Hamish Harrumph
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Because of that my vote has to go to mushrooms. They can give you a full bodied psychedelic experience plus the trip is over fully in 5-6 hours compared to 10-12.
+1 on that.
Because of that my vote has to go to mushrooms. They can give you a full bodied psychedelic experience plus the trip is over fully in 5-6 hours compared to 10-12.
Among other things, it told me of a paradigm shift/technological singularity that would happen in 2012. It ended up transpiring in line with the vision..
and then once you get your MXE 'sea legs', try MXE with a small dose of a 4-subbed tryptamines or mushrooms, working your way up with each trip.
Thanks for that and on second thought I agree. Both classes of drugs should be used separately before they are used together. I also should have clarified what a small dose would be to combine with MXE, like equivelant of < 1 gram of dried mushrooms.I don't think it's a good idea to try your first psychedelic in combination with a dissociative. Combinations between dissociatives and classical psychedelics can be profoundly synergistic and at times overwhelming.
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If reccomend 2-CF or 2-CC. Maybe 2-CEF.
yep, i tend to agree.I think its not so much about the substance, but the dose and the right mindset.
The biggest problem for starters are their expectations. Even after reading and hearing reports nobody can have a clue, how psychedelics really feel and what will happen. Some people just expect mind blowing visuals and stuff. They think its like becoming alice in the wonderland, but don't think about how much hard work for the mind psychedelics can be. Others think the doors of perception will be opened, they will be flooded with wisdom and their live will eventually change for the positive.
After dropping the tab/mushrooms their is no real quick way to go back. Chances are there, that the feeling is not perceived as pleasant and that its overwhelming.
I think the handling of drugs in general has to be learned. Like nobody would suggest starting to drink by downing a hole bottle of liquor, the starting dose for psychedelics should be - in my eyes - at threshold level. The goal shouldn't be a "full blown trip", but more kind of a psychological allergy test. Is the feeling appealing to ones mind, then the dose can be easily increased the next time. But its not that easy to do it the other way around.
2CF is inactive.
And I don't think anybody has 2CEF currently available, so it's kind of pointless to suggest as a starter psychedelic, and I really don't think it sounds good for that anyway.
2CC is a good suggestion, though, as well as 2CD. Among the tryptamines, metocin or moxy are probably good for a start, but they were already mentioned. AL-LAD would also be a really great starter psychedelic, imo.