentive to try and make it all week this upcoming week, so if I DON'T do it this way, then I'll DEFINITELY go back to being an all-our junkie.

^^^This is based on my own personal way of thinking; needless to say, it doesn't happen *that* quickly, but in a matter of weeks I would have somehow convinced myself that I was able to be an all-around user again and that my aspirations, as great as they were, just weren't going to happen for me so I may as well shoot for something I could manage. When sobriety is all I've ever needed to excel - I had three years clean from drugs and alcohol from ages 20-23 to prove that to myself.

Don't lose faith in the person you really are when the thick film from the drugs is removed.

Thank you for posting this. I say if you have questions are want to comment further on your own thoughts to come back here and do so, I wouldn't mind reading it!

~ vaya
 
You don't suck. Heroin is one (if not) of the most <snip>. Once you've tried it, you always remember how it felt. I recently relapsed as well, breaking promises to myself and others. You just need to always keep in mind that with this high comes withdrawals and other potential consequences and ime it causes me to reatreat from society and life itself. Those are the thoughts that keep me under control, I've been through hell and back because of dope and I don't plan on going through that again. It's a very very addictive and hard drug to use responsibly, best of luck though theking. Don't let the urges and the demons in your head get to you and allow you to use repeatedly, maybe find another recreational drug that can take away these urges if possible
 
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VAYA- that was a great post...the idea of that circular thinking "why would i bother trying to clean..my life sucks" kept me, and alot of people im sure from taking the leap. I too was a "well disciplined practitioner of self-deception" The self-decption and the addiction def. have a really powerful and warped symbiotic relationship in my messed up head.
i wrote a post somewhere recently about that fantasy (if your a real ADDICT) that you can just "cut back" because its just not gonna happen..I know recreational users certainly might be able to incorporate that "balance and moderation" thing into their lives (im so jealous of that) but, i think for someone who is really an addict its just not going to work.
Thekiing-youve been using for 5 years and thats quite enough time for your whole mind and body to have gotten so used to having that substance to lean on that...i really think if you want to stop you need to get treatment...I tried to quit so many times, but EVEN after the pain of the physical withdrawls have faded you have to deal with the mental stuff.
I will tell you, if you are an addict, that if and when you decide to get help its pretty scary, i too tried to "cut back" because it was just to much for me to process just NEVER doing anything again....for me it felt like i lost my best friend when i quit!
AND your not a failure..just talking about it here is going to help you..
I found bluelight when i was deciding to get help..and it really was great just to know that other people had gone through the same thing. your not a failure! your being overpowered by the addiction.
I finally got help when the supply in my area started to dry up..and it was like hell..i would be sick for two days, then i would be using for thee, then maybe sick for one, high for one..it just became completely unbearable...so i finally just sucked it up, got help and i know when you read this you would believe it because i SURE as hell didn't when i read it last year..but life will get better, its not easy..but seriously....i dont need to use! am i still an addict? For sure..but now i run, like obsessively, i dont know if there will ever be a day i dont need "something" to make me feel better, but for now running is fine with me
I dont know you or how much your using or how you feel but the thing that helped me was suboxone combined with therapy...I tried unsuccessfully to quit quite a few times prior without the suboxone and it just didnt stick..
Again, im not preaching..what worked for me might not be right for you but please dont beat yourself up about using again...i finally realized "i have NO control over this" and thats when it finally stuck..there may be some that can go back to just the "once or twice a week" deal..but if your are an addict i think thats just a dead end. I wish you the best of luck,
 
its insane how many people try using H just once in awhile with all these posts.

Either A. You use once in awhile and your fine.
or B. You can't control your use and use to often.

You can not go from B to A. Sorry. If you got a problem your not going to get over it and become a casual drug user all of the sudden. Your either a once in a time kind of person or a abuse it kind of person. Except it.
Quit. Or get on methadone or suboxon
 
^ thank YOU! very concise B back to A does not work! but there always seems to be a post, or someone replying to to a post i write regarding that exact same thing that debates and says "well, thats just your experience yada yada yada" but if you are an addict there is NO way in HELL you can just use once and awhile...A thread like this one i have to reply too because this guy still has a small window(maybe..?) to make the right decision and it just makes me sad to think there is someone out there right on that ledge....i hope he makes the right decision....i never thought there was a price to pay! but guess what the magic fades..and the price is steep and you can loose ALOT. its not worth it
 
its insane how many people try using H just once in awhile with all these posts.

Either A. You use once in awhile and your fine.
or B. You can't control your use and use to often.

You can not go from B to A. Sorry. If you got a problem your not going to get over it and become a casual drug user all of the sudden. Your either a once in a time kind of person or a abuse it kind of person. Except it.
Quit. Or get on methadone or suboxon
The truth
 
You yourself are not a failure. You did not achieve the goal that you set for yourself this week; that's all. It's up to you to pick a goal that is realistic based on your situation. If you experience strong withdrawal after a couple of days then attempting to use once a week would require you to be able to experience the discomfort without getting high.

Take an honest look at what using heroin once a week would involve. You'll still be around your connections. You may have to fight cravings 6 days out of 7. Or you might not. Whether you want to be or not, you're still part of a certain culture without allowing yourself to be fully immersed in it. If the lifestyle/culture is part of what you seek in heroin use, then using occasionally might not provide what you want even if you able to do so. I'm not saying you can't; just that it's up to you to figure out what you can/can't do.

Regarding the idea that it is impossible to reduce consumption, this is false. There are people that do so and there are studies showing that it is effective for some people. This is not a matter of debate or opinion. There is no benefit to spreading ideas that are not supported.

It may seem like I'm nitpicking over words but the idea that it is impossible has a huge impact on the understanding of what addiction actually means. If it's impossible for 100% vs. it's impossible for 99% of the population, that completely changes the nature of what addiction is. Impossible is a very big word.
 
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You aren't a failure. Cutting down and quitting H is no easy task, you're brave to even try. You can't expect to get it your first time. just keep going, you'll get to where you want to be.
 
^THIS^ You are NOT A FAILURE. You're just a person addicted to H. Happens to the best of us, believe me. Don't equate a condition of your life with who you are. Who you are is precisely what will get you through this, so don't start to believe you are weak or bad or worthless or all the other bullshit that we want to fall for out of shame and guilt and vulnerability. H is no joke. You just start now reminding yourself that you're gonna cowboy up and handle your shit. You'll get through it okay. I can tell by your post that you can beat it.
 
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