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Recently I've begun investigating the relatively little-known substance commonly called phenibut. It's most often classed as a nootropic, and it bears some relation to benzodiazepines. I really enjoy its effects a lot, though it took me a little while to realize them for what they are. I find it to be an excellent mood enhancer, truly excellent, and anxiolytic, though it's not something I'd consider recreational. This is coming from someone who generally dislikes GABAergic drugs, including alcohol, GHB and its analogues, and benzos.
Generally it is taken orally. I've read about how it's almost entirely broken down in either the stomach or liver (can't remember exactly which or how at this point), and it definitely takes a long time to take effect, 3-4 hours for me. At a dose of 1 - 1.5 grams (depending on tolerance), it takes full effect in 3-4 hour hours and lingers all day, generally just improving my mood significantly and sometimes giving a little buzz. The mood lift sometimes becomes a very natural-feeling euphoria, as if I had just heard the greatest news or gotten a bonus at work or had really good sex.
My question is, does anyone know anything or speculate on any alternate forms of ingestion? There is one report on Erowid of snorting it, but it's not enough for me to try it. It claims that it's active in far, far lower doses that way, which would be nice since 1.5 grams is quite a lot. I believe the report claimed it's fully active in the range of 20mg or something. Does anyone know anything about its mechanism of action? I speculate that it might also be very effective rectally, which would be a preferrably form of ingestion over insufflation. I'm nervous to try either because I have no clue as to what kind of dose would be necessary, and having too much causes extreme sedation, dizziness, and the like.
Any speculation, discussion, or outright experience would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Generally it is taken orally. I've read about how it's almost entirely broken down in either the stomach or liver (can't remember exactly which or how at this point), and it definitely takes a long time to take effect, 3-4 hours for me. At a dose of 1 - 1.5 grams (depending on tolerance), it takes full effect in 3-4 hour hours and lingers all day, generally just improving my mood significantly and sometimes giving a little buzz. The mood lift sometimes becomes a very natural-feeling euphoria, as if I had just heard the greatest news or gotten a bonus at work or had really good sex.
My question is, does anyone know anything or speculate on any alternate forms of ingestion? There is one report on Erowid of snorting it, but it's not enough for me to try it. It claims that it's active in far, far lower doses that way, which would be nice since 1.5 grams is quite a lot. I believe the report claimed it's fully active in the range of 20mg or something. Does anyone know anything about its mechanism of action? I speculate that it might also be very effective rectally, which would be a preferrably form of ingestion over insufflation. I'm nervous to try either because I have no clue as to what kind of dose would be necessary, and having too much causes extreme sedation, dizziness, and the like.
Any speculation, discussion, or outright experience would be much appreciated. Thanks!