Morning Glory Extraction Method and Nausea
I have some untreated Morning Glory seeds that were purchased online. I also have some HBWR but have those a shot last night with no results. Tonight I am going to give the Morning Glories a go.
I have 1000 of the seeds sitting in my coffee grinder right now, ready to be ground up. I am either going to take them sublingual or go for the CWE method of extraction.
For the sublingual route, I will grind the seeds up to a fine powder, add a tbsp. of lime juice, and maybe a tablespoon of non-chlorinate water to the mix as well. I will let that sit for about ten minutes, then put the end result under my tongue and around my gum, as if I were using dip in my lip. Then will take a fraction of the seed gunk and place it under my tongue and around my gum as if I were putting a dip in the lip (tobacco). I will hold that their for 20 minutes. Next I will spit that out and then take another fraction or the rest if it is enough for my mouth to hold and hold that in the lip under tongue for 20 minutes, followed by spitting. This way I won't have to place the mush of 1000 seeds in my mouth all at once. If it will fit, then I will all at one time.
For the CWE, I will probably use this method I found online and it sounds pretty effective. Here it is:
Supplies needed:
seeds, 1 glass, 20 ounces of distilled water, 1 large (family size) empty tea bag or 2-3 smaller ones, Coffee grinder, spoon, bowl, a sifter or splatter screen or something similar, paper towels, stapler, a touch of liquid hand soap.
Procedure:
1. Remove seeds from bags and count the number you would like to use (I recommend at least 400, and at most 600 for the first time)
2. Wash whole seeds briefly to remove any fungicides or other seed coatings. Do this by putting the seeds into a bowl and covering with some cold water. Put just a touch of hand soap in the water. Work the seeds around in the bowl with your fingers for about 10-20 seconds.
3. Rinse seeds. Put them in the sifter or on the splatter screen and rinse with cold tap water until all the soap is gone. (It is probably a good idea not to have them in the water too long, as the water might get into the seeds and remove a little of the alkaloids.)
4. Dry seeds. Do NOT use a blowdryer! Dry them well with paper towels.
5. Once they are dry, grind them pretty thoroughly in a coffee grinder, but not to the point of a fine powder. You want the black seed hulls to remain a little coarse.
6. Put the grounds into the empty tea bags and then staple the tea bags shut. Leave some breathing room in each bag since, when wet, the seed mush will expand and might break the bag if it is too full.
7. Put the tea bags into the glass which you have filled with cold distilled water.
8. Aid the extraction by getting the water into the mush. Some will tend to clump and remain in an air pocket. Use the spoon to submerge the bags and to squeeze them gently against the side of the glass. Also, you can lift and Dunk the bags repeatedly to help extract the LSA.
9. Leave glass to sit in a cool dark place for ten minutes with spoon on top of bags to keep them submerged if they are trying to float.
10. Go back and work on the bags some more with the spoon. Be careful not to tear the bag. If you do tear it and mush leaks out, you will have to filter the water.
11. Leave glass to sit for another ten minutes.
12. Work with spoon some more and then remove the bags and squeeze most of the water that remains in them into the glass.
13. DISCARD BAGS! THROW THEM IN THE TRASH! THE SEED MUSH IS TRASH!
14. Drink water.
"I am not too sure if it helps or not, but on some occasions I put a few squirts of lemon juice into the water to acidify it, possibly aiding alkaloid solubility.
That is the method I will try if I go for the CWE. The main reason I am posting this is because I've attempted Morning Glory and HBWR several times before with no success or results. For the morning glory I always got really sick and threw up and never felt anything other than a very slight high and horrible sickness. For the HBWR i used sublingual with no results.
Mainly, I'm looking to reduce the nausea as much as possible so I can have a great trip but not let the sickness ruin it altogether. And the times I've tried it I only got really sick with very mild to non existent effects.
Should I go for the sublingual or the CWE? I doubt the sublingual will have any nausea at all but I don't want to go with the CWE and get sick again, especially not on 1000 seeds. I've read that the CWE tea bag method removes the bad stuff and you will barely get sick or not get sick at all. Any replies or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
