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Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread (getting the most out of your pods)

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ahm, try downing a quart of vodka infused with morning glory seeds and ganja.

seriously: after doin that when i was 15, i can drink anythin.


oh and if you want a "good opiate high",
grow some poppies, harvest some opium and eat or smoke that.
i eat it fresh out the plant and it burns a little, but its such a small mass that it's no problem to swallow and keep down.
 
The_Idler said:
2. if you mash it up and down a bit with the plunger on your cafetiere first,
the remaining liquid is pretty much worth nothing.

Thanks. That's what I figured. I assumed the little bit of liquid in the pulp wouldn't be significantly more potent, but I wanted to make sure.

Anyone have an answer to my other question?

Does adding calcium carbonate to the mix really effect it's potency?

It seems to me that this is not the case. True, it will raise the pH, which is a step in making the morphine fall out of the liquid... but like others have said, isn't that pointless if you are making tea? Wouldn't you not want the morphine to fall out? Unless, of course, calcium morphenate (?) is more potent or has a higher bio-availability somehow?

I just want to make sure throwing a few Tums into a tea won't magically make it significantly more potent.
 
What do you guys think about vaporizing either the raw resin or dried (ground up) pods?

I have a volcano vap that does a very good job --
 
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raw resin is not worth it grounds would just be a waste of pods

with a little work and a fridge you can refine it , do a search on ice extraction technique
 
Pillthrill said:
EHH! I don't get it, I do the preperation like others have and it doesn't work! Add heat or don't.... grrr why did it work for others?
I'm afraid that it will make me throw up even if I don't eat the plant material. I took morphine in pill form once and I got sick. Tramadol makes me sick now... jeez why is it so hard to get a good opiate high?

Puking on pod tea isn't anywhere near as bad as you'd imagine. In fact, it is probably the least unpleasant substance I've ever had the misfortune to vomit. I don't know if this is specific to me but the actual mechanics of the puking were far more streamlined than alcohol-based puking or alternatives.

There was a clear warning, then two or three strong coughs (minus the mass of saliva/stomach juices that I normally get with alcohol) and the pod tea did a good job of projecting itself out of my stomach and into the toilet bowl.=D

I'm not going to lie to you about one thing - pod puke that gets stuck in the nose really smells/tastes (smell is contributory to taste after all) horrible:( - you really want to get that crap out ASAP.



on a brighter note - I only puked when I took stupid doses, specifically when I redosed whilst nodding (why? Just plain why Spellman???).


So, take 2 or 3 giganteums and grind them to a coarse, near-powder state - more 'flake' than grain. Boil a kettle of water but stop it a short time before the water actually boils and bubbles like crazy. Put the ground pod material in a pyrex jug, add enough water to fill a standard sized mug + a little more.

Microwave at the 700 watt setting for 15/20 minutes. You may need to stop the process every 5 minutes if your jug is too small, and stir - I've had a few mishaps that resulted in a microwave/kitchen that smelt of pod tea for several days.

Strain the green goo through a fine mesh tea strainer and leave to cool for a few minutes. Drink half, perhaps have a cup of juice (I recommend pineapple) to help with the taste. Wait at least an hour (preferably more) then drink the other half if nothing is happening.

You could be getting old pods or even the wrong strain (I credit you with too much intelligence for that but wanted to put the idea out there).

When you do find a method that works, you'll get to the stage where you look at the liquid in the pyrex dish after cooking and you'll know if this is going to be a strong brew.
 
I was throwing up once a week from Tramadol and illness, I think I'll avoid it.
I think me and ppt won't be friends.
Is there such a thing as "bad pods" what would cause that?
 
jykkE said:
This process was told to me by a friend who used to deal with PPT very regularly and refined by me. I've done it a couple times and seems to have good results.

Morphine, as an alkaloid, is not water soluble!

Codeine is slightly water-soluble, -- this is why poppy tea works. You're essentially drinking a lot of codeine water, but getting very few of the other alkaloids, and most importantly, very little morphine. This not fucking cool. Fortunately, the remedy is simple.

In Southeast Asia, the process of turning opium into heroin start with a basic morphine extraction which is done using lime (calcium oxide), slaked lime (calcium hydroxide), or limestone (calcium carbonate). For profitability reasons, groups usually use cheap chemical fertilizers containing these chemicals, but of course you don't want to go dumping fertilizer into your tea.

But, where do we get those chemicals? Well, they're all forms of calcium. In fact, calcium carbonate is the main component of many calcium supplements -- look for it on the label/description. Bottom line? Powder up calcium carbonate supplements, add them to your very lightly boiling tea, stir, and then filter off the poppy gunk for huge win. This step will convert the water-insoluble morphine into water-soluble calcium morphenate, meaning your plain old codeine tea turns into supercharged morphine and codeine tea. Keep the tea, throw away the plant matter, and enjoy. All for not too much more than your normal tea process.

Even more effective than calcium carbonate is calcium hydroxide. It can be toxic at very high doses, but is commonly used in the food industry and is safe in the very small amount we need. You can find this very cheaply online with a simple search, and if you're going through the effort of finding and buying pods, you should go through the easy step of buying a cheap, legal product to further potentiate the tea.

If you are just making it for yourself or a couple buddies you should just stop here and be satisfied.

But for those who are bored with PPT, feel like making some cool stuff, and want to go a step further, there is yet another cheap, readily available ingredient you can add, along with a couple steps, that can be used to actually extract raw morphine. I'm going to withhold exactly what it is so as to not give step by step instructions on how to extract and purify morphine, and please don't go try and test random chemicals either. Even if you know what you are doing, it's a certain chemical and you're probably not going to just randomly get it right. You have to know what it is. It's out there, by name, with some other instructions on a certain poppy site describing the manufacture of my favorite drug :).

Take the calcium morphenate solution, filter the poppy mess as normal and then add this ingredient. The mixture is stirred over low heat to dissolve the recent addition completely. It is then taken off the heat, and as it sits and cools, over the next 1-2 hours chunks of morphine base will precipitate out (fall out)of the solution and settle to the bottom. The water is then siphoned off (solution is toxic now) and then filtered to make sure all the water is out. The remaining solids are scraped out of the both filter and the pan, collected, and set in the sun to dry.

The resulting course, coffee-colored, powder is crude morphine base, ranges between 50-75% purity, and can be safely consumed. This can be easily refined further (converted to morphine hydrochloride) to increase purity, and if you really wanted to, you could do another simple step or two after extracting and actually cook up some heroin. Converting the morphine base to Hcl isn't required before this, but doing so will increase purity. The next step would produce ~70% pure heroin base which then could be converted to the Hcl.

I decided that it was best not to include either the ingredients needed for the extraction or the process required to synthesize heroin from the extraction to try to keep this within the rules. I figure that while the rules don't allow synthesis discussion, the process I outlined above involves changing the makeup of the tea so the morphine alkaloids become water soluble, potentiating the tea greatly. This is written for making enough for just one sitting and not some sort of mass production, which is another reason for leaving out the exact details on extraction.

Everything needed are legal products (groups that make something as proliferant as heroin have the means to make it in the first place, right?) and can be bought both online and in stores, but I don't know exactly how keen mods would be with me explaining the exact details of morphine extraction and/or heroin synthesis in your kitchen. Its a simple process, but probably illegal (the end product is for sure) and there still is room for error that can cause damage or death to 13 year old girls who fuck it up and and fail.

For the home user, being able to drink the morphine tea will be fine and a nice change to the plain old tea. It only takes maybe a few minutes more than usual to crumble the calclium carbonate/calcium hydroxide, add it to the poppy gook water over low heat, stir it long enough to make sure you get everything, then strain as normal and drink.

I would like people to try to refine this process further to extract the other alkaloids, as I'm not sure if they are getting extracted either. There are about 35 of them, including thebaine, which is an essential component in the manufacture of oxycodone, oxymorphone, and buprenorphine. This makes it very interesting and sought-after to someone wanting to get the most they can out of the poppy.


When the tea is boiling, what poppy pod gunk do you filter and where does the morphine go? Will it be in the water or extracted with the calcium to something else
 
How many pods XXL size (little bit smaller than tennis balls) would it take to get 20mg of morphine, Or I should ask, how much morphine to large pods produce pod for pod, I know theres no exact #, but I'd like an estimation, also
I am currently W/Ding from OxyCodone, Would this help, or would this just make it worse in the long run?
 
Prelude2TragedyII said:
How many pods XXL size (little bit smaller than tennis balls) would it take to get 20mg of morphine, Or I should ask, how much morphine to large pods produce pod for pod, I know theres no exact #, but I'd like an estimation, also
I am currently W/Ding from OxyCodone, Would this help, or would this just make it worse in the long run?
It's really hard to even give a good estimation, although the general consensus seems to be that p. somniferum are typically 5-15% morphine in their alkaloid content. With absolutely no opiate tolerance, I got some significant euphoria/nod/warmth off of 8 XXL pods with no potentiators. Then again, I'm a rather large person (weighing in at 250lbs/113kg, 6'3"/190cm) which kind of gives me an inherent, albeit kind of negligible, tolerance.

If you are trying to get off of oxycodone, I'd recommend talking to a buprenorphine or methadone treatment specialist.
 
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I think i read a ballpark estimate of 5 mg somewhere of course it varies hugely

also if your pods are fresh they will be 2 as potent as dried ones


also i noticed industrially grown pods(ie store bought goes for dried and fresh) have nothing on pods that are found outside wonder why


ps. im so happy my florist got me a bunc h of fresh chicks and hens , great stuff



and on topic . the most bang for your buck method of taking poppies is putting them in a blender with some grapefruit juice and chug the result
 
Im a rather skinny person 6'0 and 145.
I have a 25-30mg oxycodone tolerance.
I would guess that 5-6 pods would give me quite a small buzz or hold off w/d.
And I was curious as to if you could refine the solution to make it pluggable, I've made poppy seed tea with 2lbs of seeds (and 1lb) , and my stomach produces unbelievable cramps, (Same for me with Most all opiates,hence why I plug them most of the time, plus it adds to bioavailablity)
Anywho, Any info in making this product more refined (so you dont have to plug a few ounces of water, lolol) would be much appreciated, thank you.
 
when i cut em off plants theres about 10mg in the fat ones.


half it for dried.
 
f13nd said:
When the tea is boiling, what poppy pod gunk do you filter and where does the morphine go? Will it be in the water or extracted with the calcium to something else

It will be extracted w/ the calcium.

To others in the thread, yes, if u heat the ground up pods you will get all the morphine and everything else. But i'd rather not go through all the trouble of eating all that nasty shit.
 
Curious, how do you basify the tea to make it ready to plug?

And when you're making the tea, do you empty the seeds out before putting the pod in the coffee grinder?

Does hot water really make a difference? I thought you were supposed to used cold water , since morphine is destroyed at a relatively low temperature....

and how long should you aggitate the mix for , or do you just let it sit in the water

(I'm used to making PST, would making poppy pod tea in the same way be effective?)

can I let it evaporate to plug it?
Anyone know the effectiveness of this?
 
Merged: Ultimate poppy pod tea thread (getting the most out of your pods)

So here's the deal. Tomorrow I have work at 7am :p and I am currently going through withdrawal from oxy addiction. It becomes very difficult to function at work when I'm junk sick and if I miss work one more day I'll probably be fired. Which CAN"T happen or I am fucked.

I have some poppy pop tea. and I want to have it ready for tomorrow morning so I'm not late. Being late would be another way I could be fired. Therefore, I want to make it tonight and let it sit overnight. Is it cool to just leave it out, room temp, uncovered? covered? Or should i refrigerate? Is it bad to microwave shortly to heat up before drinking tomorrow, or will it affect potency? I was searching the forums and didn't see anything about preserving poppy tea for future consumption. I was curious to know what the best way to do this is...cuz I've left a mug with a little tea left sitting out for a few days and noticed it picks up a nasty scent after a while so obivously thats bad. But is overnight cool? And just wondering, how long can it last? i only got one more dose left so I don't wanna fuck it up. thanks.
 
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Just treat it like a food item man. Don't leave it out for flies to land in it. stick it in the fridge, covered or something. not hard.

You left a beverage made from improperly pasteurized uncleaned plant matter, left it out, and everything in there started to grow. lol. Thats what happens.
 
jykkE said:
Even more effective than calcium carbonate is calcium hydroxide. It can be toxic at very high doses, but is commonly used in the food industry and is safe in the very small amount we need. You can find this very cheaply online with a simple search, and if you're going through the effort of finding and buying pods, you should go through the easy step of buying a cheap, legal product to further potentiate the tea.


How mudh hydroxide do you use? in a typical pot of tea?

thanks
 
This calcium stuff sounds kind of dubious

i read somewhere that the calcium in milks makes the stomach absorb opiates less efficiently
 
currently making tea, using double boiler , and added some lemon juice for acidity , I will be evaporating it at a low temperature to get a small ammount of solution to plug

(Morphine is about 20% more soluble rectally, so , might as well give it a shot)
 
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