The Big & Dandy 1P-LSD Thread, Volume 1

[al-laddin]

JImmyDont, dude taking acid in the way you are describing...as an escape is akin to drinking booze to go solve complex math equations or something to that effect. Its NOT an escape drug....in fact it does the opposite...causes you to dive in head first. Euphoria is almost a peripheral effect to these drugs and is mostly experienced through the wonder and profundity of you mental/visual stimulus. I can understand taking MD to cheer up or even escape to a degree....but drowing your sorrows in LSD is actually psychologically dangerous.... Try this...the next time you wake up in a great mood, you have nothing bothering you and nothing to do in the next 24 hour, are feeling adventurous and want to experience some mystery and excitement THATS the time to trip....and you will experience the euphoria youre after....its a deeper euphoria than the artificial one most drugs provide ...im not saying I dont like a bit of the artificial euphoria ....Im just saying the psychedelic euphoria is much deeper and can leave you elated for days weeks even months to come if ued responsibly


PS I would try 100ug at least for an adventure...the character of the trip can change immensely from dosage

 

[JimmyDon't]

I like you Al-laddin. And I agree. However I did not take it to escape, I took it to stimulate me. I am writing an essay you see. I did not want an adventure, just something to get the creative juices flowing. It's going ok-ish.

 

[stanleyK]

The come up is often a bit confused while the peak is clearer (sometimes extremely clear).
Let your mind guide you, he knows far more than your conciseness (sorry for the yodashit )

 

[al-laddin]

My bad JimmyDont...I somehow got the impression that you were looking to feel euphoric and forget your problems...umm wellll plain LSD has always stimulated me ....this 1p is a bit less stimulating...if its a prodrug then probably bc its slowly being converted thus not as stimulating....if not it simply is not as stimulating as plain LSD...I have had success with 25ug reg LSD (I know it was 25-30ug) for stimulation....however alone (in solitude) it made me over anylize and ruminate on negative things...i could never count on it being just a stimulant...but when it worked as a creatuve stimulant it REALLY worked....I think higher actual psychedelic doses in which you just "let go" tend to be great creative tools ...especially in the mid to later portion of the experience....but again its a crap shoot amd really requires that its not my goal...to sit down and "get to business" many others have had success directing the creative juices to a particular task hoever...I posted a link above in an older post that was a study on actual scientists with this very aim.

 

[Xorkoth]

I'd recommend taking lysergamides like this when you have no responsibilities... I dislike psychedelics when I have to do something. I remember one time in the recent past I was going to see a show at night and I took DOC at 1pm, while I was still working (I work at home)... I had 4.5 more hours to go. DOC is one of my favorite substances so I thought I'd be fine. Generally I experience no anxiety on it and always have a great trip. But since I was forced to finish my work day on it, I experienced a very large amount of anxiety and dysphoria, confusion, and lack of focus. However, if I take DOC when I go for an outdoor adventure, or hang out with friends, none of that manifests, instead it's a beautiful, focused, euphoric experience.

750 ug. But I'd have some opioids or at least some weed for when it winds down, because you're gonna feel like shit.

Wow, I've never felt like shit after lysergamides... AL-LAD leaves me feeling pretty amazing, not as amazing as LSD leaves me feeling but still a great thing. Although I've never taken 750ug of any lysergamide. I have a hard time imagining it leaving me feeling bad though. Generally when I trip, the harder I trip, the better the afterglow stage is.

 

[Green Monsters]

Na man sorry I don't know...I don't take Zoloft or Lamictal. All I know is if you are taking an Irriversible MAOI like I am then it won't work. There's been talk of others on MAOI's and it not doing anything so Once i'm off this drug then I will give this stuff another try.

Ah thanx man.
I am suprised nobody has anything to say.
I hope somebody can share there thoughts on the matter.

 

[Doldrugs]

I often hear people citing euphoria as a major element of psychedelics for them but that's not what I've ever experienced. I rarely feel euphoria at all. I feel pretty much every emotion at different times during most trips. If I'm in a bad mood or not feeling great, taking a psych is off the table. If I'm looking for a mood boost, smoking weed, taking opioids, taking stims (although in this case, the comedown has to be taken into account) fit the bill. But psychedelics? I only take those if I'm in a positive frame of mind. I do psychs because it's interesting and exciting, not because it feels good.

Wow, I've never felt like shit after lysergamides... AL-LAD leaves me feeling pretty amazing, not as amazing as LSD leaves me feeling but still a great thing. Although I've never taken 750ug of any lysergamide. I have a hard time imagining it leaving me feeling bad though. Generally when I trip, the harder I trip, the better the afterglow stage is.

I don't generally get a psychedelic afterglow. Different people experience these drugs differently, but for me and my girlfriend AL-LAD and most other psychs have a quite unpleasant comedown: aches, stiffness, a general sense of unease and immense difficulty getting comfortable physically. The higher the dose, the worse it is. It's actually almost identical to my experience with tapering off an SSRI.

Have you already tried a comparable dose of 1P?

I have no current interest in getting anywhere close to that. 200 ug was challenging for me. More challenging than 3x that much AL-LAD. It's tough to compare because for me AL-LAD is big on the visuals and light on the mindfuck. At 200 ug I was edging in on 600 ug of AL-LAD mentally, but with an anxious edge I don't get from AL-LAD. I may take xanax with a higher dose to compensate next time to see if it's more pleasant. But I believe I'm particularly sensitive to 1P because of my metabolism.

 

[onetwocatpoo]

Trying out 150ug of 1p tonight! I purchased 200ug but dont want to try that much first time round but am on SSRIs so feel that 100 may be too little, what doses have other people on SSRIs used? Also, hows the vasoconstriction with this? Ill report back most likely tomorrow on my 'experiment'.

 

[Doldrugs]

Trying out 150ug of 1p tonight! I purchased 200ug but dont want to try that much first time round but am on SSRIs so feel that 100 may be too little, what doses have other people on SSRIs used? Also, hows the vasoconstriction with this? Ill report back most likely tomorrow on my 'experiment'.

I've never noticed a consistent effect from my lexapro on psychedelics, but I've definitely seen Prozac reduce psychedelic effects in person. What are you on?

I took 1P on lexapro and it was POWERFUL. I think metabolism plays a much larger role than any other factor with 1P.

I had shoulder/neck tension. It was minor. The body load, including any vasoconstriction, is light. At least at 200ug, for me.

 

[Vurtual]

...Wow, I've never felt like shit after lysergamides... AL-LAD leaves me feeling pretty amazing, not as amazing as LSD leaves me feeling but still a great thing. Although I've never taken 750ug of any lysergamide. I have a hard time imagining it leaving me feeling bad though. Generally when I trip, the harder I trip, the better the afterglow stage is.

Me too. I'll feel a bit physically drained the next day if i don't sleep, but usually feel psychologically boosted for up to a week or longer (if the trip was good that is). 300 to 450ug allad is plenty for me personally to get a strong trip, and i've always felt great after it, though the afterglow was much more noticeable with 1plsd (and good lsd) - almost like hypomania really.

 

[Doldrugs]

That's really weird. The only time I got what I'd call an afterglow was when I went to a casino on 450 ug of AL-LAD. Two of us took AL, two took edibles, and two more smoked weed. The edibles were way too strong (entirely my fault, I tend to overshoot for others because I personally like high doses) so those two rapidly fell into a horrible bad trip and we ended up sitting on a bench trying to get them to stand up so we could get to the car. Their energy pushed me into paranoia, and casinos are entirely too stimulating to relax on 3 tabs of AL, so I started to freak out. I popped a xanax and when it kicked in my trip was back to being fun. The other tripper had no issues whatsoever, but she's a serious badass so that's not surprising. We got home, did some kratom, did some nitrous, and went to sleep.

So anyway, the next day I felt like superman all day. I deal with fairly serious depression and anxiety, but that day it was gone. I was psyched all day about everything. Nothing affected my mood. I drove like 3 hours through a horrible blizzard that shut down half the roads in the area and normally I would have been literally incapable of that. I would have been rocking back and forth in the fetal position hyperventilating. But it was like nothing that day.

Because so many drugs were involved it's hard to say exactly what caused it, or if it was synergistic. I usually get a mood and energy boost the day after kratom, but this was beyond that in a spectacular way. I liked it more than the actual trip, it was the best feeling. Every other trip I've had gave me no effects the next day.

 

[AmoebicMagician]

well, I'm totally back now, and THAT WAS A DOOZY!

My entire concept of reality was challenged, it was quite scary at times.

Overall the character of the experience was hofpeful renewal, however

I am stuck, however, by how little visuals there were for the amount of head trip there was. Seems like while acid is equal piles visuals and head trip, and AL-lAD is bigger pile visuals, smaller pile head trip, 1P is exactly the opposite, you can get to intense visual territory but it requires a dose that is going to take you into CRAZY head trip territory.

i was stricken with how NORMAL everything looked, just the way I was noticing it had changed, the same colors and world of every day life were still there, i was just noticing things without sunglasses on, super crisp and ultra sharp.

After regrouping from non-grounded thoughts of adopted roles in the the universe in the bath I set out for an adventure to take in new experience by frequenting a circuit of several local parks in my area. I have never felt as alive and vigorous. just filled with such exquisite joy at being alive! Taking in the ponds and lakes and playgrounds, and a group of igneous boulders strewn in a feild with brand new eyes... there are no words. I could see in the bands of the rocks the incredible amount of experience distilled into them. While they were formed civilizations were born and fell, and the lichen growing on them, which was a colony which had been there since time immemorial and had discolored most of the boulders, took on new significance as a witness to specific times in the fourth dimension that will never be repeated- and this idea was so beautiful and profound I literally felt about to burst with the beauty of the exquisite truths I was comprehending.

You know what, I am trying too hard to put this into words.

It was challenging for a very short interval, but ultimately INCREDIBLY rewarding

 

[JimmyDon't]

My bad JimmyDont...I somehow got the impression that you were looking to feel euphoric and forget your problems...umm wellll plain LSD has always stimulated me ....this 1p is a bit less stimulating...if its a prodrug then probably bc its slowly being converted thus not as stimulating....if not it simply is not as stimulating as plain LSD...I have had success with 25ug reg LSD (I know it was 25-30ug) for stimulation....however alone (in solitude) it made me over anylize and ruminate on negative things...i could never count on it being just a stimulant...but when it worked as a creatuve stimulant it REALLY worked....I think higher actual psychedelic doses in which you just "let go" tend to be great creative tools ...especially in the mid to later portion of the experience....but again its a crap shoot amd really requires that its not my goal...to sit down and "get to business" many others have had success directing the creative juices to a particular task hoever...I posted a link above in an older post that was a study on actual scientists with this very aim.

That's a thought about the conversion reducing stimulation Al-laddin. Personally I find this stuff perfectly stimulating. And I know exactly what you mean. When I hit 1P hard (I Say 'hard', there's people doing 750ug here) after the initial come-up creativity frickin soars dude. But never anywhere I can put it to use. Anyway, I finished that essay, and just found out the deadline has been pushed back... Ha! Go drugs Go!

 

[AmoebicMagician]

HAHAHAHAHA!

I have stumbled onto something amazing!

I dropped 300 mics of AL-LAD at about 5:00 pm to see if there was cross tolerenace issues since some people were making noise about there not being any.

Well, there is indeed some cross tolerance, but I believe that AL-LAD definitely has affinity at receptors where 1p-LSD is completely impotent, since much of the crazy is gone from this experience and all I am left with is PURE EUPHORIA AND HAPPINESS. I am just psyched to be alive! There is some visual distortion and some light patterning, but things are just AWESOME! I FEEL INCREDIBLE! All the goodness of the best afterglow only my face is pressed RIGHT UP AGAINST IT! This is not quite like MDMA, I just feel like everything is so much easier! I have strength to do the things that need doing, life seems so easy!

Again, I reiterate, I love you all!

Oh! And other good news:
My friend who has PTSD that I have known since we were little, we talked every couple days since we were small until he went into the marine corps...

Well, after sruviving THREE IED explosions while his squad mates did not, in one situation him being literally the only surviver in his vehicle, he has had some really bad psychological problems.

He approached me about psychedelic therapy, which I was not enthusiastic about for obvious reasons, but after he approached me and told me he has been experimenting on his own with 4-aco-dmt and LSZ with success I told him to at least let me be there with him to help him through tough times. I suggested AL-LAD since the weirdness was a bit toned down, and after some pretty involved experiences it seems he has been able to cognize and digest much of what has happened to him.

He is no longer having the nightmares, and when he starts to feel guilty or miss his brothers that are gone, he is in his words able to 'really honestly know and believe they are alright, wherever they are, and that makes the world something completely different than it was before. He is literally an entirely new person, the same boy I knew growing up, with hope for the future and love in his heart.

WHY WOULD THE GOVERNMENT KEEP THESE CHEMICALS FROM BEING USED?!?!?!?!!?

 

[poonja]

Extremely inspiring story. You are a true friend.

 

[Doldrugs]

I am stuck, however, by how little visuals there were for the amount of head trip there was. Seems like while acid is equal piles visuals and head trip, and AL-lAD is bigger pile visuals, smaller pile head trip, 1P is exactly the opposite, you can get to intense visual territory but it requires a dose that is going to take you into CRAZY head trip territory.

Agreed. I like how they're complimentary in that way. It gives you some options depending on what you want out of your trip. When I tried acid I didn't get much visuals, though. It was closer to 1P.

WHY WOULD THE GOVERNMENT KEEP THESE CHEMICALS FROM BEING USED?!?!?!?!!?

Politics and ignorance. It makes me sick that alcohol is legal, benzos and antipsychotics are handed out like candy, but safe, non-habit-forming miracle drugs are punishable by lengthy jail time. While they have their negatives, marijuana, ketamine, and MDMA have valuable and unique medical uses, and are no more problematic than commonly prescribed drugs like clonazepam and dextroamphetamine. Psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin, on the other hand, have no negatives at all and plenty of good science shows how dramatically they can improve lives where nothing else would work. Denying them to people in need is pure evil.

 

[AmoebicMagician]

I just sat down with my girlfriend and openly and honestly talked about everything I was bothered with between us, while she did the same with me, in an atmosphere of assured love and understanding, and things have never been better.

I have been seeing places in my life where the energy flow is getting tangled and have endeavored to fix them and set things straight, and everything is in harmony! I wish to god psychedelics could be part of conventional psychotherapy. I just feel like all the problems have solutions and I have the strength and the reservoir of love within me to make it all happen, to work everything out.

Thank you God, for giving us these tools to help us live better lives. I am SOOO SORRY if I have misused them in the past.

love and light folks! I totally understand how the mood of the sixties was what it was.

 

[maxade]

Any word on the degradation of this compound?

I've tried it both times from two different reliable Vendors and experienced nothing because i'm on Phenelzine.

 

[JimmyDon't]

Any word on the degradation of this compound?

I've tried it both times from two different reliable Vendors and experienced nothing because i'm on Phenelzine.

Dark, cool place, sealed up tight? Over a year most likely. A couple of years maybe.

 

[al-laddin]

^^^Ive had LSD last 10 years with no noticable degradation. Cool , Dark, dry and airtight.

EDIT: As air tight as a sealed in a plastic bag and foil can be anyway. They were 1996 white felix the cat in san francisco area. Stored until summer of 2004 or 2005 ....so not quite 10 years but still....people REALLY underestimate acid's stability