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turning "gay" while rolling

Inedible said:
Okay, here's how it went for me:

I'm bisexual. I've always been bisexual. I only completely realized this for the first time when I took MDMA for the first time. I could look back into my past at that point and pinpoint homosexual feelings that I'd had early on, and finally see them for what they were and completely accept them. At the time I originally felt those feelings, I had just shrugged them off as products of a healthy and mildly overzealous imagination.

MDMA allows you to peer into your subconscious and see what existed all along, perhaps hidden from introspection due to some level of repression, kind of like peering through a window into your own soul. This is why Dr. Alexander Shulgin's original idea for a colloquial nickname for MDMA was, in fact, Window.

It is possible for people who self-identify as "straight" to have homosexual experiences on MDMA, while still being "straight" while sober. MDMA can open up your thought processes to novel and new experiences that your inhibitions and natural sexual desires keep you from wanting when you are baseline. Sometimes these homosexual desires on MDMA are because, while sober, you have repressed these hidden feelings and MDMA is simply allowing them to flourish, which is what happened to me.

Sometimes, it's simply a product of inhibition-less ecstasy; you feel such a heavy, thunderous amount of love for everyone and all things, comparitively little minutiae like your sexual orientation can't hope to stand in the way of your need to fulfill this love. Once sober again, that person usually no longer feels these feelings, and is, in fact, "straight." There's nothing wrong with feeling this way on MDMA. You can still be straight and have homosexual experiences, especially on MDMA. Consider it experimentation, really.
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Basically you're saying people who did not realize their bisexuality/homosexuality, mdma allowed them to be open towards these feelings.
 
crunchymilk said:
Basically you're saying people who did not realize their bisexuality/homosexuality, mdma allowed them to be open towards these feelings.
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Yes, but also -- sometimes these feelings exist only on MDMA. Some people are perfectly content to be straight when sober. Sometimes these feelings are just from you expressing over-love for everything whilst on MDMA, and they become subdued or nonexistent when sober. For these people, being somewhat polysexual while rolling and being straight sober is okay.
 
Gerald92 said:
so i have heard from friends and on here about guys that are straight rolling and ending up making out with or fucking their guy friends. i was wondering how common this is? because for me, even the first time i rolled i rolled fucking balls and it was me and 2 friends, and we held hands and hugged and shit i think my friend even kissed my hand at one point but we never did anything sexual. we just talked about how we were best friends and needed to stick together. so yea, im wondering what you guys experiences are with this?
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Its perfectly natural most college students experiment. Saying just b/c you are attracted to a man you're gay, is very closed minded!
 
I have no clue, I was with my best friend who is a girl, and well we didn't even do of anything sexual. We held hands, with our arms around each other rubbing away, but beyond nothing much happened. I definitely believe that in the near future it may happen that we kiss, amongst other things in fact we even talked about it.

But for turning gay, never thought of it, but I see how it could perhaps happen. That said however, I was chilling with my guy friend on it before and I didn't think of it beyond the friends touch. We're all real tight.
 
thelearner said:
Please, then, good sir, explain the extremely high prevalence of homosexual sex in prison amongst men who have never had sexual relations with other men before prison, and once released, do not have sex with men ever again?

Are these men gay?
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Yes they are gay.
 
lol at this thread. seriously? we can never say if another person is gay or not. we can certainly have an opinion; but we will never know. why catalog our personal views on homo and hetero sexuality in a thread? a bit redundant isnt all this?
 
Well I have always been convinced that most men given the chance and anonymity will fuck just about anything. I don't have a problem with that. It's a natural urge, better than shooting and killing people at least.
 
augustaB said:
Well I have always been convinced that most men given the chance and anonymity will fuck just about anything. I don't have a problem with that. It's a natural urge, better than shooting and killing people at least.
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Not me.

If she isn't bangin' hot (to me, anyway), I'm just flat out not interested. Sex with unattractive women is horrible. My dick refuses to cooperate, and it's a deeply unpleasant experience trying to pretend I'm enjoying the experience. The whole time all I can think about is how to leave as quickly as possible. I honestly don't know how other guys do it. Some say alcohol, but seriously, that just makes it worse for me.

Still -- and I know I'll catch flak from the homophobic retards for this ("Hur hur, you only like really hot women cuz ur a faggot, faggot, hurrrrr!") -- I'd be open to a gay experience given the right circumstances, person, etc., though the odds of all the factors coalescing are quite low, so it probably won't happen, especially given I'm not "seeking" it out.
 
You don't "turn gay" you are gay or bisexual or straight, period.

Anyway, it depends on the people you are with and how you connect with them. I always hug and kiss my friends on the cheek when I say hello or goodbye, male and female, it's just a display of affection and we're close enough to each other to be cool about it. Some of us are very tactile and feel comfortable when we are with someone we can hold hands or caress. The key is respecting each other's boundaries.
 
It's really no strange at all for a guy rolling face to kiss another guy's hand, it's so fucking easy for anyone in the moment to do that.... I have had close friends i've known for 4 years + try an kiss another guy while rolling and then about 3 mins later realize what they just tried to do and just apologize (this is MULTIPLE people, not one)... especially if your friend has been around a girl (kissing them while rolling) it will feel very natural to them to just kiss someone for the hell of it because of how it felt with the girl. Tons of situations such as this happen to multiple amounts of my friends around the globe, what we generally say is "I DON'T GIVE A FUCC I'M ROLLING DICK BRAH NO WORRIES"
 
I guess this all begs the question- who cares? its not like being gay or bi is a bad thing, and there isn't anything wrong with exploration.

FIENDDD said:
I DON'T GIVE A FUCC I'M ROLLING DICK BRAH NO WORRIES
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you are fucking brillant. love it.
 
firstmoment said:
lol at this thread. seriously? we can never say if another person is gay or not. we can certainly have an opinion; but we will never know. why catalog our personal views on homo and hetero sexuality in a thread? a bit redundant isnt all this?
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Im w/ u.
 
thelearner said:
Not me.

If she isn't bangin' hot (to me, anyway), I'm just flat out not interested. Sex with unattractive women is horrible. My dick refuses to cooperate, and it's a deeply unpleasant experience trying to pretend I'm enjoying the experience. The whole time all I can think about is how to leave as quickly as possible. I honestly don't know how other guys do it. Some say alcohol, but seriously, that just makes it worse for me.

Still -- and I know I'll catch flak from the homophobic retards for this ("Hur hur, you only like really hot women cuz ur a faggot, faggot, hurrrrr!") -- I'd be open to a gay experience given the right circumstances, person, etc., though the odds of all the factors coalescing are quite low, so it probably won't happen, especially given I'm not "seeking" it out.
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You sound exactly like alot of my friends, none of whom get laid ever. And wen they do find a hott enough girl one day i bet they cant fuck and the girl leaves to find a guy who's guna make her seize to sleep ;)
 
exarkann said:
I guess this all begs the question- who cares? its not like being gay or bi is a bad thing, and there isn't anything wrong with exploration.



you are fucking brillant. love it.
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It doesn't make sense scientifically, and to agree that MDMA turns people gay will only allow MDMA opponents to keep using that in their arguments. Other than that, I think it's a good thing that MDMA allows people to understand their sexuality, it's not turning anybody into something else when they weren't originally before, just haven't been able to realize it or they were suppressing it.
 
The first time I was able to admit to myself I was bi was when I was rolling...so it didn't turn me gay (bi, whatever) but it helped me to get comfortable with something I kinda already knew.
 
Pretty sure if you're a guy and you end up fucking anything, without Viagra, you aren't rolling hard enough.
 
My two friends are straight and there first time rollic he gave his friend a kiss on the cheek and I know there straight welcome to MDMA bro it's called the "LOVE DRUG" for a reason.
 
socalthizzn said:
This makes no sense. What if the male is homosexual? Jeeeez
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makes perfect sense. It has nothing to do with being straight or gay, it's about how hard/impossible it is to get a boner without viagra/cialis when you're rolling hard.
 
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