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Vomiting on E

Puking on diddles.......

I have puked many a time off pills and in most cases it is nothing to worry about unless you feel seriously ill and not just seriously battered.

Sometimes it is just a mouthful, often an entrire stomach out at projectile speeds and other times it is the foamy stuff that was inquired about in the previous post.

I have found that 2 things affect puking. The first being taking a pill soon after large volume of liquid i.e beer or drinking lots fo water.

The second is obviously strong pills either singly or weaker pills dropped together. I have been seriously battered when coming up off 2 pills that I have ran round the club unable to stop moving - almost manic like and then headed to the toilet at the last minute to puke.

My golden rules for clubbing that have lasted me well over the past decade are: 1.) Eat a meal well before clubbing

2.) Drink reasonable amounts of fluid but not too much beforehand and obviously steadily throughout the night

3.)relax and chill for periods after dancing.

4.) Get the best pills you can from a source you can trust and always test beforehand.

5.) Go out with mates and all keep an eye on each other.

I have never broken those rules and have been sick a lot of times. Most of the time you must just relax and not worry. Stressing about it being a 'bad' pill" and thinking that you are dying is not good and can freak you out.

Best to chill and take it easy. Normally you feel better instantaneously much like an alcohol puke!
 
i quite regularly spew on pillz i just have to hold it down for the first 1/2 hour till i am satisfied the pill wont come back up, haha all good tho i spose just your body reacting
 
throwing up after i've dropped is the reason why i rarely have pills when i'm out anymore...it might be after half an hour, or after four hours but i know it's coming, and i now wonder if i'm psychin myself out and gettin too worked up about it, therefore causin it. After a couple of unexpected (i mean, no warning at all) accidents in the corner of clubs, i'm too nervous before i go out...yet i'm usually fine at home with friends
 
I spew just about every time. And it does get annoying at events - but I have learnt to read the signs of when am gonna chuck - I get a gluggy feeling in my throat and go into a cold sweat.... so I just go outside somewhere quiet and spew and thats it for the rest of the night.

Usually after a spew I come up like anything :D
 
Apart from the physical cause of things such as not eating or poor quality ingredients in the pill my guess is that nausia on the come up could also be anxiety related. That would explain why it's common that people say they peak hard after spewing. I personally have realised I am quite depressed or anxious sometimes on the come up especially if I've had a really stressfull couple of weeks before and have shut myself off to it. When I've had a good dose of MDMA I usually have felt like it opens me up on the comeup but sometimes that is very uncomfortable like I am faced with all depression/anxiety/stress from the week ect. Sometimes it has been so strong I've gotten worried thinking I'll never peak and might get stuck in that horrible comeup state... then miraculously something random has always happened such as a random girl coming over and chatting with me and puitting me totally at ease or a close friend of mine talking to me and giveing me an awesome Shiatsu massage... next thing I am peaking to stars!

I always try to take a little time out when coming up to be by myself and just sit and try and relax... and get rid of the weeks worries ect and put myself in a chilled out mood.

That's my 5c worth anyway.... It might sound silly but seriously I think stress can make you sick if you ignore it!!
 
I usually go out in the town for a little while I will drop and then walk from where Iam to the club... Im usually chopped a bit but then I walk, get to the club door and Im soaring!

I usually find this a great way of doing things. It take my mind off what I've just dropped and I don't stress or anything. Too many times have I been stressing and I probably am peaking but because I'm just ***IS THIS GOING TO WORK*** It hasn't happened. (the peak that is) So Now I go do something, catch up with old friends for a socialise and a walk then Go to the club and im well hitched!!! :)

SpecTBK=D
 
There is an alarming number of people in this thread who consider vomiting as a normal part of an MDMA experience... whereas in my opinion it is a clear sign that your acute dose is too high. It may be that you very much like the peak effects of a large dose of MDMA, but there's no reason to put yourself through an uncontrollable, emergency vomit simply to peak as hard as you'd like.

Some (approximately 1 in every 10) people are naturally hyper-sensitive to MDMA. If you've thrown up every, or nearly every, time you've had MDMA then the odds are you may be one of them. Regardless of your natural sensitivity to MDMA, taking a very high dose will make just about anyone throw up. It's quite sudden, almost like the stomach just flips over and you go from "Hmmm... my stomach feels...." to *PUKE* within a VERY short space of time. Quite embarrassing in public.

By 'fractionating' your dose (ie. breaking up into smaller pieces spread over time) you probably can get similar effects without throwing up.

If you find that you're usually fine after 1 pill, but you always chuck up after the 2nd one, then it makes perfect sense to have the 2nd one in halves. If you chuck up on the first one, then do that in halves separated by half an hour or an hour... that way by the time the first half is picking your feet up, the second won't be too far away, but you won't be racing for the toilet/rubbishbin/cloakroom/etc to deposit your dinner and pre-drinks.

Some people change over time too, years ago I used to scoff at people who told me about taking half-pills. I always took whole pills, and thought that half would do next to nothing to me... how wrong I was. "Less is more" really says it all for me, and it kept me interested in MDMA long after I would've probably said "I'm over it" otherwise.

In summary, taking halves (or quarters!) can be equally as fun as taking wholes, it's a bit more controllable, no less intense peak overall... just a bit gentler on the journey from baseline to Mach 10. By NO means is it a foolproof method to avoid throwing up -- eg. took another half too soon after the previous one -- but it helps. Just watch out if you're throwing up all the time, its a sign something in your drug-taking strategy needs attention.

BigTrancer :)
 
I have found that I have had a chuck on a half, but this has only happened once and I beleive the virtual molotov cocktail of other substances in my system at the time would probably have caused this to happen any way.

I can remember taking my first full pill, yeah sure it made me chuck, but WOW what a peak. I have however learned from that and most of the time now I only take halves. It makes it a lot easier, a lot cleaner and for me, maybe even lasts a little longer.

Keep it safe :)
 
^^BT i wouldn't say that necessarily holds true for everybody, one average mdma pill on its own will do nothing for me as far as mood or energy but will still make me nauseous, two pills and i get the nausea and possibly vomitting but at least i peak and feel awesome. I don't think i'm the only one either i was reading a thread in ED the other day where a couple of people said less than ~150mg of mdma and all they get is vomitting but more than that and the experience is excellent.

Ekstasis-//7 said:
I always try to take a little time out when coming up to be by myself and just sit and try and relax... and get rid of the weeks worries ect and put myself in a chilled out mood.

That's my 5c worth anyway.... It might sound silly but seriously I think stress can make you sick if you ignore it!!
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I agree with you, my comeup if im not in the right set and setting seems to be characterised entirely by anxiety, all the classic symptoms feeling very uncomfortable, feeling like people are looking at me, confusion and sweating.
 
I've only ever vomited once from e's. Normally my stomach does backflips, but the urge to crap is greater than the urge to spew.
 
Just plug your pill instead. You get more for your money, the peak is stronger, and you're much, much less likely to be sick.
 
just curious i chucked after the last pill i had and i have been a bit scared after that.
this has never happened before and i have had my fair share but i am also scared of loosing the pill :(
heaps of my friends snort it do u reackon this would still make u chuck?????
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heaps of my friends snort it do u reackon this would still make u chuck?????
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It can do. It depends whether you would enjoy the sting, followed by a bunch of mucous bound insoluble binders running down your throat, which means you'd end up swallowing some of it anyway.

That being said, many people feel they do get less nausea from insufflating.
 
Take some dramamine half an hour before you have a pill and with every pill you take after that and you won't vomit at all.

I used to spew constantly on pills until dramamine.
 
what is this dramamine you speak of?

I assume it acts line a lining on the stomach to slow the absorbtion so you don't get as bit a mdma hit?

Would that affect the overall strenght of the roll?
 
same situation. never used to spew off pills until i had a very strong MDA one a few years ago. every pill since then has made me vomit or very close too it. i do my pills in halves, but the sick feeling always comes just after i have come up or taken my 2nd half. i have used tablets called "pramin tablets" to ease the nauseous feeling, but i still always end up throwing up....

i dont know whether now its a little psychological that i throw up and feel sick, but i find now im always worried about getting sick if im on a pill which takes away the whole pleasure of it for me. i can hontesly say ive tried everything...eating/not eating, smaller/larger doses, different anti-sick pills, mixing/not mixing, methods of admin...nothing works personally for me, and im always "worried" about throwing up.....
 
I've only ever blown chunks once. Was the first time I had really good MDMA.

I find that If I dance on the come up it takes my mind of whats happening in my stomach. But that said, I don't drop that often anymore, so when I do I'm usually really excited and just can't wait. I think if you're a little anxious this can cause you to feel a little off, and when you add that to some seriously huge rushes it's bound to make you feel a little queasy.
 
KryalkastleE: I highly recommend you try dramamine. I used to vomit on pills so much that I gave up taking them because it wasn't worth it. For me (and maybe you as well) it wasn't the process of absorption in the stomach that made me spew, it was something that went with the MDMA rush. There are serotonin receptors in the gut as well, and I guess that's why I was puking so much. It wasn't just a comeup spew, it was frequently enough during the peak that pills just weren't worth taking.

I don't know the exact pharmacology of dramamine, but I do know that it acts directly on the bits of the brain that control vomiting. It's nothing to do with stomach absorption...it just stops you from puking.

I usually take 2 dramamine half an hour before my first pill, and then with every pill I take after that, or more if required. Be careful not to take too much though, dramamine is (I think) an anti-cholergenic and can fuck you up if you take too much.

I rarely spew at all on pills anymore and it used to be a major problem. If you spew too much on pills, try dramamine.
 
Exerpts from MIMS on Dramamine

Description

Chemical name: 2-(benzohydryloxy) -N,N-dimethyl -ethylamine 8-chlorotheophyllinate. Dimenhydrinate is a white odourless crystalline powder. Melting point: 102 to 107 deg. C. Soluble 1 in 95 of water, 1 in 2 of alcohol and 1 in 2 of chloroform.


Actions

Pharmacology. The site of action of Dramamine is not clearly understood. Evidence indicates that Dramamine acts either on the overstimulated labyrinth, depresses transmission of nerve stimuli centrally (to the cerebrum) or acts between the labyrinth and the vomiting centre, probably at the chemoreceptor trigger zone.

Pharmacokinetics. Dimenhydrinate is the diphenhydramine salt of 8-chlorotheophylline. No human pharmacokinetic data are available. Rhesus monkeys orally dosed with radioactive diphenhydramine had peak plasma levels (0.25 to 0.3 microgram/mL) of unchanged drug between one to two hours after dosing. Values declined thereafter with an apparent half-life of about one hour. However, plasma levels of total radioactivity reached a peak four hours after dosing (26 microgram/mL) and then declined with a half-life of about 12 hours. 91% of the labelled material from a four hour plasma sample was identified as the metabolite diphenylmethoxyacetic acid.

The major urinary metabolites are conjugates of diphenylmethoxyacetic acid.
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Indications

Prevention and relief of motion sickness and treatment of vertigo, nausea or vomiting associated with electroshock therapy, anaesthesia and surgery, labyrinthine disturbances and radiation sickness.
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Contraindications

Patients known to be allergic to this drug or any of its excipients. Patients hypersensitive to dimenhydrinate, diphenhydramine and other antihistamines.
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Precautions

Dramamine should not be used by patients with glaucoma, emphysema, chronic pulmonary disease, shortness of breath, difficulty in breathing, or difficulty in urination due to enlargement of the prostate gland, unless directed by a doctor.

Because of its antimuscarinic actions, dimenhydrinate should be used with caution in patients with urinary retention or pyloroduodenal obstruction.

Dimenhydrinate has been associated with acute attacks of porphyria and is considered unsafe in acute porphyria.

Dimenydrinate should be used with caution in patients with epilepsy or seizure disorders.

It should be borne in mind that antiemetics should be used with caution since they may mask the presence of underlying organic abnormalities or the toxic effects of other drugs, particularly those drugs causing ototoxicity which may be irreversible. Prolonged therapy with antihistaminic drugs can produce blood dyscrasias in rare instances.

Use in pregnancy. (Category A)

There are no adequate and well controlled studies in pregnant women. However, clinical studies in pregnant women have not indicated that Dramamine increases the risk of abnormalities when administered in any trimester of pregnancy. It would appear that the possibility of fetal harm is remote when the drug is used during pregnancy. Nevertheless, because the studies in humans cannot rule out the possibility of harm, Dramamine should be used during pregnancy only if clearly needed.

Use in lactation. As small amounts of Dramamine are excreted in breast milk, benefits of therapy must be weighed against potential adverse reactions in breastfed infants, benefits outweigh the risks.

Use in children. Dramamine is not recommended for children under 2 years.

Effect on ability to drive or operate machinery. Drowsiness may occur; those affected should not drive or operate machinery. Alcohol, sedatives and tranquillizers may increase the drowsiness effect.
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Adverse Reactions

Drowsiness may be experienced by some patients, especially on high dosage, although this effect frequently is not undesirable in some conditions for which Dramamine is used. However, patients should be cautioned against operating automobiles or dangerous machinery while taking Dramamine because of the possible drowsiness associated with the drug.

Dizziness, headache, blurred vision, tinnitus, incoordination, palpitations and hypotension may also occur. Symptoms of dry mouth, lassitude, excitement, nausea and fixed drug eruption have been reported.
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Interactions

Dramamine may potentiate the sedative effects of other drugs including alcohol, sedatives, hypnotics, tranquillizers, anxiolytic agents, barbiturates, narcotic analgesics, and may enhance the antimuscarinic effects of anticholinergics such as atropine and antidepressants (tricyclics and monoamine oxidase inhibitors).

When given concurrently with aminoglycoside antibiotics or other ototoxic drugs, dimenhydrinate may mask the early symptoms of ototoxicity.
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Last night i had a pill a home and after about 4 hrs after dropping i threw up. As soon as i finished chucking up i had this tinggly feeling in my mouth that ive never had before. The reason y i fink i chucked up was because i might of drank too much water without being very active.
 
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