About 4 months ago i was at the peak of my codeine addiction, i was taking a minimum of 400mg of codeine a day (about a pack of Panafen Plus +10 pills). Unlike some of the smart addicts on this website who utilized cold water extraction to remove Ibuprofen and paracetamol...i however was a moron and did not!
And i didnt think i had a problem, till i was noticed by family members as i stole money, hocked things around the house and went out "shopping" which consisted in visiting every chemist in the surrounding suburbs! And coming home with no money and 6 packs of codeine goodness!
Well after living like that for a year and a half i started getting serious problems, cramps 24/7, not being able to crap for a week at a time...just to name a few problems. My family stepped in and my gf dumped me, well i started to go see Psychologists to try and work out the problem. I was seeing the Psych for around a month or 2 but all her tactics for quitting werent working, i tried quitting cold turkey countless times...getting to about day 2.5 before the cramps, sweating and BONE PAIN got the best of me...i went back to using full throttle, 15 pills a go minimum.
I did some further research online and found the "Centre for addictive Medicines, Sydney"...i went there and they did a whole battery of the normal tests, blood, urine, the works. Well they found my liver was thankfully in tact and not damaged (though i probably have ulcers). The suggested 3 possible routes, the 1st was to quit cold turkey and take various pills depending on which symtoms i got (valium for anxiety and stress, various pain kills for my back and teeth) basically i was gunna be on like 5-10 different pills (not to good fore my liver) and not only that; and this is the ironic bit, i cannot swallow pills....yes i was addicted to a pill but cannot swallow them...
I use to crush them up and mix with water and drink the whole poison lot of it down! A lot of the medicines i would need to take cannot be crushed as it impares their effectivness, someone who is scared of swallowing pills doesnt wanna worry about getting all of them down every single day for months at a time!
Option 2 was Buprenorphine...specifically Suboxone. Option 3 was Methadone (we all felt this was a bit drastic) so after talking with my family over the matter for a few days we chose to select Bupe (Suboxone) treatment. They juggled the dosage around before settling at 16mg a day for a while...but then things got worse, i started getting mega cravings again after being sober (on the bupe) for 2.5 months...i used again for a few days. I went back to the doctor and explained everything and he put me up to 24mg a day for 3 doses, and then if i was stable to move up to (and sit at) 32mg a day for a while.
Well im now at 32mg and the cravings are here on a daily basis, my backache which was nearly cured at the start of Bupe is now back in full force (i suffer from lower; and soon to be proven, upper spine Scoliosis - which is where the bone actually begins to curse putting pressure and causing massive backaches).
Apart from the cravings being very bad at times (today i took an extra 8mg sub film for a total of 40mg today) and i feel STILL like i need to use and my back is horrivble, ive tried things doctors have offered for the back such as Ibuprofen and a bombardment of other things whichy didnt work! I went to see a pain specicialist but was screwed around and never got to see an actual doctor there! Ill probasbly need surgury on it actually in the near future!
Anyways i was recently a few weeks back transfered from the Sublingul pill form Sub to the film version, the film actually takes LONGER to dose i found due to it acting like toffy and drying my mouth out...its taken me 45mins at times to dose the full 32mg....
Anyways i rang my case worker today and told him i wish to get OFF Suboxone maximum dose, and be put onto a SMALL, but Adaquet dose of Methadone! He isnt realy liking the idea too ,uch but im seeing him and my prescribing doctor tomorrow and talk about it. I wish to go on Methadone small dose so 1. I can just drink it like a shot glass of wiskey and go about my busniess (not sit there for 30mins hoping i dont swallow as to not waste the dose) and 2. So i can get the cravings undercontrol again. Methadone would also work as a great pain med for my spine problems...even though the case worker said they arent helping me to fix my back...it still would work in that respect!
I want something i can just drink in 2 seconds and go about my business and/or job without wasting so muuch time dosing! Even with the 4 take homes a week i get i still need to sit like an idiot not talking nor swallowing just to get the full affect of the drug which againt even fully covering me anymore...i just thing Methadone sounds much more appealing to me and ni hope i can convince my doctor as such!
P.S: Yes i know everyone on these forums get up in arms when someone admits to being on "just codeine" but the pain and cravings are more then real, and if 32mg of bupe isnt doing me good (even as much stronger then codeine it is) i need something different! Because i know if my doctor doesnt agree to the methadone thing, ina few months ill probably relapse again...and if i dont kill myself by accident from all the ibuprofen and paracetalmol first...ill just end up on something heavy like heroin for sure or coke! Because at the peak of my addicting the codeine at massive doses was doing nothing for me, the next step would be heroin and im scared to death of the idea!
Id rather be ridaculed as an idiot for being on Methadone for codeine, then relapse and end up with a codeine addiction that leads to a full blown heroin shooting up addiction!
Thanks a lot! Stiff!
And i didnt think i had a problem, till i was noticed by family members as i stole money, hocked things around the house and went out "shopping" which consisted in visiting every chemist in the surrounding suburbs! And coming home with no money and 6 packs of codeine goodness!
Well after living like that for a year and a half i started getting serious problems, cramps 24/7, not being able to crap for a week at a time...just to name a few problems. My family stepped in and my gf dumped me, well i started to go see Psychologists to try and work out the problem. I was seeing the Psych for around a month or 2 but all her tactics for quitting werent working, i tried quitting cold turkey countless times...getting to about day 2.5 before the cramps, sweating and BONE PAIN got the best of me...i went back to using full throttle, 15 pills a go minimum.
I did some further research online and found the "Centre for addictive Medicines, Sydney"...i went there and they did a whole battery of the normal tests, blood, urine, the works. Well they found my liver was thankfully in tact and not damaged (though i probably have ulcers). The suggested 3 possible routes, the 1st was to quit cold turkey and take various pills depending on which symtoms i got (valium for anxiety and stress, various pain kills for my back and teeth) basically i was gunna be on like 5-10 different pills (not to good fore my liver) and not only that; and this is the ironic bit, i cannot swallow pills....yes i was addicted to a pill but cannot swallow them...
I use to crush them up and mix with water and drink the whole poison lot of it down! A lot of the medicines i would need to take cannot be crushed as it impares their effectivness, someone who is scared of swallowing pills doesnt wanna worry about getting all of them down every single day for months at a time!
Option 2 was Buprenorphine...specifically Suboxone. Option 3 was Methadone (we all felt this was a bit drastic) so after talking with my family over the matter for a few days we chose to select Bupe (Suboxone) treatment. They juggled the dosage around before settling at 16mg a day for a while...but then things got worse, i started getting mega cravings again after being sober (on the bupe) for 2.5 months...i used again for a few days. I went back to the doctor and explained everything and he put me up to 24mg a day for 3 doses, and then if i was stable to move up to (and sit at) 32mg a day for a while.
Well im now at 32mg and the cravings are here on a daily basis, my backache which was nearly cured at the start of Bupe is now back in full force (i suffer from lower; and soon to be proven, upper spine Scoliosis - which is where the bone actually begins to curse putting pressure and causing massive backaches).
Apart from the cravings being very bad at times (today i took an extra 8mg sub film for a total of 40mg today) and i feel STILL like i need to use and my back is horrivble, ive tried things doctors have offered for the back such as Ibuprofen and a bombardment of other things whichy didnt work! I went to see a pain specicialist but was screwed around and never got to see an actual doctor there! Ill probasbly need surgury on it actually in the near future!
Anyways i was recently a few weeks back transfered from the Sublingul pill form Sub to the film version, the film actually takes LONGER to dose i found due to it acting like toffy and drying my mouth out...its taken me 45mins at times to dose the full 32mg....
Anyways i rang my case worker today and told him i wish to get OFF Suboxone maximum dose, and be put onto a SMALL, but Adaquet dose of Methadone! He isnt realy liking the idea too ,uch but im seeing him and my prescribing doctor tomorrow and talk about it. I wish to go on Methadone small dose so 1. I can just drink it like a shot glass of wiskey and go about my busniess (not sit there for 30mins hoping i dont swallow as to not waste the dose) and 2. So i can get the cravings undercontrol again. Methadone would also work as a great pain med for my spine problems...even though the case worker said they arent helping me to fix my back...it still would work in that respect!
I want something i can just drink in 2 seconds and go about my business and/or job without wasting so muuch time dosing! Even with the 4 take homes a week i get i still need to sit like an idiot not talking nor swallowing just to get the full affect of the drug which againt even fully covering me anymore...i just thing Methadone sounds much more appealing to me and ni hope i can convince my doctor as such!
P.S: Yes i know everyone on these forums get up in arms when someone admits to being on "just codeine" but the pain and cravings are more then real, and if 32mg of bupe isnt doing me good (even as much stronger then codeine it is) i need something different! Because i know if my doctor doesnt agree to the methadone thing, ina few months ill probably relapse again...and if i dont kill myself by accident from all the ibuprofen and paracetalmol first...ill just end up on something heavy like heroin for sure or coke! Because at the peak of my addicting the codeine at massive doses was doing nothing for me, the next step would be heroin and im scared to death of the idea!
Id rather be ridaculed as an idiot for being on Methadone for codeine, then relapse and end up with a codeine addiction that leads to a full blown heroin shooting up addiction!
Thanks a lot! Stiff!