sm0kestack
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I have taken tramadol in high doses 300mg+/day for a few days in a row, while being enrolled in sub maintenance, because I was informed that you could use tramadol and sub in combination and get a high out of it because of its other capabilities. I found it to be somewhat true, I did get a high from it, but because of its serotonergic properties, it made me feel more nauseous than anything
I really didn't think that taking my usual sub dose after the tramadol binge was over would result in any PWD issues. I think I remember having took a few tramadol early that morning, around 7am, maybe 200-50mg maybe. Later that day I decided to do 2mg of bupe, around 6pm, IV being the ROA too. I did notice some slight PWD, it wasn't terrible, and overwhelming like if I had shot 2mg bupe the same day I used a full agonist like heroin or oxy I was dependent on. Been made that mistake a few times... God that shit sux!! But all I noticed out of it was a slight hot sweat, and slight burning sensation in my skin on a few parts of my body. It wasn't a good feeling, but by no means unbearable for real. It only lasted a few mins, and I felt the bupe settle itself in like normal.
I had only binged on the tramadol for a few days though. I probably was not dependent yet though, maybe only slightly. Perhaps that is why the BUPE precipitated only very minor WDs in that case? I have heard long term tramadol use in high doses can produce nasty WDs, so in turn, if someone inducted bupe too early with tramadol still occupying opiate receptors, while highly dependent on it, they would be in for nasty precipitated tramadol withdrawal correct? Since I may have acquired slight dependence on tramadol those few days, the PWD from the early bupe induction was slight/minor. If I had long term dependence at that dose, and inducted bupe that early, the PWD would have been a lot heavier and extreme. Does this sound logical?
I have no clue about tianeptine, so I cannot speak on that.
I really didn't think that taking my usual sub dose after the tramadol binge was over would result in any PWD issues. I think I remember having took a few tramadol early that morning, around 7am, maybe 200-50mg maybe. Later that day I decided to do 2mg of bupe, around 6pm, IV being the ROA too. I did notice some slight PWD, it wasn't terrible, and overwhelming like if I had shot 2mg bupe the same day I used a full agonist like heroin or oxy I was dependent on. Been made that mistake a few times... God that shit sux!! But all I noticed out of it was a slight hot sweat, and slight burning sensation in my skin on a few parts of my body. It wasn't a good feeling, but by no means unbearable for real. It only lasted a few mins, and I felt the bupe settle itself in like normal.
I had only binged on the tramadol for a few days though. I probably was not dependent yet though, maybe only slightly. Perhaps that is why the BUPE precipitated only very minor WDs in that case? I have heard long term tramadol use in high doses can produce nasty WDs, so in turn, if someone inducted bupe too early with tramadol still occupying opiate receptors, while highly dependent on it, they would be in for nasty precipitated tramadol withdrawal correct? Since I may have acquired slight dependence on tramadol those few days, the PWD from the early bupe induction was slight/minor. If I had long term dependence at that dose, and inducted bupe that early, the PWD would have been a lot heavier and extreme. Does this sound logical?
I have no clue about tianeptine, so I cannot speak on that.