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uppers or downers?

Downers any day of the week, or dissasociatives. :D

Uppers always give me vasoconstriction, I have constantly purple knees because of my use of uppers and it wasn't even for a long period of time. :(
 
Uppers painkillers and weed every day. Sometimes add disociative or psychedelics.

Can't have uppers without downers, mixing makes a me to mellow.r
 
dankhead88 said:
both. Meth IV in the morning. Heroin + Meth IV combo midday. Heroin IV at night.
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+1 but i prefer to smoke my shards late at night and then have a little top up of meth at midday the next day followed by either some beers at about 6 in the evening or if i can afford it i have a few burns of smack.

But if i can only afford either the uppers or downers i go for the meth every time
 
《Plasticity》 said:
^ Technically, but it always gets me moving (especially when there's good music involved).

Downers, almost exclusively. Besides emathogens and stimmy psychedelics I almost never touch stims. They're incredibly fiendish, hard on the body, and make me feel like crap for a long time after I've come down... not worth it IMO. I'm very susceptible to the negative effects of stimulants. I just like to melt into my couch or relax with my girlfriend when I get home from work, not stay up all night compulsively fidgeting until sunrise. I will say though, sex on stims is fantastic.
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Facts.
 
Downers. Tried several stimulants and they usually don't agree with me AT ALL. I generally just get wired on them in a very unpleasant, jittery, on-verge-of-panic way.

My first (and last) time trying meth for instance I went into a full-on paranoid psychotic state, instead of getting nicely sexed-up which everybody kept telling me about.

Coke I tried several times and disliked, again never got out of it what my mates seemed to, none of the 'feeling invincible and on top of the world' etc. Just paranoid and restless and uncomfortably high heart rate. That said I loved the odd classic speedball here and there ; must be the combo that does it.

I've also not turned down a hit of crack here and there, and did find that quite enjoyable, which has me scratching my head. I mean it's essentially the same bloody drug as coke, how would I seem to get a different effect?! Might be to do with the method of ingestion rather than the substance? Can any experienced coke users here explain that because it really puzzles me.
 
IM both do uppers coke or meth then spome heroin no comedown but adding downers means physical addiction i wont do uppers without downers
 
Lil'LinaptkSix said:
I will not even think of an upper if I do not have something to come down with. Coffee is enough and cannot even tolerate that well without dosing kratom first.
I am def a downer person and always will be. Need to be knocked tf out sometimes to get my bearings.
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So fucking true while my friends are whats app each how they feel shit next day . I go home smoke some heroin instant relief take 5 300 mg pregabalin soon im fast asleep . Like you i would never do uppers without proper downer
 
yubacity said:
I go home smoke some heroin instant relief
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I can do a few puffs of weed and it was will usually put the brakes on any aftercrack attacks or blow co.eoff/down. lol
This is not the case for most other uppers. Def doesn't work with meth (for me)... I gotta have that long acting benzo or something close to it. Been quite some time but I used to use diazepam for meth -or other - related "awareness". hahaha
 
I think putting drugs in the "uppers" and "downers" categories isn't the best thing to do. Pharmacologically speaking it makes sense, but..

For example, opioids are "downers", but they give me energy & make me more motivated than even meth does. So would that make it an upper or a downer?

Everyone's different. Alcohol is considered a "downer" and I fucking hate alcohol. So making blanket statements like "I prefer downers" just doesn't make much sense to me, when drugs can have varying effects on everyone. What might be a downer for one person is an upper for another & vice versa. And just because I like opioids, doesn't mean I like all downers.
 
Lil'LinaptkSix said:
I can do a few puffs of weed and it was will usually put the brakes on any aftercrack attacks or blow co.eoff/down. lol
This is not the case for most other uppers. Def doesn't work with meth (for me)... I gotta have that long acting benzo or something close to it. Been quite some time but I used to use diazepam for meth -or other - related "awareness". hahaha
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For crack i find weed can work for me its a easier comedown for me but i normally do line a big one before a blast so i need heroin or pregabs . In the states i had large order of indian pregabs get through plus my 600 mg pregab script so they work for meth . Before pregabs and when they in UK abundant proper script diazepam or tamazepam i found they were great
 
DeathIndustrial88 said:
I think putting drugs in the "uppers" and "downers" categories isn't the best thing to do. Pharmacologically speaking it makes sense, but..

For example, opioids are "downers", but they give me energy & make me more motivated than even meth does. So would that make it an upper or a downer?

Everyone's different. Alcohol is considered a "downer" and I fucking hate alcohol. So making blanket statements like "I prefer downers" just doesn't make much sense to me, when drugs can have varying effects on everyone. What might be a downer for one person is an upper for another & vice versa. And just because I like opioids, doesn't mean I like all downers.
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Good point. Also with some things it's dosage-dependent. Opium essentially is a 'downer' in that its main physical effect is to depress your CNS, but in low to moderate doses it has the opposite felt effect. Chinese railway workers used opium to get them through the workday, it was like an energising tonic.

And the practice of traditional opium smoking sessions reflects this : the first pipe is known to make people more animated, hence that's the part of the ceremony where everyone is encouraged to talk and socialise. The second will make you more calm and reflective, that's the time for listening to music or poetry recitals. The third is where the typical opiate sedative effect really takes hold, and people will generally recline, doze and daydream. Throughout, tea and sweet confections are served.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
Good point. Also with some things it's dosage-dependent. Opium essentially is a 'downer' in that its main physical effect is to depress your CNS, but in low to moderate doses it has the opposite felt effect. Chinese railway workers used opium to get them through the workday, it was like an energising tonic.

And the practice of traditional opium smoking sessions reflects this : the first pipe is known to make people more animated, hence that's the part of the ceremony where everyone is encouraged to talk and socialise. The second will make you more calm and reflective, that's the time for listening to music or poetry recitals. The third is where the typical opiate sedative effect really takes hold, and people will generally recline, doze and daydream. Throughout, tea and sweet confections are served.
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In punjab laborers use it for the same effect give them energy they mostly use pods or raw opium which i have done so many times the right dose makes you chatty the sun dont bother you and you have energy
 
yubacity said:
In punjab laborers use it for the same effect give them energy they mostly use pods or raw opium which i have done so many times the right dose makes you chatty the sun dont bother you and you have energy
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People tend to think of heroin as THE most 'anti-social' drug, and I'd say most do use it that way, to just shut themselves off from the world and basically take time out from existing. But I have in fact often deliberately not shot myself to the moon, and found it could be an excellent social drug. For me it helped lower barriers and be more wiling to connect to others ; I've had some of the best conversations and most pleasantly relaxed sociable times of my life on heroin.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
Good point. Also with some things it's dosage-dependent. Opium essentially is a 'downer' in that its main physical effect is to depress your CNS, but in low to moderate doses it has the opposite felt effect. Chinese railway workers used opium to get them through the workday, it was like an energising tonic.

And the practice of traditional opium smoking sessions reflects this : the first pipe is known to make people more animated, hence that's the part of the ceremony where everyone is encouraged to talk and socialise. The second will make you more calm and reflective, that's the time for listening to music or poetry recitals. The third is where the typical opiate sedative effect really takes hold, and people will generally recline, doze and daydream. Throughout, tea and sweet confections are served.
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This is a good point too.
Too high of doses can definitely turn into a snooze fest & needing a nap.
There are "stimulants" too that can actually make me more tired (ephedrine is one of them).

Depending on my neurochemistry at the time, I can also be stimulated while simultaneously sedated on either opioids or stimulants.

So much variation & variables when it comes to drugs. That's why I just say I like drugs, rather than being an upper or downer person.
 
i used to be into downers, opiates and benzos alcohol. as time goes on though, i think i realize i didn't really like being drunk and benzos kind of have the same thing. as i get older (about to be 38 next month) i like being down less. i think i realized i can cure my anxiety with just weed, so taking a downer is an over kill and makes me feel off and maybe even takes away from the weed high that i like. the only time i really have taken benzos recently and felt it was okay was when i was in the psychward and my insomnia catches up with me not having weed. a little bit will put me to sleep when i need it, but that's it. i don't like being awake with that downer feeling anymore. just not that enjoyable to me. i haven't taken opiates in like almost twenty years now though, so i have no idea. maybe i'd still enjoy them.

i drink a couple strong cups of coffee every day though and then smoke weed. somedays i'll drink my two cups of coffee and add a large starbucks coffee if i'm in that part of town and have extra money. it gets me going. i'd probably love an adderall prescription. i always think to ask the doctor about it claiming it will make me less depressed, but i'm guessing that's drug seeking intentions or something... i remember enjoying coke with weed a lot too. i'd probably try it if it were legalized. maybe i'd do it weekly or something if it were cheap. i think i'd try to use some will power not to be on it all the time. i don't think my body could really handle it. i'd have to see how it felt if it were legalized. i didn't even really mess with coke too often even before fentanyl, so no way i'm doing illegal coke now.

i honestly enjoy stimulants a lot more with weed. i'd say i'm a stimulants person at this point, really just a pot head though.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
People tend to think of heroin as THE most 'anti-social' drug, and I'd say most do use it that way, to just shut themselves off from the world and basically take time out from existing. But I have in fact often deliberately not shot myself to the moon, and found it could be an excellent social drug. For me it helped lower barriers and be more wiling to connect to others ; I've had some of the best conversations and most pleasantly relaxed sociable times of my life on heroin.
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Most the time i do it to shut off but you are tright there a sweet spot where your relaxed but talkative energetic i know this because before work on lorry i would just do enough heroin to be energetic and then do pods rest of day once home i would smoke aty night to shut off
 
yes, please!

I'm a fan of things that are neither up nor down; kratom, ketamine, weed - kratom is stimulating in a relaxing way, helps me get through the day from am to pm
 
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