2C-I isn't really an Entheogen.
There was this one night, a while back, when a good friend and I kept re-dosing 2c-i, over and over, throughout the night. I don't recommend this though! But hell, its what we did, and although 2c-i is one of those chems that right now is sorta "in the back" of my "cabinet" of choices, that one night was one of the best and spiritual trips i've ever had.
What we ended up doing, is starting out with a 20mg dose. After the plateau was reached, or had been going for a while, after the come-up stimulation had passed, is when we would re-dose. I think the first re-dose was 15mg, and the rest after that were 20mg. Anyway, so far nothing has come close to what i've seen, and experienced with that person that night. There was some short-term memory problems though, that I mostly assume were from the massive intake of 2c-i - and whoa what a hangover after that. Not so much a hangover, just, a LOT of sleeping. We had done so many things during that night that its pointless to try and even list them all, or even write a report, we were going to, but we just look at each other and say, all we can say is "wow". We would be in deep discussion (the friend of mine is female by the way, although not the 'typical' female if ya know what i mean haha, but even so we don't usually get into THESE discussions), SO deep into something where we would be using words like, "so when we are on this other dimention here, and ...what the hell are we talking about??" (the memory problems). Whatever we would talk about we both understood completely, and the whole night we seemed to be in sync with each other (feeling this way or that way, effects of the drug, whatever). At one point she had some paper and was in the bathroom, writing extremely fast, it was not english, but I understood it when she was writing it, and she was writing so fast she didnt have time to get more paper, and would just continue to write on the floor of the bathroom. It reminded me of when I would be writing on mushrooms, and my handwriting would start to change, into a wierd style, that same damn style, when that wierd universal information was coming out, and it would go from starting out in english, to more towards looking 'gibberish' on the page, yet has total meaning when i'm writing it. Anyway, we could look at each other, and both of us saw our faces change into many other faces, I recall her face change into my sisters face first, then another close female friend of mine, and many others, and it was the most i guess, "real" looking thing i've ever seen tripping. It was as if her facial movements, the bones and all that behind the skin, well her face would have a new "skin" morphed on, and it looked exactly like my sister, and when she moved or talked, the facial movements would move the new face in a so exact way it was incredible. There was this bluish 'tunnel' vision that seemed to surround her face at this time, and well a lot of other times throughout the night (sometimes it literally felt like our brains were connected, we could mentally say something, and the other hear it, etc.).
It seemed as though this re-dosing thing, waiting for the come up stimulant/other effects to end, and then re-dosing, brought us up to some level that is well, beyond words really, and it was NOT anything like a typical 2c-i trip (25mg and under for me i guess). Incredible night, but yeah, there were some definite short term memory problems, thats for sure! Although nothing long term (i remember much of the night, even without memory problems just sober, the number of different things we did that night would be hard to remember the WHOLE night). But yeah even with various 2c-e doses and such, 2c-d (although i haven't tried above 70mg, but this is a goooood one), blah, nothing would come close to that night with these chems, unless some sort of mixing and re-dosing thing went on. Which also another thing you said got my attention:
I have found 2C-E with fresh mushrooms might be the "golden gun" I have been looking for.
I just recently was "re-introduced" to mushrooms, as its been quite a while, and I had some mushroom tea I sipped on made by a friend, and it reminded me of how earthy, and just... well I wrote this big thing on why it seems as though nothing created by humans, and I do not mean synthetic psilocin/synthetic anything already in nature before, could come close to what I get from mushrooms (I know there is more in mushrooms besides psilocybin/psilocin, but i think some synthetic psilocybin or the 4-Aco-DMT would do hehehe). I can order 4-Aco/ho-DET or whatever, which might have some similar visuals and all that, but its that damn whatever-DMT.. anyway... I just this last weekend tripped on mushrooms (the tea, at first i thought, why not just eat the stuff? but this way is actually nice) with these two sorta-new friends, and we talked about life and things, we all had the same universal thinking, like universal knowledge/etc. Nothing comes close to mushrooms (or if i could just order f'ing 4-Aco-DMT or whatever i'd buy a shitload haha). Although mushrooms seem just fine on their own, i'm now curious about this 2c-e combination....
The only 'chemical' I could ever order online, that felt so, perfect, is 5-Meo-DMT. Both that and mushrooms give me this body 'buzz' that feels perfectly right, more like "love" than a buzz, just feels like the perfect key fitting into perfect holes or whatever.. I'm open to this 2c-e combo though! I've smoked 5-meo-DMT while on many of these human-created synthetics and its always been great (5-meo-dmt is always great for me, although I still have not smoked enough to go into that white light/void thing yet, although i'd say close, but I know that will be great too, nothing to fear but making sure the setting is right and all that, so i don't drop the pipe/etc..and fear itself haha - there ain't gonna be a such thing as fear where i'd be going anyway, but i'm more like, come and get me baby! here's my brain, i'm letting it all go!)
Wow, how far off topic I go, where I actually had to scroll up and see what the fuck is the thread i'm replying supposed to be about? How often do you trip. Well to me, those couple mushroom trips were just totally different than, when I will sometimes frequently take a dose of x chem at dose y to see what that does. Or, now, chem x at y dose mixed with chem i at j dose. I'm not doing that too frequently, but when I do, usually i wouldn't call those actual "trips". Maybe change some perceptions a little, but not like those meaningful "trips", I could not take mushrooms every week for some "fun", if i took those out of boredom or whatever, no real reason, i'd get some kind of mental kick in the ass for doing so. I guess with me, what i'd consider those "real" trips, are usually not frequent, and the occasional time they might be only separated by a week or two, is because of getting a certain person involved etc. Some real reason for doing so.
Now for whats "right" and "wrong" that all depends on the person! I can see for example, the "doctor" or "healer" type, being the one who would eat the mushrooms or whatever, to treat the person that needs help. I have had times when I was tripping, and i'm able to "trip out" a person, just by looking at them, and saying a certain thing. Kind of funny, being able to 'freak out' a sober person, and your the one on drugs! I've been also tripping, and noticed that there have been times when people would come to me, and start talking about a problem, and I don't know if its the large ass pupils that has some kind of unconscious effect on them, or just that they know i'm
really listening... but whatever way, my state of mind definitely would have an impact on the way they would act (start crying for ex.) and change the way I act to make them feel better/help/etc.
Once again, a long ass post by yaesutom! To think, I mostly quit smoking pot a while ago too..no reason, but jeeze, time to take a fucking Dexedrine, so i can go to bed (haha!).
