The Main 5-MAPB Thread

[Kishka]

Thanks everyone, I'm gonna try it at very low dose first and gradually up the dosage until I feel confident with this substance.

How is the increase in heart rate with this chem? Tolerable?

 

[Kl519]

It's about the same as mdma and other stimulants. It'll rise a little bit.

Ya, that's a good plan. I think you'll know what to do since you seem experienced with stuff, like mdma and not to mention DOPr...in comparison, this stuff (5 MAPB) should be a cake walk for you. Really enjoyable in the right setting and a nice alternative to mdma. Even if mdma is better, 5 MAPB is still really enjoyable on its own.

When you take the full dose, remember to space out the 5 MAPB trips by a month. That's kind of all there is to it.

 

[DroneLore]

Yes, it is soluble.
Yes, I did (IM, 50 mg + 70 mg).

Can add to post that first hour or two I just layed at coach because effects were kept and kept intensifying so few times I even thought I will puke but glad it wasn't happen.
As for re-dose 70 mg was more or less enough. But I wouldn't suggest it at first time. Even 50 mg felt enough (at least first 1.5 hrs). Shame I couldn't control myself and enjoy the trip but rather wished to make it harder (like I usually did with methylone).

Few days later after mentioned post I went into binge with 50 mg re-dosing every 1-2 hrs. Strictly don't recommend do this. While it is not only pointless and can't give you initial rush and high, it have some long-lasting nasty side-effects and can be dangerous itself (find CaptainKratom's and other's messages here).

So no rush from IV? What about 6-mapb?

Edit: Is it more euphoric than psychedelic? I'm not really interested in tripping, but quite enjoyed the few times I IVed "molly" (whatever the fuck it was). IVing methylone was a bit too much on my heart, but that may have simply been too big a dose.

Edit: Does it give you that "monged out" couch lock feel of MDMA? Assuming that's what I got, I used to love banging that.

 

[Sir Ron Pib]

Cosmic Giraffe I hope you aren't disappointed 5MAPB is similar to MDMA or similar to the "mong" - not much love empathy euphoria. A sleepy contented mong that doesn't connect to anyone. I just tried 5-APB on it's own which I actually preferred to 5-MAPB somehow but the same problem - sitting there with mad nystagmus not communication and sort of indifferent to any thing - none of the benefits or magic. Doing the 6/5 combo is definately betterif not perfect.
Think both 5-APB and 5-MAPB could probably do much better with a dose of amphetamine or other stimulant to make the almost antidepressant euphoria keener and more expansive and making it less self centered and plain lazy/soporific

 

[Innerpeace]

read the whole thread

havnt used mdma in thirteen years. This intrigues me, lets see it it stays legal long enough lol

this sample test is good stuff bc or sure people have died and we dont now whats in this stuff. test a speck- 1 mg wait twelve hours then 5 mg

6=mapb, looks like id be closer, possibly more magic like , i dont see it available though. or someone said a combo of the two

so no redosing with this stuff huh

 

[cybergollum]

So no rush from IV? What about 6-mapb?

Sorry for disappointing you but I didn't use it IV (only IM). And in my life I used drugs IV very few times so my understanding of word 'rush' can be different from yours. As for me there was some rush but since that time I did other drugs and now it is hard to say how strong it was.
I didn't try 6-mapb.

Is it more euphoric than psychedelic?

I would rather say yes than no.

Does it give you that "monged out" couch lock feel of MDMA?

Shame, I didn't try MDMA at all.

 

[Sir Ron Pib]

This is totally about "mong" and coughlock - little esle - for some thing social or psuedoempathic alcohol beats this hands down.

 

[Kl519]

I always wondered about 6 mapb too. It seemed very promising, but it's practically nonexistent. I have not ever seen it anywhere, or heard of that one being around. Was there a reason it never caught anyone's interest?

I agree on the couch lock with this one. Say if you're going to a friend's place to chill, 5 MAPB is perfect for that. If you're going out, then mdma all the way.

Personally, I felt some empathy, love and ease of conveying what I felt like saying. It was a bit enhanced (not a whole lot like mdma) and it also has that "all is well" feeling, except a little muted. Hence the mdma jr tag I put on it.

I didn't find 5 MAPB to be psychedelic at all, or mdma for that matter. It may be in the eye of the beholder, since visuals and light mental effects are there, but they are of the stimulant variety. The nystagmus is craaaazy on this one, I got it way more than mdma.

Redosing can be dangerous (as in taking like 200mg + 100mg + 100mg + 100mg...whereas 100mg + 50mg + 50 mg is not that bad, depending on experience/tolerance) because it works so damn well, so it's easy to go into danger territory (cardiotoxicity). Mdma totally didn't have that effect on me, but 5 MAPB was scary good at it.

I would like to point out again the vasoconstriction I got from redosing similar to that bad example from above. My limbs were ICE cold, that shit truly scared me I kid you not. This coming from a guy who has rollerbladed while holding a rope tied to a truck's towing hitch, going 40 mph...and my friend would fuck around and brake hard, so I'd have to go around the vehicle whenever he did...I think that's child's play compared to redosing 5 MAPB stupidly like I did.

I regretted my redose, and subsequently kept it at 150-200mg on a single dose after that. Then I'd mix it with weed.

 

[neal301]

Due to a ton of reports, would it be safe/worth it to dose say 100-150mg (i am an experienced MDMA user) orally with some dextroamphetamine (10-20mg, I am prescribed it) to simulate the stimulation from mdma?

EDIT: sex on 5-mapb? anyone?

 

[Kl519]

That's probably okay, but since it's your first time 100mg would be the highest I'd go in your position.

I'm not sure about the sex part, as I didn't try that with 5 MAPB. But your libido will rise.

 

[cybergollum]

EDIT: sex on 5-mapb? anyone?

If that counts I tried to masturbate and couldn't finish until @T+6h or smth (it wasn't like "no, I will not cum until find best porn" but rather like "when this will finally happen? I guess I can stop but it will be pointless then, I worked so much for that"). And whenever I got distracted from process I was losing boner and needed to start from beginning again and again. YMMV though.
Sorry for such details.

 

[neal301]

If that counts I tried to masturbate and couldn't finish until @T+6h or smth (it wasn't like "no, I will not cum until find best porn" but rather like "when this will finally happen? I guess I can stop but it will be pointless then, I worked so much for that"). And whenever I got distracted from process I was losing boner and needed to start from beginning again and again. YMMV though.
Sorry for such details.

Details appreciated. thats weird cause on mdma i can get off very easy and the thing I love the most about it is the nostalgia and closeness i feel to my girlfriend. very romantic its a feeling like no other and thats what i hope to get from this

EDIT: also i usually take .2-.3g of mdma (tested using reagents) so i dont see why .2 would be a bad starter dose especially cause i take amphetamines about 3 times per week and they are cross tolerant

 

[sinan]

EDIT: sex on 5-mapb? anyone?

WARNING : I'm gonna go into some personal details

Masturbation : I've had godlike jerking sessions on 5-mapb :D First time I ever tried it, went with 110+110 mg, weed and poppers. Porn never looked so good. In fact, I ended up having the greatest (anal) orgasm of my life. I couldn't hear no sounds, I couldn't see anything but a white light that I bathed in, and I couldn't feel my body, as if it melted and blended with all the matter surrounding me. It was close to nirvana. Indeed, it was so good that it became the dragon I chased for months and ended up depressed but that's another story
I once had a binge session with over 400 mg of 5-mapb and 100 mg of 5-apb; I ended up masturbating for 20 + hours. Of course, it was mostly anal masturbation because maintaining an erection is almost impossible for that long. And although I had many anal orgasms, I believe I never had a normal penile orgasm.

Sex : I tried a few times with my wife, and it was amazing. The main thing to remember though is, again, maintaining an erection is hard (I guess it's due to vasoconstriction). Plus, it's very easy to veer off course and start talking I remember one time we would fuck for 10 minutes, then talk for 15, then fuck for another 10 and talk for another 15 for hours. Cumming in the usual way is also hard. But if you don't mind that, it's not a problem, there are so many other things you can do to have fun And again, some weed and poppers makes it even more heavenly.

And in my experience the comedown can last for quite a bit, once we had sex at t+15/16 and it was still amazing. Plus, at that moment, I could finally come normally, and achieving that in your loved one's body under the influence is really gooooood.

 

[Kl519]

Details appreciated. thats weird cause on mdma i can get off very easy and the thing I love the most about it is the nostalgia and closeness i feel to my girlfriend. very romantic its a feeling like no other and thats what i hope to get from this

EDIT: also i usually take .2-.3g of mdma (tested using reagents) so i dont see why .2 would be a bad starter dose especially cause i take amphetamines about 3 times per week and they are cross tolerant

Hmm, it's just that you should be wary of idiosyncratic reactions because though mdma and 5 MAPB are very similar, they are still unique on their own. An example is how 5 MAPB and other benzofurans are considered cardiotoxic, but mdma isn't. It would be irresponsible to advise someone to take 2-3 times the normal dose of a new chem. If a mod felt like it, they would probably give me a warning if I handed out that kind of advice. <.<

Of course, you could jump right in and have a blast. For the record, I took it seriously and took an allergy dose per the advice that was on this thread. And I was a full on stim-tard before I took it. Just be as safe as possible, and have fun while you're at it.

 

[Jorgo]

Jorgo, if I understand correctly, you did ~400 mg in one day, that was your first experience with 5-mapb and
you didn't feel overwhelmed?

Yup. And I'm back to top my ~400mgs to ~800mgs in one day.

2 different doses. One large, One larger. 1.3gs. 1 day. 2 different reactions.

I got my new batch of 5-MAPB. Got a little bit extra for free as well, was around 1.3gs. I took most of that with-in a 24-hour time
frame about 3 weeks ago, while my friend took a little less than me, but still a pretty high dose.

Some of the doses and times for redose might be a little off, but mostly everything here is spot-on.

But anyways, as soon as I got it around 11:00am I insufflated and drank about 100mg all together. I wait an hour, put my headphones
on, then pretty much at around 12:00pm an Aphex Twin song came on and it triggered me and I could definitely feel the come up. Wasn't
extremely high, just felt really good and music sounded immensely better. I also started looking around my room and I remember I
abnormally started noticing my reflection in everything in my room. First the dress mirror surprised me, then my phone surprised me,
then my TV. Definitely getting higher.

Sadly though, I completely forgot I told family I would go get a haircut on the day of this adventure. Since I don't have a ride, my
family members opted to take me, but in the state I was about to possibly be in that wouldn't be wise. So, I got my friend I took
MAPB with previously to pick me up and then off I go around 12:30 to get that done.

12:50PM, I wait in line to get my haircut done while my friend goes to buy another scale. Still have the good come-up feeling,
although I'm a little worried I might get higher right during the hair cutting. But, I start listening to more hype music again and
now I'm actually steps away from laughing cause the idea of getting a haircut high was killing me.
Then I get sat down and realize there's gonna be a giant mirror in front of me this entire time and I slightly get terrified.
Luckily I'm able to control myself and just make it enjoyable. I made sure the haircut was perfect (something I'd never normally care
about), made way too much conversation with a fat barber and left.

My friend picks me up and we decide to go to the mall. I'm pretty sure my friend took a very small amount of the good stuff before he picked me up, but
it wasn't a noticeable amount and he's my bro so hey.

We both insufflate about 50mg more at around 1:30pm, and then we go into the mall. Wasn't sure what feeling I was
gonna expect after redosing, but I'd say about 15-20 minutes later I felt great again. Now actually a new effect was happening that
happened the first time I took 5-MAPB, EVERYTHING ABOUT MY SHITTY CITY STARTS TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL AND COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. The mall looked kind of like an actual mall, not just the 1 story run-down mall it really is. Kinda how
when I took MAPB and went through the Nature Trail here (which isn't the nicest looking one) and I thought every tree and bridge on
it wasn't there before.

We leave the mall around 2:15, go to a parking lot, then decide to prepare 200mg. I parachute mine immediately, while my friend saves
it, cause he has to get his oil changed and just rather take it later while he's waiting for that.

I was dropped back off at my house around 3:00pm, and my friend eventually took his 200mg while he waited for the oil to get changed.

I'm just in my room, starting to feel the come-up again, playing games, when all of a sudden at 4:00pm I get a high kill alert. A text
from my boss asking me "are you ok?". Panic sets in immediately cause yeah A) I'm high B) I have no fucking clue what he is talking
about. Drug anxiety kicks in, and for about 30 minutes I'm trying to figure out what my manager is talking about. Luckily my manager calls me and says it was a misunderstanding, too late though, cause I start fearing that might blew my high

Lo and behold, a plug.dj group starts where they do a listen-along to the Death Grips album Exmilitary which started at exactly
5:00pm that day, and as soon as I start listening to it from beginning to end with a bunch of other people I suddenly feel A LOT higher than I
ever did with the first or second time I took this RC. It was extremely uplifting and awesome. Actually had euphoria all over. I
started having happy conversations with everyone in chat that I never would of had (cause ever since twitch.tv spam, never again).

Now this is when the redose spree begins (for me at least)

So just a quick recap of the current doses before the next part


Me: 300mg
Friend:200mg (possibly a little bit more)



I call my friend and he is still waiting for his oil change, so while I'm enjoying plug.dj I decide to take some more MAPB so
I'll be hype when my friend shows up. Really enjoying the music and still pretty high, so why not. So I just take some orally and
insufflated A BUNCH more. Can't give you exact mgs here, cause my friends still got my scale. It definitely was somewhere around
200mg.

At 6:00pm, album listen-a-long ends, and honestly by the end of that and all the redoses I can seriously say it was one of the best highs
I've ever had.


Now, its around 6:30pm. Kinda worried I haven't heard from him after he took 200mgs and said he'd be back soon. Really though I am
still so high and happy at this point that I just assumed he was hanging with his girlfriend or something. (Soon later though, it was found out he just fell asleep at his house cause he was extremely tired and he took something else with the MAPB, will get more intel about this later)


SIDENOTE: Now I really got no clue the times or the exact amounts I redosed with, so to put this into perspective, by the time of
7:00pm, I have taken 500mg. Friend has taken 200mg. Theres about 600mg left. Also, amazingly for about
6+ hours I maintained a comfortable high, contrary to many other reports I've seen.



So its now 7:00pm. And I'm still pretty ecstatic, feel-good, and I still want to get high. Screw it I say. I still got some MAPB
right here, and well I was fine the 1st time, I'll roll the dice.

I'd say from 7:30pm to 10:00pm I started slowly taking some of the rest of it. Wait 15 minutes, insufflate. Wait 30 minutes,
parachute. Kind of on and off with small amounts. It's like I was feeling the come-up mixed with what I was feeling earlier around
5:00pm but not as strong, which was still great and worth it. A girl even convinced me to watch a shitty vampire flick I was so fucked.

Gonna assume I did around 200mgs 7:30pm to 10:00pm.

10:00PM I still feel wide awake. Feel still overly comfortable, and started noticing my faces in mirrors again.

1:00AM-4:00AM I remember coming down around this time. But nah its never too late to stop. For my entire night through that point I pretty much was just taking extremely small doses of the MAPB and watching TV, which now admittedly, was probably a huge waste.


I fell asleep someone around 5:00am. Had an abnormaly vivid dream (which wasn't nightmarish or anything so it was k) and I actually had another nice after-glow the day after.

My friend also had a vivid dream as well, and not the good kind, but still not a big deal at all.


After a week me and my friend asked each other if we had any other weird after-affects. The only thing we could think of is that we both had some vivid dreams for a short while and had to take shits. A lot.

Been 3+ weeks now and feel completely normal.

 

[Kl519]

^Be careful man. Some people can go through abuse of a drug and come out fine. Some can't, and shouldn't anyway.

Your post will represent an example of what most people should not do. You may be fine and have no ill effects whatsoever, but that's still pretty dangerous, especially with a cardiotoxic-labeled RC like this one. Not everyone will be as sturdy and lucky as you are.

I see that you fell into the redosing factor. I'm not sure what you mean by contrary to other reports, because mostly everyone confirmed that redosing works like a charm. That's where the inherent danger is though.

You may be safe, but what you did wasn't safe. In any case, be safe.

 

[Jorgo]

^Be careful man. Some people can go through abuse of a drug and come out fine. Some can't, and shouldn't anyway.

Your post will represent an example of what most people should not do. You may be fine and have no ill effects whatsoever, but that's still pretty dangerous, especially with a cardiotoxic-labeled RC like this one. Not everyone will be as sturdy and lucky as you are.

I see that you fell into the redosing factor. I'm not sure what you mean by contrary to other reports, because mostly everyone confirmed that redosing works like a charm. That's where the inherent danger is though.

You may be safe, but what you did wasn't safe. In any case, be safe.

Definitely wouldn't recommend doing what I did to anyone. Just posting what happened in my experience. Getting more soon, will see what happens again

And I thought most people were saying redosing especially over a long time is almost pointless? Oh well, wasn't in my case

 

[Innerpeace]

Definitely wouldn't recommend doing what I did to anyone. Just posting what happened in my experience. Getting more soon, will see what happens again

And I thought most people were saying redosing especially over a long time is almost pointless? Oh well, wasn't in my case

what you did again is what someone should not do, its irresponsible, someone had to say it

thats why stuff gets banned, use it once every 3-6 months , and your fine, same with mdma or any others. People end of in hospital , people said what they took, people talk, news gets a hold of it, reports this substanced caused so and so to die and viola people beleive something harmless that causes positive things causes death bc of a news report and irresponsible

all that said, why isnt it advised NOT to redose of 5-mapb but its okay on mdma? cardiotoxity? vascoconstriction- cold hands, feet-etc?

 

[Jorgo]

what you did again is what someone should not do, its irresponsible, someone had to say it

thats why stuff gets banned, use it once every 3-6 months , and your fine, same with mdma or any others. People end of in hospital , people said what they took, people talk, news gets a hold of it, reports this substanced caused so and so to die and viola people beleive something harmless that causes positive things causes death bc of a news report and irresponsible

all that said, why isnt it advised NOT to redose of 5-mapb but its okay on mdma? cardiotoxity? vascoconstriction- cold hands, feet-etc?

That's what I said. Isn't it irresponsible to do in the first place? Didn't go to the hospital lol

Sorry for getting 5-MAPB banned for all of you guys, the cops don't have Google and we're a secret club

EDIT: Seriously this thread has a lot of negative energy. Was just posting a report. Didn't condone it or anything. Posted this in other places and got thank you responses, posted it here and I'm a narc

 

[Kl519]

what you did again is what someone should not do, its irresponsible, someone had to say it

thats why stuff gets banned, use it once every 3-6 months , and your fine, same with mdma or any others. People end of in hospital , people said what they took, people talk, news gets a hold of it, reports this substanced caused so and so to die and viola people beleive something harmless that causes positive things causes death bc of a news report and irresponsible

all that said, why isnt it advised NOT to redose of 5-mapb but its okay on mdma? cardiotoxity? vascoconstriction- cold hands, feet-etc?

I made an example on the page before this, but basically, redosing is probably fine if you keep the total within a reasonable amount (say 200-300mg max for an experienced user). I think I went to 400mg max, or somewhere around there, and I regretted it. I didn't feel the cardiotoxic effects, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Instead, I felt really bad vasoconstriction that was no joke. My limbs were numb during the latter part of the trip, which I never got from anything before. I've taken over a dozen pills of strong mdma at once in my heyday, and in comparison I felt fine physically on and after that (though that was idiotic too).

There was a very informational post by CaptainKratom in this thread detailing a study that found the benzofurans to be cardiotoxic. Whether that happens on a normal dose or not remains unclear (probably not), but it's clear that huge doses or constant redosing would increase that chance by a lot. Abuse would lead to the same kind of damage too. Heart problems are very serious health conditions.

Redosing by the hundreds should be avoided simply because it works so well, and it makes it all the more easier to overdose on this stuff.

With that done, 5 MAPB is considered relatively safe if one follows the safety rules and guidelines in this thread. Which is simply don't take too much and space out trips similar to mdma. At first, these benzofurans gained popularity because of it becoming a solid mdma replacement without mdma's neurotoxic effects. And then bam! As a trade off, these benzofurans have cardiotoxic effects instead. Which sucks, really.