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Methamphetamine: really not such a bad drug

That's where the psychosis comes In, from the sleep deprivation, not the meth

Nope. It's the drug. People can have psychotic reactions to methamphetamine right after dosing, even having slept the night before.

I'm not saying sleep deprivation doesn't cause psychosis; it can, but the drug itself also causes psychosis.
 
I have used amphetamine and little meth over 10 years and never have had dependency problem. Thing is I get so hypersexual that I download and watch porn for 3 days without sleep or if its possible I visit 10 different escorts and have sex for 4 hours with each one, how can you get addicted to drug like that? I just stop and don't touch it for 1-35 months. Last time I used amphetamine and meth for 2 months 4 days runs and 3 days break for opioid WD's, only times when I think about doing them is when I watch porn, thats the only time that I ever have had "cravings" toward amhpetamines. I got so tired of watching porn that I don't even want to think about amphetamines. For some people amphetamines are the most addicting drug. I get addicted only to drugs that make regular life better, I mean that I can do stuff like normally, with stimulants it's out of question, its only about porn and sex, can't do anything other. Opioids and pregabalin are the addictive drugs for me, I never watch porn or have sex while on them.

I've only snorted and plugged amphetmaines, few times I've smoked crystal, it's nice experience, but nothing that I have feeling to do again.

This is a very interesting point. i wonder if that's why you might not get addicted, because your mind and your body knows you cant stay in that state forever. I know for myself after a particularly long bender, I am excited to go to sleep. A meth high is not sustainable. On heroine, i wanted to constantly be on heroine, felt like I COULD constantly be on it.

Addiction relies as much on the individuals body and brain chemistry as it does the kind of drug.
 
I smoked meth everyday with my girl for about a year and a half. It was great for like 8 months and then eventually we said fuck it, didn't get the next tee, slept for two weeks and now we're off. Kratom & coffee helped
 
Not everyone that enjoys meth recreationaly end up addicts. If you can understand and appreciate the drug you will use it not abuse it !
Its not hard to keep your self in check its called not being mentally weak .
Please. Ignorant much.
 
^ agreed. If you need to say something like "not being mentally weak," you really lack an understanding of how meth becomes so addictive for so many people in the first place.
 
Not only that. Having an addictive personality has more to do with brain chemistry and genetics than anything else. I can't stand that high horse talk because you don't have it.

Anyway if you're so responsible and fabulously 'mentally strong' why do you need hr advice anyway? To make others feel guilty for having issues with impulse control?
 
Dextro-methamphetamine.hcl is far preferable to today's racemic Mexican street d/l-meth. The levo isomer competes with the dextro and ends up interfering with its action. The difference is staying up 2 to 3 days conceivable max versus 5 to 6 days per session. Do some gardening? #mahuang
 
Mexican meth definitely isn't racemic. If it's coming from pseudoephedrine it's not racemic.
 
This is a very interesting point. i wonder if that's why you might not get addicted, because your mind and your body knows you cant stay in that state forever. I know for myself after a particularly long bender, I am excited to go to sleep. A meth high is not sustainable. On heroine, i wanted to constantly be on heroine, felt like I COULD constantly be on it.

Addiction relies as much on the individuals body and brain chemistry as it does the kind of drug.

Indeed, it also feels very unsatisfying always, no matter how long porn or sex binge you are in. No wonder that in some countries they call meth crazy drug because that what it makes most people, like me.

Not only that. Having an addictive personality has more to do with brain chemistry and genetics than anything else. I can't stand that high horse talk because you don't have it.

Anyway if you're so responsible and fabulously 'mentally strong' why do you need hr advice anyway? To make others feel guilty for having issues with impulse control?

I've got addicted to opioids and really bad to pregabalin, but I never have got addicted to amphetamines, I can easily refuse them even if they are free, if I don't feel like doing. I like them in other way but other way I hate them, I just end up doing one thing (which is usally porn) and listenint music, really nothing, I can be up for 4 days and only doing these, they are very enjoyable, but it feels like I never get enough satisfaction from them. So I do enjoy doing amphetamines recreationally in some way but not like opioids or pregabalin, they have always been my DOC. Also I know many people who haven't got addicted to them, but they use only dextroamphetamine not meth, so it not so addicting. Speed is dirty drug that would do only sometimes, cocaine in hteo therhand feels much more natural stimulation.
 
If you're taking dextroamphetamine, you're not doing meth or anything even close, pharmacologically related yes, but nothing even in the same category IMO. Meth is quite a dirty drug indeed, IMO. Though, I'm sure many people here would be more than willing to disagree with me. Dextroamphetamine is an ingredient of adderall/ADHD meds, not meth. It is pharmacologically related to meth, but it's a bit more "user friendly" so to speak as it's a very common prescription drug. Obviously, this doesn't mean it is free of side effects. It's addictive as well (though not as badly as meth), and for some people, it is extremely addictive. Theoretically, if you took enough of it, the drug could have similar side effects as meth but not unless you were doing a very large amount of it.

Meth is actually prescribed for a few people, in very controlled dosages. However, if you are doing meth that you purchase illegally, there's the risk of adulteration which is commonplace with it. I hate to recommend one drug over another because as you'd expect not using stimulants is better for your body than using them (unless it's your own script), but if you're using stimulants in order to enhance performance or any other reason that would cause a logical minded person to be drawn to them, you'd be way better off sticking with prescription stimulants of some kind rather than taking meth. At least, you'd know what you're getting and while it's addictive and has side effects that can be nasty, it's nowhere near as bad as meth is.

I used to take adderall sometimes before I had a script for it myself, but there's no way I'd ever touch meth with a 10 foot pole personally. Way too much potential for things to go wrong from what I heard. I've known a few people who did meth, and the story never ended well unfortunately. People get addicted without realizing it, and it can have serious side effects including loss of teeth and everything else you've heard about it. Meth is a drug to stay away from IMO.

Also, getting your stuff from a source that originates from North Korea doesn't sound like the greatest idea. I've never heard of anyone doing that, so I can't really say from firsthand experience obviously but it sounds like a really bad idea. Hell, being a hardcore methead is probably less dangerous than getting drugs that from NORTH KOREA. To be honest, I kinda wonder if you just made that part up, at least I hope you did..... for your sake. I've heard of stuff coming from Mexico and a lot of other countries and have smoked plenty of schwag myself over the years that came from all sorts of other countries and obviously took/smoked tons of stuff where I didn't know where it came from and never really cared either, but wouldn't even consider anything that I was aware of as having come from North Korea. Especially when IME there's plenty of drugs of all types around that aren't "North Korean" as you said.

If you do use meth despite the risks, I would strongly advise that you limit your usage to a very occasional basis. It is highly addictive. As or more addictive than opiates, and it's a nasty addiction. Perhaps, even nastier than heroin many have said who used it regularly or had family members who did. If you use it regularly, you can actually get psychosis if you don't sleep well. And if you're doing it, always make sure that you sleep and take good care of yourself (especially dental care). People do lose their teeth from meth and it's not an urban legend but taking good care of yourself would likely reduce the chances of this happening. Though, I wouldn't want to chance it personally. Keep your use of it very occasional or better yet don't use it. But yes, it is true that stimulants can increase memory and other aspects of performance in anyone, but meth not generally as much due to its extreme potency and the possibility of adulteration. The negative effects of meth vastly outweigh the positive for nearly everyone who uses it as far as I know.
 
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That's another example of government propaganda. I've hung around in meth circles for years and have literally never met anyone even close to as bad as the propaganda makes it look. Yes meth is bad for you, but in my experience no worse than adderall, there is research to back this up. Ime meth felt cleaner than adderall ever dreamt of.
 
That's another example of government propaganda. I've hung around in meth circles for years and have literally never met anyone even close to as bad as the propaganda makes it look. Yes meth is bad for you, but in my experience no worse than adderall, there is research to back this up. Ime meth felt cleaner than adderall ever dreamt of.

Interesting. Perhaps, it's the route of administration that makes the difference. Personally, I've snorted adderall a number of times (when it wasn't prescribed to me) and also a couple times even when it was. I found that snorting very much changes the experience. Much more of an up and down effect, whereas the crash is usually mild to nonexistent when I take amphetamine orally. If I snort, I usually end up needing a nap later in the day as I'm crashing. This usually doesn't happen with taking it orally. Snorting also seems to produce much more intense effects at the time (which is why I've been known to snort from time to time to boost the effects). I usually don't snort much, just like a 3-5 milligrams or so to get my "buzz" going while I'm in the shower then take the rest by mouth. On extremely rare occasion, I'll just take the whole pill and rail it but usually not. I will say though that times that I have railed the whole pill I would get a brief "rush" of energy that I wouldn't get as much when I took it orally. Overall, I prefer taking it the way it's intended as opposed to snorting. However, I can see how snorting on a regular basis may be somewhat of a different animal to some extent. I don't know. Everyone I knew who did meth snorted it as opposed to taking it orally.

I wouldn't be surprised though if it's similar if one was doing a side by side comparison where the doses and route of administration was the same and there were no adulterants in the meth of any kind. Pretty crazy if that's true that meth is actually no worse than a prescription medication that I've actually taken for quite some time (even before I was actually supposed to be taking it). The government lies constantly and one of their favorite things to do is spread rumors about drugs, so in a way this doesn't surprise me...... yet I always assumed meth was in a similar category as heroin in terms of danger level but perhaps I'm mistaken. Wouldn't be surprised as it's a drug that I have had zero personal experience with and simply got my info on it from people who had a "problem" with the stuff and quit.
 
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I snorted at first, not long, my nose is shot from years of coke and pills. Then started smoking, if it was good dope it was a very clean high, shit dope was more jittery. The main problem with meth is you don't care and you don't take care of yourself, which takes a toll
 
@Lands: meth is pharmacologically very similar to amphetamine, although somewhat distinct at the same time. For all intents and purposes though, they're practically interchangeable despite meth being subjectively more euphoric. Meth has been used for the same purposes as amp - AD(H)D, obesity, wakefulness promotion etc. Desoxyn is prescription meth that is sometimes used in medical settings.

The inherent differences between meth and amp aren't nearly as large as it may seem at first glance, especially given propaganda. Some even claim that meth is better as a medicine than amp is.

Not to downplay the potential dangers of meth, more to say that amphetamine is a much more hardcore drug than it seems at first given how it's "prescription medicine, which makes it good and safe!".
 
I'd say meth has far more abuse potential. And with heavy abuse, one tends to deteriorate at a quick rate.
 
If you're taking dextroamphetamine, you're not doing meth or anything even close, pharmacologically related yes, but nothing even in the same category IMO. Meth is quite a dirty drug indeed, IMO. Though, I'm sure many people here would be more than willing to disagree with me. Dextroamphetamine is an ingredient of adderall/ADHD meds, not meth. It is pharmacologically related to meth, but it's a bit more "user friendly" so to speak as it's a very common prescription drug. Obviously, this doesn't mean it is free of side effects. It's addictive as well (though not as badly as meth), and for some people, it is extremely addictive. Theoretically, if you took enough of it, the drug could have similar side effects as meth but not unless you were doing a very large amount of it.

Meth is actually prescribed for a few people, in very controlled dosages. However, if you are doing meth that you purchase illegally, there's the risk of adulteration which is commonplace with it. I hate to recommend one drug over another because as you'd expect not using stimulants is better for your body than using them (unless it's your own script), but if you're using stimulants in order to enhance performance or any other reason that would cause a logical minded person to be drawn to them, you'd be way better off sticking with prescription stimulants of some kind rather than taking meth. At least, you'd know what you're getting and while it's addictive and has side effects that can be nasty, it's nowhere near as bad as meth is.

I used to take adderall sometimes before I had a script for it myself, but there's no way I'd ever touch meth with a 10 foot pole personally. Way too much potential for things to go wrong from what I heard. I've known a few people who did meth, and the story never ended well unfortunately. People get addicted without realizing it, and it can have serious side effects including loss of teeth and everything else you've heard about it. Meth is a drug to stay away from IMO.

Also, getting your stuff from a source that originates from North Korea doesn't sound like the greatest idea. I've never heard of anyone doing that, so I can't really say from firsthand experience obviously but it sounds like a really bad idea. Hell, being a hardcore methead is probably less dangerous than getting drugs that from NORTH KOREA. To be honest, I kinda wonder if you just made that part up, at least I hope you did..... for your sake. I've heard of stuff coming from Mexico and a lot of other countries and have smoked plenty of schwag myself over the years that came from all sorts of other countries and obviously took/smoked tons of stuff where I didn't know where it came from and never really cared either, but wouldn't even consider anything that I was aware of as having come from North Korea. Especially when IME there's plenty of drugs of all types around that aren't "North Korean" as you said.

If you do use meth despite the risks, I would strongly advise that you limit your usage to a very occasional basis. It is highly addictive. As or more addictive than opiates, and it's a nasty addiction. Perhaps, even nastier than heroin many have said who used it regularly or had family members who did. If you use it regularly, you can actually get psychosis if you don't sleep well. And if you're doing it, always make sure that you sleep and take good care of yourself (especially dental care). People do lose their teeth from meth and it's not an urban legend but taking good care of yourself would likely reduce the chances of this happening. Though, I wouldn't want to chance it personally. Keep your use of it very occasional or better yet don't use it. But yes, it is true that stimulants can increase memory and other aspects of performance in anyone, but meth not generally as much due to its extreme potency and the possibility of adulteration. The negative effects of meth vastly outweigh the positive for nearly everyone who uses it as far as I know.

Like I said been smoking very pure crystal meth from good source, was really a blaze, after that I have only snorted it with dextroamhpetamine mix. I really don't enjoy it that much, It's terrible that when you take one hit, you cant pretty much sleep next 24 hours and as after 6-12 hours you need to take it again soti amkes you stay aeake even more longer, very easyt to be awake 5 days without knowing it. crazy shit .It will lead almost very long binges without sleep. yes it feels much more euphoric and lasts so much longer, I really don't enjoy it anymore, I would choose dextroamphetamine over meth anyday. But I do understand that smoking or IV'ing meth is the reall addictive way to use. Taking orally the side-effects will great reduce, or even snorted, but its still not worth the extremly long duration and its the only from meth I get comedows almost never from normal amphetamine. I would not do it again, I don't have even any craving after doing it maybe around 10 times, smoked crystals only maybe 4 times, just because there wasn't regular speed or coke.
 
been smoking everyday for past few months. Been on it about a year used to take seldom breaks. But now have 2 jobs hold them down well, sleep every night even after the evening bolo session. Eat a shyt load thought the day, and nobody knows im on it, they think i quit and in reality im doing more but actually taking care of priorities and my health now (besides twisting bowls through the day). I dont lose my shyt like most as they come down, i just smoke a cigarette and some green goddess and just go on with my day. If I get more I get more, but i know a lot of friendly people lets just say that. I feel as if you don't let the drug do you and you know you are ultimately in charge of your mind body and actions anyone can injoy the pleasure of meth. Why wouldn't someone want to be happy and full of energy no super person would ever amount to. There has to just be habits you don't break, like eating, sleeping, and top quality hygiene
 
Does anyone use methamphetamine like i do?

been smoking everyday for past few months. Been on it about a year used to take seldom breaks. But now have 2 jobs hold them down well, sleep every night even after the evening bolo session. Eat a shyt load thought the day, and nobody knows im on it, they think i quit and in reality im doing more but actually taking care of priorities and my health now (besides twisting bowls through the day). I dont lose my shyt like most as they come down, i just smoke a cigarette and some green goddess and just go on with my day. If I get more I get more, but i know a lot of friendly people lets just say that. I feel as if you don't let the drug do you and you know you are ultimately in charge of your mind body and actions anyone can injoy the pleasure of meth. Why wouldn't someone want to be happy and full of energy no super person would ever amount to. There has to just be the good habits you don't break, like eating, sleeping, and top quality hygiene. If you also use like this how long did/has it last(ed) until you had issues or turned to a stereotypical addict pawning all belongings and not living without chasing the high. I have been addicted for a long time now but i used to be the one chasing the high, but now i know life and the people in it are more important. So i hold down my weekly construction job of 60+ hours and a weekend job of 20+ hours and don't plan on losing them due to not getting high one day and having to chase it. I do smoke .5 a day or more and live the same as a sober living member of society. What are your thoughts or opinions on the subject?
 
It is a hard balancing out to use any addicting substance daily but if it is working for you then great. I prefer to save stims for special occasions like once a month or once every other month so the magic is always there but what do I know...I have to take a benzo just to get through a work day due to anxiety issues so I'm not exactly a good example of sober living. I also battle opioid addiction albeit a mild one.
 
I was once an abuser of xanax and percocet, at least 4 or 5 days a week. But once I gave uppers a go in high school I never looked back on the pills. Taking Xanax often made me feel as if i had crazy social anxiety if i wasnt taking them. But i will say daily life on methamphetamine makes life easier, i think thats what people get addicted to, it's a fake version of life. And i know that, and accept the days I have to live the plain version of life without substance support.
 
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