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Unbiased opinion on Meth

bitchamonth

bitchamonth

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Im reading so much bullshit about methamphetamine and how only once can fuck you up and make you addicted, but that is plain horeshit to me.
Everything is bad if not in moderation. LSD, water, chocolate, coffee.

Anyway, could someone please give me their experience on meth and if they became addicted or not.
 
im coming down from 150mg smoked, before lastnight i hadn't used in 5 weeks. I dont think addiction is ever a guarantee. If you respect the drug, and use it in moderation, retaining a low tolerance and keeping away from IV use.

I guess i can't say that's true 100% of the time. It seems like some people are bound to end up hooked on something.

But as for me, and all of the friends ive discussed this with, its easy to keep your use in check as long as you approach the situation with that mindset. The first time i did it i got it from a friend of a friend and i had no idea where the shit was coming from so after that, despite wanting to use, it was months before i found it again, and just then i realized that keeping your use well spaced out was really the way to go.
 
I have just recently started thinking about trying it.
finally someone that doesnt use the meth is death phrase. thank you.
just as I had to filter out all the bullshit surrounding lsd and weed, I guess I have to filter out all the bs surrounding meth as well.
any reason IV is a "no no", besides the risk of infection and shit. I have read that IV increases the risk of addiction, any reason why? personally?
what would be a moderate and good timeframe to space the doses you think?
 
Plenty of people have become addicted to meth.. do you really need confirmation on that? Meth is incredibly addicting.. especially when IV'ed because that ROA provides a rush, that people chase, and causes compulsive redosing on a level way greater than any other ROA.

Does everyone who trys meth become addicted to it? No.. of course not. But a lot of people do. It's a drug that has ruined a lot of lives.. simple as that.

If you want to use it, know and understand the risks, and make a choice.. just like with any drug.
 
If you don't IV drugs than you shouldn't start with methamphetamine... Needles bring on a whole new level of addiction and pleasure and it's just not worth it if you get your kicks via other ROA.... Stay safe and stay informed.
 
I mean, LSD and weed are different than meth, though. meth is still dangerous, if not for it's addiction potential, then just for what it physically does to the body. If you do too much meth, you'll put strain on your heart, like with crack or coke, and if you're not careful, usually for several months/years, you can really fuck up your body. It's not a one time deal, unless you go way way overboard, but it still should be respected.

IV's supposed to give you a stronger high but I don't have any experience. And I did amphetamines/speed, not meth, but they're chemically very similar, and moderate use is possible, it's just that the side effects are pretty hardcore if you take it to the extreme...

if you've never been into speed before, it's not a good habit to start up. I've been a speed freak before for a year and a half and I only stopped when my sources dried up - wasted a lot of money on that shit...
 
MDMA was my first drug at age 20, and boy was it a lovely one. The euphoria generated a whole new meaning of life. Looking for something that came close to that while not doing as much damage, I found meth. Don't get me wrong, it does damage, but not as bad as MDMA as serotonin receptors are way more sensitive. I do one dose on one day on the weekend, have been for about 5 months or so. Usually in the morning after I go to the gym, as it still lasts all day for me. I started off taking it orally, but my preferred ROA is plugging (the two safest ROAs with the longest high and easiest comedown, which I have yet to experience because I eat plenty and drink water on it), 99% bio availability say what! Anyways, I eat extremely healthy especially when I'm high (whole foods, lots of super food vegetables, lots of bananas), stay cool, don't do anything strenuous, and drink plenty of water.

I don't have the urge to do it every weekend, I just do because I have nothing else to do and its a nice escape from reality. If someone made plans or there is a family event or what not, the thought of doing it doesn't cross my mind. I haven't noticed any damage from my by the book use but who knows. If it did start to do noticeable damage (bad mouth, weight loss, inability to work out throughout the week) I would surely give it up in a heart beat. I have never felt the urge to pick at anything or went crazy as I force myself to sleep at night. Hence why I take it in the morning. If you are responsible with it then there is no reason why it can't be less damaging than all the pesticides, stress, or radiated water that pollutes our lives.

Have respect for drugs and they will treat you well. There are things more dangerous than even the most damaging drug. Its all about control and responsibility.
 
Meth is an amazing high, regardless of ROA. The first time I tried it was 100mg insufflated and after that I had no need to wonder how people become addicted. I used it about 20 times after that, albeit sporadically, but realized that despite possessing what I consider to be superb self control with regard to drugs, this was not one to push the limits. Only ever smoked and snorted.

My father was an addict for around 15 years, and he told me in my late teens that no matter how strong you think you are, meth is stronger. Although it didn't keep me from dabbling with it, that advice is why I stopped completely. My father had a period of sobriety for two years, but alas, is back to hitting the pipe. He is severely ashamed of it.

My paternal uncle has been an addict for 25+ years, and is the reason my father got involved with crystal. My uncle is an IV user. My father is not. I once asked my father why he didn't IV. "It can't be that much worse can it?" His response to that question was a quote of advice from his brother, my uncle.

"The reason you stay clear of the needle isn't because it's that much worse, but because it is infinitely fucking better. If I ever find out that you've shot, I'll break your hands so that you can never do it again."

Both of these men's lives are in shambles. My father, though, is lucky enough to be able to hold a job some of the time. My uncle is a career the if and hustler.

I really hope this anecdote, and the honesty that my family members displayed to me on the subject, helps you really consider and think about this drug. It is no joke. It is no dream.

Meth is a living nightmare.

(This is as unbiased as I am able to be. But I feel that these words are worth sharing in light of the decision you are trying to make.)
 
Be careful. I never used it and there's a reason for that. I knew people who did use it (both as active users, and people who are addicts but stopped using it), and they all told me to stay far away unless I wanted to totally ruin my life, mind, and my body.

Meth is highly addictive and I know people who have been addicts for decades and they're still not sober or clean since they get pulled back into using it on weekends, when they're depressed or stressed out, or when someone else has some and offers it to them. They have told me to stay away from meth since it will ruin your life and if they could go back and undo one thing it would be using meth and continuing to use it regularly. Some started using high doses of speed or amphetamine in the early or mid 70s and then got into meth in the late 70s with pharmaceutical meth, and then later crank/crystal meth in the 80s and 90s. A lot became homeless because of meth or because their family or a person they were in a relationship with had enough of their drug use and kicked them out. The people I know who were into IVing it all said how doing this ROA was very bad for them. Many died from it, or severely damaged their bodies beyond healing from IV meth. Meth is really bad for your dopamine levels/receptors as well as your organs besides your brain.
 
Yeah meth is great if you are careful it can work out ok. Most of the biggest arguemnts against it are the addictive properties. Personally I researched it in detail properly before trying a year ago and have never used once a week but that would be a binge, 1-4 days, mostly over the weekend to finish the bag as 1g is min to buy and i dont want to have leftovers to tempt me during the week. Never used it daily or got "addicted". But thats because I did my reseach and planning beforehand.

I also think meth is physically addictive or causes dependency and physical withdrawals, or at least not as bad as other drugs (not sure often see conflicing info on this, so its more the psychological addiction you need to worry about. I never got any withdrawals after meth use, even 4 days straight. I also dont find it useful for daily usage which might be what saved me and addicts so many others, the fact that its so functional for useful for everyday use.

So my year long usage was easily managed to once a week and never got worse, its even down to once or twice a month only now, when my main buying trigger catches me, being to drunk. I never desire or consider bying it sober, or any other stims, always been that way for some reason, which is lucky for me as long as i them manage alc usage which im currently getting off at the moment.

So yes its possible as proven by myself, but everybody is different, lifestyle, body reponses, circumstances will all have an influence. Oh and only snort and eat it to make it easier to manage, all bets are off with smoking and IV.
 
No. You will not become addicted after your first try -- the drug needs time to actually physically alter your brainmind.

I myself am a methamphetamine addict. Cliche' as it is, I'd recommend you just keep away. On the best of days, my habit makes me feel miserable. On the worst of days, I feel a grim, overpowering terror -- my core freedom has been compromised, my personality corrupted. I look and feel sick, and I am losing old friends. It's Hell, but I can't stop using.

It's not a fun gig, pal.

Still, if you're gonna use, you're gonna use. None of us can convince you otherwise. No one comprehends the pain or respects the seriousness of addiction til they're addicted. I didn't.
 
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Read some of the meth induced threads that were posted today if you want an unbiased opinion of meth.
 
Yeah and besides the addiction issues which i mentioned, there are other issues as well, like the duration and multi day binging and health risks etc. Its not really worth it. For me it was for a while but the novelty has worn off and its just not the same anymore, the side effects, anxiety and comedown also make it not worth it. Right now i basically dont do it regulaly and only when i fuck up, get to drunk which then always triggers stim cravings.
 
Just be smart about it. To begin with, binges are stupid. Enough said. You are nearing critical levels of possible damage the longer you keep going, all the while never reaching the same high as day one of the binge. Do enough to last all day and just go with the flow. Why settle for half-ass, while possibly doing damage, when you could wait at least a week and get extremely close to the same effects the previous use. Make sure you eat whole foods, organic if possible. Its really not that hard to force yourself to eat if you know that you actually should be eating. This and not sleeping are the biggest damage dealers. Easily preventable. Stay hydrated and if you can't sleep, lay down for a few hours to allow your body to rest. Exercise and continue to eat healthy in between uses and it can be an enjoyable experience each time. I've never really had a comedown following these rules. Oh yea and oral hygiene. From my research meth mouth is found more so in chronic smokers but the biggest contributor is the lack of saliva flow. Brush and floss.
 
Yes, you will find you have no interest in food, drinking water, showing, teeth, or doing anything contructive at all, and you may not even get the mental reminders for such things. Or even moving can be a problem, ive sat in front of my pc for like 12 hours due to the focus. Also keep an eye on your bladder and shit levels manually on a regular basis. These mental notifications can also take a big drop in concious priority and be quite painful once you notice.

I just drink a lot of beer all the time for hydration and sustancae, which has a lot of water in it and also some materials used in food/bread production (so food is covered as well in terms of meth logic), which will satisfy your crazed meth logic and priorty failiures. Rather have some actual water and random premade food objects if available and then vitamins, mostly multi and your chelated magnesium.

Eating is hard because making the decision to eat something feels like deciding to go through all the effort for something utterly undesirable and pointless at the time. Your brains new task priority system reward vs effort and time will make this difficult to actually take action or even make it be forgetten for a day or two,

However when you force it in your face it goes down easily and you can tell your body wanted it, and taste is enhanced like other senses.

What works for me is grabbing some bananas quickly. This is far easier to get approved for fast action as the break in focus is shorter on whatever you would normally be doing like the activites on the drugs top priority list. So probably porn, or harrassing/spamming formus or IM contacts or watching movies or series and other similar activities that have been analysed to ensure they dont result in any actual productivity or value to your day or life.

I wish I could work on meth, but i can only get as far as sending long pointless unrelated and embarrassing emails to business contacts. And perhaps on creative or writing type stuff. But working on meth is dangerous when you deal with customers, because the euphoria drastically increases your desire to be nicer, better, do more for them and usually results in making stupid promises or sending new ideas solutions to issues that wont make any sense. Generally meth and communication with the outside world is not recommended.
 
I have a problem deciding what you people say is bullshit and what isn`t. I mean masturbation is fucking amazing, I would argue Im addicted.
bad example i know, but
I cant even imagine how I will think after I try it. Will it be like the stereoptypical, just one more time, and one last time, I mean one last time after this.

NOT EVEN ONCE.

I read these three articles:

http://neurocritic.blogspot.de/2011/11/meth-really-isnt-that-bad-for-you-or-is.htmla
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsu...ng-youve-heard-about-crack-and-meth-is-wrong/
http://www.theonion.com/articles/meth-actually-not-that-bad-for-you-report-doctors,31319/

they were resopnsible for my sudden interest in meth.
what about all kids who take Ritalin, Adderall and Dexedrine.

If someone approaches meth use with moderation and responsibility, just like you would with LSD, Weed, coffee etc, how much harm can be done, if any? and common normal meth doses?
 
Absolutely, any problem can be solved or situation managed correctly as long as you have the necessary information, abilities and plan of action including how to mitigate every risk.

Thats what I did and it worked.

I personally consider addiction something you take or do on at least a daily, can have negative side effects or some reason why you would ideally not want to do it daily, and would have difficulty or reasons why you couldnt stop immedietly. Now with this definition jerking off would be excluded as an addiction needs to be for something that should ultimately not be necessary or beneficial to you long term or causing short term issues for you somehow. Many things could fall into this like maybe pron in certain cases where it might effect relationships, or jerking off even if your doing it at work and risk loosking your job. But your daily cup of tea or your daily vitamins wouldnt be.

Secondly the other addiction i like to avoid and consider seperately would be dependency that can cause withdrawals. So yes, my weekly meth usage is prob still an addiction but not a daily one and something i consider personally as acceptable and a calculated risk or managed addiction.

But taking dependecy causing drugs daily is something I would never want to do unless there where health reasons, but rec benefits would not be an acceptable calculated risk for an opiate or benzo dependency for me personally.

I have a big problem with docs giving kids amphetamines daily, I dont understand it, even if its not a dependence causing drug, its a nice gateway to meth. Plus im not convinced about ADD diagnosis. An actual test on dopamine levels should be required for any situation where ADD might be diagnosed and amps considered for treatment
 
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I just drink a lot of beer all the time for hydration and sustancae, which has a lot of water in it and also some materials used in food/bread production (so food is covered as well in terms of meth logic), which will satisfy your crazed meth logic and priorty failiures. Rather have some actual water and random premade food objects if available and then vitamins, mostly multi and your chelated magnesium.
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Dude...beer/alcohol dehydrates you - it's a diuretic. As for yeast (presumably?) content in beer - that's hardly food.
 
^ really? Besides shooting meth?
I've seen alcohol, benzos and a host of other more socially accepted drugs make people act in crazily uncharacteristic ways.
Amphetamine psychosis...well that's a different story altogether.
 
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