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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy LSZ Thread

Very interesting @Darkstorn. I'm really looking forward to try this one. How long did your trip last approximately? Have you taken 450mcg's at once or with staggered dosing?

Thanks :)
 
I'd say it doesn't last quite as long as LSD; But the come up is longer and smoother, and the miniscule body load makes gauging the coming down even more difficult.

And i did them all at once; I wouldn't recommend this simply because it doesn't give you any idea how well just one blotter would work. Plus there's a chance it's dangerous even if unlikely; It at least should be equally safe compared to LSD.
 
Yeah, of course. Tbh i think it's somewhat careless just dropping 450mcgs of LSZ for a first time experience, but i've neither even thought about taking 700mcgs of Lucy, so... ;)

Thanks for your input! Sounds good and i really enjoyed reading some more about this one. I just don't understand why everyones heading straight to AL-LAD instead of this one?
 
imo AL-LAD sounds a little better by mass, but i've got both. Will probably try LSZ first though
 
THCified said:
Yeah, of course. Tbh i think it's somewhat careless just dropping 450mcgs of LSZ for a first time experience, but i've neither even thought about taking 700mcgs of Lucy, so... ;)

Thanks for your input! Sounds good and i really enjoyed reading some more about this one. I just don't understand why everyones heading straight to AL-LAD instead of this one?
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Because AL-LAD was available 'publicly' first. Up until extremely recently the only way to get LSZ was within a private closed circle. not in the circle, no lsz for you.
 
Did anyone get a bit of bodyload on LSZ, relative to LSD or AL-LAD? I tried it once at 150mcg, and have mixed feelings about the experience. I found the effects to be rather subdued, compared to LSD or AL-LAD, although tolerance probably played a part in that.

What I definitely did not like, though, was the muscle stiffness, and tingling in extremities, as well as a general sense of feeling "off", physically. I have probably experienced worse on some of my LSD trips, but it was enough to make me glad that I did not take more that day.

I would like to dose it higher, but the physical discomfort I experienced makes me think twice about that.
 
It sounds pretty dissociative according to darkstorn's description, doesn't it?
 
^ Yes, but perhaps not any more dissociative than a few hundred mics of LSD?
 
I did 150mcg and found it be a bit weak for my taste.
It took a long time to start, I could feel something pretty quick but it didn't stop increasing until 2h45min to 3 hour mark. It came slowly and then peaked pretty fast and slowly started to fade, but it was all slow and bit hard to keep track of.
I often felt that everything was slow and I was impatient which might have been because I was somewhere in the middle of full blow tripping and just being weird. The only body load was a bit of stale neck that might have been anything to sweating a lot.

It was a bit weird because I was very clear headed and at the same time tripping.
I think it has potential for higher doses and might be fun.

But this was only one experince and who knows.

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I was tripping but it just wasn't enough for me and that might be why I felt impatient. When you know that you are almost there but it just won't get you all the way.
 
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If someone took 'liquid acid' on sunday and then took 150ug of this on the following saturday while only using mdma on the friday immediatly before LSZ; should they still trip a little?
I haven't the chance to try it but I gave some tabs to some friends and while the 2 guys kind of tripped, it was minimal and the girls didn't at all.
 
MDMA itself will cause some tolerance to psychedelics, and LSD might still have some lingering tolerance after 6 days too. Add the fact that 150ug is not a super strong dose and I think this could explain your lack of results.
 
kalle said:
It was a bit weird because I was very clear headed and at the same time tripping.
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That's interestingly exactly the same as i felt when i tried 150mcg's of AL-LAD. I think those two, LSZ and AL-LAD, need higher dosage, otherwise you're caught in this horrible 'in-between'-realm, which is absolutely disgusting :X
 
THCified said:
That's interestingly exactly the same as i felt when i tried 150mcg's of AL-LAD. I think those two, LSZ and AL-LAD, need higher dosage, otherwise you're caught in this horrible 'in-between'-realm, which is absolutely disgusting :X
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Could be right. All I got from 150 mcg AL-LAD was tremors and very little in the way of visuals, none worth mentioning really. I would almost think it was an NBOME blotter that absorbed through my mouth when I was chewing on the blotter for a while but I didn't get nauseous like on NBOMEs. Two or Three blotters might have given a better visuals to tremors ratio.
 
This one is next on my list, wonder how it compares to AL-LAD. Will write a small comparison afterwards (wont be that soon... tolerance + delivery time ... )

And next maybe even AL-LAD and LSZ.
 
THCified said:
That's interestingly exactly the same as i felt when i tried 150mcg's of AL-LAD. I think those two, LSZ and AL-LAD, need higher dosage, otherwise you're caught in this horrible 'in-between'-realm, which is absolutely disgusting :X
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i dont think so really... i think this in between is precisely an effect of the substance (al lad). a kind of disassociation between your conciousness and tripping brain. i was obviously tripping with full on visuals but at the same time oberving myself trip. weird but interesting at the same time
 
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