I found it to be an ok tryptamine, not really bad but there are a lot of better ones out there. From the 4aco‘s I’ve tried I found only 4aco-mipt less interesting.
What did you find lacking with it?
I tried it at 21mg orally in a capsule yesterday at the start of a hike in a beautiful state park on a beautiful day after a thunderstorm. The sun came out in patches between billowing cumulous clouds. The trail was full of all sorts of wildflowers and the sun was shining through the grass and other plant. First alerts were at ~20 minutes and then at ~35 minutes the effects started building rapidly. I stopped at a bench for the next 30-60 minutes to focus on opening up to the rapidly increasing changes. Like others have mentioned there was a focus on the visual. Colors became more and more bright, vivid and saturated, and along with this an appreciation of the beauty. There was some physical intensity as the feelings in the heart center and gut increased and then an integration of those centers of feeling happened where "I" transitioned from being an observer of those centers to those centers being a part of "me". I noticed a brief moment of nausea that corresponded to a moment of resisting that integration (an old fear of being overwhelmed by the intimacy with my own feeling centers that quickly passed. In the past this would have been more difficult and taken up more time in the trip.
My watch died and I lost my pen, so I was unable to keep track of time or take careful notes. I believe the peak happened at about 1.5-2 hr after ingestion. There were DMT like closed eye visuals at the peak - images made of many fine lines of simple colors with a dark background. Around the peak I felt like I could have closed my eyes, laid down and fallen into another universe. I'm curious what would have happened had I gone with that, however I was with my girlfriend on a hike and had the intention of being more extroverted. Next time I may take a higher dose alone and see if that other universe is available.
The previous week I had spent a lot of time creating midjourney ai images in the style of different impressionist painters and this seemed to influence the aesthetic of the visual landscape of the park. I spent some time talking with my girlfriend and looking out at a large landscape and it was like a living impressionist painting perhaps a mix of monet and van gogh. I was deeply affected by the beauty, I don't know how to explain it except to speak in cliches like it was unbelievably wonderfully amazingly beautiful.
During the ramp up to the peak and at the peak I was able to talk to my girlfriend. We talked about some difficult relationship issues. After the peak we started hiking again and continued to talk about our relationship and other things. I noticed something that I feel with almost every trip on every psychedelic, a sense of deep wellbeing that inhibits reactivity. I was able to hear difficult things without the usual defenses. I seemed more clearheaded doing this than with 2C-B or TMA-2. With those substances I seemed to get pulled out of my own experience and deeply drawn into a representation of my girlfriend's mind. This useful for understanding/empathizing with her but reduced my own self-awareness.
Along the way there were great big majestic oak trees, gold finches, boston oriels, a golden iridescent daddy long legs, blue herons and even a pair of sand hill cranes that walked with us for a way and then took off together to fly across the valley. I felt so much gratitude to see these creatures and the landscape, the flowers and clouds and trees.
I love to run and I went on about an 8 mile run with my girlfriend biking along. It felt easier than normal, there are signals of discomfort the body sends when running up hills or after running for a while and these were greatly diminished. I felt full of energy and was making jokes about drinking beers with my bat boys and eating lighting bugs. I felt really close with my girlfriend and she could feel it too. She is a therapist and said something like, "people who are tripping make the best therapists" (she sometimes volunteers at festivials to help with tripping people who need help and says they often notice stuff about her and she feels like she gets a therapy session from it).
At about the end of the run we could see sand hill cranes flying into the sky from many areas of the park and gathering in a large group and flying off in the distance as the sun started to go down. This was about at the 4 hr mark and most of the primary effects were gone, although there was a great afterglow that lasted for the rest of the night. The combination of the psychedelic and the run left me feeling deeply relaxed in my body and open in my mind. I think this could be a powerful way to reset the mind and body if I ever get into a funk.
This one seems like a big winner to me. It felt very clean, very little side effects. No nausea, no thickening of the saliva, there was relaxed energy without anxiety or tightness. Even the strange electric tingling of what I imagine to be the olfactory nerve was absent (this has been present for every other psychedelic experience as far as I remember). If this experience was universal, I would recommend it for people nervous about psychedelics to try because of its shorter time and absence of side effects. It appears I am more sensitive than normal to this one, which is great because I tend to be a hard head. Its interesting that I am less sensitive to mushrooms than normal but apparently more sensitive to metocetin.
