So right there have highlighted one sure myth never openly transparently dispelled.
Kava's proclaimed liver toxicity. It's more equivocation, and lie than pure lie and misinfo only.
It's a case of understanding and context. They have maintainer the wrong impression and view so long.
Kava is not at all inherently toxic itself or for the liver. It requires I think two key liver enzymes to metabolise it, but it's not a case of toxicity.
It's just process. Unlike alcohol which is for all merits a toxic burden still effectively.
This rule doesn't apply to Kava though. It's notoriously only when kava is notvadequately separated and spaced from alcohol by I always advise 24 hrs or more each way one or the other but never concurrent.
It's the alcohol which is liver toxic. Kava utilises those enzymes which also clear up after alcohol filtering toxins. As a result the liver is defefenseless against alcohol's toxicity. Kava + alcohol is a lot more contraindicated on paper, theory and practise than a year of daily MDMA use, which can actually be survived and that's an understatement too.
It's for the pure foolhardy that combo. Simply avoid. V fast way to irreversible sickness and liver harm.
I can't say there are no exceptions, like individuals with an already compromised liver unable to process Kava alcohol past/alongside or not.
But I cannot recall knowing/hearing of it yet.
It's the + alcohol factor.
With alcohol being so massively prevalentnt and widespread in Society there is a danger of people not being informed about this contraindication or simply not being disciplined and respecting it
So many people never really abstain from alcohol or wish or intend to for long enough to even try kava.
It's one or the other I have a long term alcoholic friend who i know for sure could be helped but he is never able or motivated enough to to take even 24 hour break from alcohol so it just never happened because I would never encourage or sanction such an act and have always been very transparent and insistent about that too.
I'm lost with words today, can articulate shit.
where was I?
There is no actual need for toxicity concerns, for regular folk at least with Kava unless concurrent with alcohol.
No toxic buildup, burden, detox process nor even interference with general detox.
However, if there is any actual toxicity in Kava, it will be in Extracts and capsules only.
Or what's known as "tudei" kava. For every two days. This is produced differently. Less filtered. Far heavier, more hypnotic. But inherently toxic hence sparse usage recommendations.
So this is worth knowing. And I am sure fed into the myth.
Noble kava is produced diffently. Not toxic at all. Tudei is rare and no-one who is anyone in kava business offers it without full informing. Nor attempts to sell tudei disguised as noble.
Also, it was an equivocational scam from the off.
6 key identified kavalactones comprise kava.
A sham scientific study testing for liver toxicity used insanely large quantities of different kavalactones which are not known to or appear only minisculy in kava, to produce liver harm likely in rats if I recall (?)
Zero application to real world kava drinking. It's not like alcohol i mean it isn't the case that drinking kava leeds to headache but as you said you were not fully hydrated and it is important to hydrate alongside drinking kava so that would potentially cause a headache as a result of dehydration.
But that scientific study was completely flawed and has never been sufficiently openly overturned since.
It is precisely because of that incorrect flawed outdated science that this myth continues to be perpetuated never dispelled enough.
Kava isn't mild though as you report. I honestly feel you may be under dosing on a vastly inferior product which also could have some toxicity to it.
Honestly my experienced advice, is to forget extracts except thekavadepot one if wish.
Their noble is top too.
Get a good instant kava maybe. GHK sell best instants. Thekavaroots bulakavahouse
Artofkava have sublime strong v palatable organic noble Fijian kavas. Kadavu! Honest, prep 50 grams correctly noble kadavu, in a litre abouts or over. Neck that over hr or 2, with weed.
THEN lol tellus kava is subtle! Only if you still need to overcome reverse tolerance would you not feel a whole world more of effects from its which feel very similar to benzodiazepenes without actual addiction or withdrawal.
Kavatime too. So many in US, are you in UK? I can help there too but because of our government"s twisted maniacs it remains a illegal for human consumption in united kingdom due to those misinformation studies, so and majority of international and american retailers simply refuse to ship here but it is still fateh novel imported under the guise of being a pet supplement.
US residents though, so jel I am too, the Kava world is their oyster.
Re vendors. I dunno on this.
This place IS a HR one right! Right?
This is not IMO "sourcing", which applies by definition to illegals.
We can talk about coca cola in Walmart lol, McDonald's Big as etc etc.
I see no difference. This I clean legal within rule important HR to me.
If you are in UK, I have a wicken friendly non profiteering man imports high Q kavas in sells v fairly, trusty as he'll instant service, he set up the pretence pet supplement industry.
I can give his email if want. V easy deal with true man.
This thread, gives another conciser overview too, just post two. Covers some prep methods.
I've seen this drink called kava or kava kava being advertised online, it seems to be legal in most countries around the world. Apparently it is a natural alternative to xanax and benzos and is pretty potent. Has anyone ever tried it? Apparently it affects GABA receptors and is a MAO B enzyme...
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I know mate, if do how suggest, prop prep high KL noble with sunflower lecithin, blender or kneading- traditional prep, you will get something totally different.
Like you I've voyaged before. Maxed on the strongest psyoactives.
On occasion, kava has wasted me as much or more as anything too.
Just wanna help you save time wasted further disappointment and get what you maybe haven't seen is there for you.
I had an edible cannabis dose 1 hour ago while I prepared myself 65 grams of noble kadavu root. Taken two glasses from 1 litre. I feel it! I will get a decent follow up 2nd wash too.
You need a decent strainer bag from any vendor selling a good quality one this is important what I do before I begin the kneading process or after I have used to blender method and tipped the Carver into the straining bag from the blender in both cases I tie the strainer bag up. You can then either need it again in less water or alternatively seal in a Kilner jar with warm water and just shake it all about for a minute or two to extract the rest and you have a reasonable amount of psychoactivity there as ample top up too.
If you want help with UK acquisition shout me mate have a think.
I know this stuff too I swear, like what is worth trying.
I vaporize organic sun herb too. Will do next. Keep spreading this strong kadavu I am def gonna feel krunj, already do on 1st 17 % about.
Good luck and take care man. Ask anything too, can help UKers like say easily.
