i was just stating my experience. ive copped chi shit 3 times. once it was decent other 2=crap. it is cut to shit, i mean cmon. lil red specks from a dude throwing raw and capsules into a coffee grinder? i couldnt even get it into my rig unless i heated it to go into solution.
when i went to philly i wasnt impressed, but camden was off the hook, so was wilmington. nyc is hit or miss but i found ok stuff....once i found fire. providence ri has weak to fire as well but growing up there i of course found fire and stuck with it for years. austin texas has some good tar, just have to get a connect and not cop on the street. los angeles has some good stuff too but again you have to find it, street shit is pretty decent though. phoenix had pretty good shit, actually.
so you can see ive been around the block more than most. im sure if i stuck around chi i would have found good shit but i didnt. to be fair, i never stuck around camden either but the couple times i went it was amazingly good. so that DOES say something.
it is my position to stay as neutral as possible in arguments. im not trying to cheerlead for either nj or chi, i dont fucking live in either. im just stating my experience. jesushfuckingchrist.
thank u for postin back, i thouht that might been the case. Alot of jersey ppl got a big "we the best" attitude but its mostly from knowin the facts combined with that jersey attitude. but the chicago heads tend to get offended by that shit, IDK why, Ive talked to lots of chitown cats on here who is dying to get out to jerz and sample the shit we get.
For me personally, its simple , fuck that im from jerz, Im just lookin at it objectively:
In chicago, THE STANDARD DOPE that you will most likely get from COLD COPPIN on the street, will be cut to fuck with "dormin" or watever the shit is out there. The bags are very large and very cut up. This is from the shti ive heard from the ppl that live there and live the life. I aint been there ill say that now.
In jersey, the STANDARD DOPE that you will most lkely get from COLD COPPIN on the street, will almost always be some pretty good shit. Ill be the first to tell u that it aint like it was a few years ago, when it was harder to get bad shit than it was to get fire. but I would still put money on a bet that if you randomly took any chitown bag off the corner and tested the purity compared to any random bag off the corner in NJ, the NJ dope would be of higher purity.
This is cuz of a few reasons, but one of them is simple:
In chicago, the dope dont come pre bagged. Each set is cuttin up the shit as they see fit, and becuz it gets passed down from dealer to dealer to the final last dealer before it reaches the junkie , in powder form to get cut and divided as needed, it gets stepped on alot more times before it gets to the end consumer.
In jersey, we spoiled, I aint gonna deny that--I cant even imagine the shit that would go down if we got served some of that cutup dormin crap that sells as regular D out there. The way the game runs out here is that the shit is cut up and bagged and stamped , bricked up and sealed, several steps before it get to the end dealer. The dealer buy his shit from the brickman. Sometimes the Brickman buys his bricks from a higher up brickman. sometimes he get it from the distributor whose baggin and cuttin.
The point tho, is that these bags is tiny. Brickmen deals in large quantities of bricks to the corner guys, and they get the bricks sealed and already put together. NO dealer worth a shit, who is movin even a decent small amount of diesel, cuts his shit. The cuttin happens at the level of the distributor who is makin the stamps. They make the dope, bag it, stamp it, seal it, bundle it up, put the bundles into bricks, and seal the bricks. The brickman dont buy the bricks, open them up, peel the tape off of each bag in the brick (50 bags), pour the dope out, cut it up, re bag it, re tape it, re bundle it, re brick it , and then re seal it. These dudes be sellin orders of 50-100-150 bricks to the corner dealers. Nobody in their right mind got the time, effort, OR NEED to do that. they get th shit so cheap to begin with, and re sell it at at least a doubled profit, that it aint evne necessary.
Also, the feens out here is used to good shit. the dealers and brick men is concerned with gettin the better product becuz they know it will sell itself and business will be movin fast as hell, not only that but they can get away with chargin a extra 5 bux a bundle or sometimes even a extra dollar per bag when its reall good shit or its the best shit out at the time.
The junkies also know when a bag been fucked with. Thats why you cant even just cut the tape to open the bags. U would have to PEEL the shit off, without breakin or ripping the bag, and then empty, cut, refill the bag, and re tape it. u can pass off some fucked with bags once, or maybe a few times to a feen whose real desperate and aint got time to check the bags before he leaves the block, but it aint gonna happen mroe than that, and they will stop comin to u. Dealin in bags that had been cut again after the distributor cut and bagged them, would be suicide for business.
Anyways like i already said, that shit is time consuming as fuck, and aint really even necessary to begin with. Sure it does happen, there is lots of shady ass, LOW LOW LOW level mutha fuckas who dont know shit about shit, and they will try that to anyone desperate enough to do it but its mostly one man operations that dont last, and ppl like that is scam artists, doin onetime things to get the money and bail, and u much more likely even when cold coppin to find a legit dude who is workin with a operation or just a self made man that works with quality product. it definatly aint a industry practice or a common thing, for anybody , from the brick man to the end dealer, to cut the bags after they get them. For the most part, after those bags get made up by the distributor, they aint gettin touched, and the next person who opens them after the distributor is the end user, the junkie.
Becuz of the system that we got out here it makes it much less common for all those crazy ass things to get put in the bags, and makes the likelyhood of your product bein higher purity, much higher.
when u compare that to chi town, where the dope is just a poweder passed from dealer to dealer, it get stepped on every stop along the way. the crews is gettin the shit, and cutting it however they please from day to day, and the ppl above them is cuttin it too, and so on. When somethin is in a open , easy to mess with form like that, its much more likely to get stepped on--when its in a already bagged, already sealed, pre-packaged form like the bags out in jerz, the effort needed to mess with it is so high and the benefit of doing that aint high enough, to make it somethin worthwhile for the majority of ppl doin bizness with diesel.
Thats why when I say shit like jersey better than chicago by default, it aint some kind of regional pride shit. It aint becuz i think jersey is the shit. Its jsut that when u look at the differences in the dope trade logically it is pretty clear how it works.
On top of all that, if u didnt already consider this Newark/Elizabeth is one of the biggest ports on the east coast, and most of the diesel that enters the US from the east comes thru jerz to get here. when it comes into the US in ki's, it hits jersey first, the distributors who cut and bag and create the stamps, is gettin first dibs on the shit before it goes thru a bunch of other dealers and gets stepped on more. If you gettin a ki if heroin from the place that it got shipped into the US, its gonna be in much better shape than if yuo got a Ki' somewhere two states away, where it went from that distributor in NJ to another person to another person, etc--even tho u still dealin on the ki level it has went thru more hands. The shti we get here is goin thru less hands automatically and thats why the purity levels up here is so good even on the street level, retail.
The point when ppl is askin the best open air heroin market, alot of things is goin into that. not just the best dope, but the all around picture.
People say jersey becuz of all the shit i said in my post ,becuz A-In general, good quality heroin all around. B-How easy it is to get it C-How many places in the state have it D-becuz the ODDS of gettin GOOD SHIT, in any random situation, are the highest.
Thats the whole point--Sure there is fire shit in Chicago if you buy from teh right person and u get "raw" and bla bla bla u go thru the right channels. And sure theres garbage in jersey too.
But the idea is that in jersey, as a person with NO connects, NO knowledge of how to do shit, NO numbers or watever, you are STILL very likely, to get good shit in a unplanned, random ass cold coppin deal. Thats why we say its the best. Sure u can get fire anywhere if u know where to look and know who to go thru. But the point is that out in jersey, you can be a person who aint got none of those things, and STILL get great dope. pound for pound , in a "most likely" situation if you send someone to cop shit in chicago, they will prolly end up with some of that dormin shit, not sayin there aint no fire out there just that the real way that u can estimate the general quality of the dope game is where a person would get better shit without those connections for fire.
anyways, I know this post is long as hell but theres some ppl in here that i know is into readin shit like that and gettin indepth with it, so whoever is as interested as i am in the big picture about the dope game enjoy ...if not, skip over my post, its all good I just figure i put that out there...
