The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread

[SuperPsych]

Thanks for the responses guys. I love 5-MeO-Mipt for what it is, but the thought of some 4-FA with some Moxy mixed in makes me drool a bit. I'll most likely just stick with the 5-MeO-Mipt, but I would still love to hear any experiences mixing 5-MeO-Mipt with stimulants. The only thing I ever mixed it with was with some 2ce which was very nice.

 

[Venrak]

5meomipt+2cp ? i think i read in a thread that it was risky but can't find it...
im thinking on doing this next week but can't find info on the combo

Haha when my order comes in I'll get around to this too.

going to stagger the doses so they come down around the same time.

 

[mozokev]

Wow, just have to say that the stimulation is unbelievable at 10mgs for me. How are you guys doing more? Also, does it become visual at higher doses?

 

[Survived Abortion]

Yes, it becomes profoundly visual with open eyes at higher doses - wonderfully so - but you also have to endure a much greater body-load. I have had moments where the body-load on 5-MeO-MiPT has scared me.

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

Yes, it becomes profoundly visual with open eyes at higher doses - wonderfully so - but you also have to endure a much greater body-load. I have had moments where the body-load on 5-MeO-MiPT has scared me.

Same here. I've done 17mgs and there were a few times during that trip where I was a bit worried. The stimulation and body load can get to be very difficult to handle. I feel terrible for anyone that has jumped into 5-MeO-MIPT at that level.

 

[Dragon-n]

I put the powder in a stainless steel tablespoon measure, heated the bottom, and sucked the vapor through a hollowed out pen casing.
two 2 mg. sessions yielded threshold effects...a not entirely pleasant stoning in the head and nothing else. heart rate went to 95 BPM, but other than that, no physical effects noted. packed a 5 mg. bowl and proceeded to inhale the whole thing in 4 sloppy hits. (it's hard vaporizing on a spoon!)

within 1 minute, it was completely washing over me. very, very DMT-like in it's insistence. to be honest, i was not expecting such a heavy tryptamine swarm of thought. though not entirely unpleasant or forceful, i remember thinking, "oh man, i don't like tryptamines very much! i should just ditch this whole batch, i can't wait for this to be over...."

it was never truly overwhelming, it's just that i'm not used to things coming on in a minute!!!! (been awhile since my smoked DMT days...)
after a minute, i thought, "the only thing i need to do to enjoy this is accept the tremor of energy in my spine." so i layed down flat, released to the flow, and was blissfully swept away for a full hour with eyes closed, hardly coming out at all. it peaked for about 45 minutes, though the "rush" thankfully subsided after about 15 minutes. other than a somewhat speedy heart beat, strange (but mild) twitching sensations, and strong energy tremor, the 5-meo-mipt was entirely pleasant.
very very little body load at that dosage compared to most pure chemicals. and relatively no mind-fuck compared to it's more powerful siblings.

the after glow lasted another 2 hours after the peak, and was very very enjoyable. super blissed-out MDMA type euphoria, my body just felt GREAT! it's cool that you can climb the dose so slowly with smoking it, there is little to no tolerance, so you can get where you want to go fairly accurately.
i think next time i'll try a tiny dose oral just to experience a smoother, more drawn out come up.
honestly, i don't think the peak would have overwhelming in the slightest bit had that 60 seconds been drawn out 60 minutes! =)

but still, seems very worthwhile to be able to trip hard in one minute if you'd like. especially since it lasts for 3 hours, rather than 10-30 minutes for DMT and 5-meo-dmt.

after the initial fear, i must admit that i'm quite taken by how amazing the tryptamine mind-set is. it's undoubtably far, far deeper than most phens could ever take you.....it's just a little less friendly, in my experience, and makes it harder to navigate, for me, because of that. i remember thinking in the trance, "i didn't know it was possible for my brain to work this way!" i also remember feeling like the energy was showing me how to leave my body...was sort of hinting at an out-of-body experience, though, the dose being relatively low, i wasn't able to fully follow through. but truly, the "blueprints to the starship" really do lie somewhere in the tryptamines!

 

[steingalkrs]

My personal experience is to use 5-meo-mipt in the end of whatever you have been doing, it's like a sealer for the night. I can't really think of any compunds I have been using that a MIPT in the end doesn't make it perfect. Starting a night with MIPT I do not find very interesting as it kinda makes you quite mellow.

Another one, if MIPT is the only way to go - a 5mg oral dose together with psy trance music or electro house dancing while the MIPT kicks in and you will have your own MDMA in my opinion - this compund makes you able to chose to be mellow or energized.

 

[Dragon-n]

tried an my first oral dose last night. 4 mgs. split up over an hour.
okay THERE is the MDMA-style, moaning-and-groaning goodness!

oral vs. smoked is a completely different beast, in my opinion. smoked is much more disorientating, drugging, and "far out," for me. very DMT-like. never tried 5-meo-dmt, but i can imagine now. it's not visionary, like N-N DMT, just like a mental void of thought/consciousness.
oral was smooth as butter, no anxiety, no body load. my heart-rate was actually only 70 BPM as i was peaking. even the most benign molecules make my heart go up to at least 80-85 BPM. my resting heart rate is normally 60-65.

could definitely feel the distinct phases of it. coming up was definitely a "tryptamine roll," as has been said. and once the rush subsided, what was left was an entirely pleasant and surprisingly deep state of introspection and contemplation that was very reminiscent of the after-effects of medium/high dose mushrooms. it's like that phase in a mushrooms trip when the peak has ended and that "overly intense" feeling subsides, and you're left with that beautifully positive, trippy glow, in which you still have access to deep insight and light visuals, without feeling like you're on the "front lines" still.

i appreciated the low dose, as the speedy effects were minimal. i was, mentally, at a high plus 2, or a low plus 3. i could imagine higher doses being unpleasantly stimulating, and will personally never be going over 6 mgs. or so. in my experience, there's little to be gained from pushing a molecule outside of it's "comfort zone," where the enhanced mental effects don't justify the physical toll.

after about 1 1/2 or 2 hours of the "trippy" phase, it went back to it's MDMA-style phase and gave an amazing afterglow. fell asleep easily only 4-5 hours after dosing. definitely had a tryptamine feel, but honestly, the afterglow was almost deceivingly phen-like. it's definitely trippy, but my god, it is groovy, like phen-groovy for sure. in fact, the only molecule i've ever encountered that is THAT groovy and THAT trippy at the same time is mescaline.

for me, anyway: MDMA is just straight groovy. MDA is 90% groovy, 10% trippy. mescaline is like 70% trippy, 30% groovy. 5-meo-mipt was very reminiscent of cactus on the come-down, for me.

staggering the dose made it much smoother, i think. don't underestimate the energy-push this guy can bring.
find it where it's good and don't push your limits too far! it doesn't seem like one to forgive, when it comes to irrational dosage presumptions!

 

[PowerFarts]

Tolerance related post here.
Took 20mg of the 5 meo mipt Saturday with my brother, I had a great time, my brother said he felt more buzzed off it last time when we took 15mg, but he was getting drunk off his ass with rum and beer also, he drank away his trip and wiped his bike a few times and hurt his arm too, I made a point to keep beer consumption low and had 5-6 beers with him and drank lots of sports drinks and water.

Sunday night, all alone tonight, what to do, wanted to test the tactile ability of this stuff, went on the net to see if I can trip 2 days in a row, couldn't find much.
So to hell with it, I will find out my self, took 15mg, then 40 min later took 5 more.
I got pretty buzzed, then watched porn, (I had to do this) I completely wore out my dick.
Awesome!

So, I got buzzed pretty good the next day, although the body load felt ever so slightly greater and the buzz felt not completely up to par with the amount taken, but then again I was furiously massaging my snake and got hot and worn out.

I did prove to myself that tolerance does not happen that quickly.

 

[Pasht]

Greetings! It's my first post but sadly instead of contribution I have some questions. I'm going to buy some moxy, but the vendor has only freebase (white powder). I read earlier that moxy in this form is rarely available, is it cause for suspicion? Will it be weaker than salt? Can I snort/bomb/plug it (I don't want to smoke it)?

 

[Pasht]

Thanks for answer. I would drop/plug it first to make myself familiar with the substance. Also I think plugging will be preferable to oral roa, in order to avoid body load/nausea. I'll try vaping it later (since onset is very fast with this roa, i don't want to feel overwhelmed by the experience - have tried 5-meo-dipt though). Vaporizing such a small amount of chemical can be cumbersome outdoors, what do you think about making a herbal blend out of it (thinking it over it's actually good that I have it as freebase), just dissolving moxy in acetone and spreading it on some herbs? Would 100mg per gram yield a potent mixture (i'm talking about pronounced effects from taking one good hit)? And just in case, this is for personal use, i'm not going to sell it, i just have this questions because i lack in experience here.

 

[mozokev]

I've always thought about laying this on some bud but am afraid of it not being evenly distributed. Also, the freebase will degrade faster than the HCl so you should keep it properly stored if you're planning on holding onto it for a while. I'm not sure how fast that is considering that the 5-meo-substituted tryptamines are more stable than the 4-subbed tryptamines, iirc.

 

[SuperPsych]

Has anybody tried combining this with 25i-NBOMe? I imagine this combo can either be a train wreck or absolutely orgasmic. Please share your experience if you have. Did it feel unhealthy? Was the stimulation overpowering?

 

[Pasht]

I tried vaping moxy off foil. The taste is unpleasant, but manageable. Nice, relaxed state, definite tryptamine buzz. But came to stupid idea of mixing it with 2c-p... overdid it. Bad trip. Crash. Not recommended!

 

[biffhenderson]

Phase one:

8 milligram of 5-MeO-MiPT fumarate, a beige powder, slightly clumpy, easily dissolved into 5 milliliter of warm Vodka which was mixed into a fruit smoothie. Being the cautious man that I am, I drank 60% of it and waited about 90 minutes to finish it since this is a new compound to me. First alerts in 20 minutes, low +++ in 90. I had no nausea and only a minor amount of GI rumbling later in the experience, but I have a cast-iron constitution. No jaw clenching, no muscle tension and no amphetamine effect in contrast to the 2C-I I tested a few weeks ago. The body buzz is noticeable and pleasant.

The 2C-I was a stim in addition to a psychedelic, making me want to get up and do things. The 5-MeO effect is more sedative by comparison, and more stoning. More coach-lock. I tried dancing and felt light-headed and my sense of balance was off. Shades of alcohol-like intoxication. I finally got up and got a musical instrument going and glad I did. Over several hours of exploration I wandered in musical directions outside of the well-worn paths. I felt creative. But my musical timing was off, hitting notes before and after the beat, a little like being drunk.

Some posts early in this thread talked about "dark" experiences, I didn't see any of that. Shrooms can really poke the anxiety button for me and on higher doses sometimes dark and scary thoughts can emerge. But I got none of that on this compound. The experience was entirely pleasant. No anorexia, food was delicious. No confusion or mindfuck. But no cosmic conscienceness become one with the universe or anything. Without going into detail, the erotic was effective, enhanced by the thoroughly pleasant body buzz, borderline spectacular.

Phase two:

At around 5 hours as the plateau just started to declined I eyeballed about 10 milligram into the bong on top of some cannabis. Kids, don't do this at home. Don't eyeball, use a scale. The smoke has a plastic kind of taste, not awful, that reminds me a little of 5-MeO-DMT. Upon release in 10 seconds you get an extremely nice body rush and a wave of psychedelia as you go to the next level. That felt so good I had to do it again. I thought of that word "fiendy" from the first post in this thread, because I went back several more times, loading an eye-balled amount of 5-MeO-sexfiend into the bong and blasting off higher and higher. The physical pleasure from the erotic while doing this can be substantial. Enough said.

 

[BigBirdK]

Any serious recommendations for storing 5-MeO-MiPT? And anyone ever heard of a 10 panel screen or a screen in general that hits a metabolite of the substance?

 

[Survived Abortion]

My moxy has been stored as a powder at room temperature in baggies (double bagged). It is still as potent as the day I got it. My room gets pretty damn hot in the summer too, it's like a furnace in here.

I will put some in to solution for ease of storage and dosing, and just to generally keep things tidy and consistent, but anything stored as a powder will still be fine. Just keep it away from obvious moisture and heat sources, and it will be fine.

I can't help you on the 10-panel drug screen, but I very much doubt it will show up as anything.

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

Any serious recommendations for storing 5-MeO-MiPT? And anyone ever heard of a 10 panel screen or a screen in general that hits a metabolite of the substance?

I usually keep mine in a fridge in a plastic container, in zipped baggies and have never noticed any problems with it. I've recently had some in a closet at room temperature for a couple weeks and am hoping it hasn't hurt it. I'm pretty sure it'll be fine like this at least for a couple months.

 

[Sp33dy]

I want to warn anyone who plans on trying this chemical to proceed with extreme caution and don't even think about measuring without a mg scale. The difference between 10mg and 20mg and god forbid 30mg is HUGE. Huge as in a possible trip to the hospital due to the possibility of a stroke or a heart attack due to the extreme vasoconstriction that occurs.

Hospitalization was almost required after foolishly redosing another 10-15mg after a delayed onset from an original 10mg. Experienced first obvious +4...without pleasure at all. Lips turned blue and was on the verge of having a heart attack. All that could be done was let go and ride it out, scared shitless. 1 pupil obviously larger than other didn't help. Had extreme anxiety and felt like breathing was about to come to a hault. Was not a pleasant experience and quite frankly 5-meo-mipt will never be touched again lol. Watching wife paint while slow, new age music being played in the background only added grief to dieing much to early in life. Nobody at risk for stroke or heart attack needs to exceed 10mg of this stuff. This was 99% 5-meo-mipt hcl from an extremely reputable vendor a few short months ago.

Be CAREFUL with this stuff. I cannot stress this enough.

 

[wayab]

maan i cant imagine the come up of 30mgs
recently i tried 20mg and even though the trip was pretty mellow and not so diffrent than 17mg the come up was too intense
17mg is my upper limit but is just as good at 10-15