Discussion Should Harm Reduction supplies be funded by tax dollars?

[kiely]

Nah. I can't get to the comments for some reason. But the menu looks ' real ' good.

Or should I just say ' I get it. '

 

[someguyontheinternet]

they became illegal and controlled because of how dangerous they are to the population

...do you seriously not know the history of the drug laws? It was racism dude, people were scared of Chinese men luring white women into opium dens and getting them pregnant

Pain and prejudice

The University of Cincinnati's Daniel Arendt, PharmD, examines discriminatory policies throughout the history of U.S. drug policy and how they have led to the stigmatization of patients suffering from painful conditions as "drug seekers."

www.uc.edu

Racism's Hidden History in the War on Drugs

In 1909 Congress made opium smoking a federal offense by enacting the Anti-Opium Act. It reinforced Chinese racism by carving out an exception for drinking and injecting tinctures of opiates that were popular among whites.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

...do you seriously not know the history of the drug laws? It was racism dude, people were scared of Chinese men luring white women into opium dens and getting them pregnant

Pain and prejudice

The University of Cincinnati's Daniel Arendt, PharmD, examines discriminatory policies throughout the history of U.S. drug policy and how they have led to the stigmatization of patients suffering from painful conditions as "drug seekers."

www.uc.edu

Racism's Hidden History in the War on Drugs

In 1909 Congress made opium smoking a federal offense by enacting the Anti-Opium Act. It reinforced Chinese racism by carving out an exception for drinking and injecting tinctures of opiates that were popular among whites.

www.huffpost.com

That's some very nice propaganda there, but very few people went to the opium dens. The real reason that it was banned is because of "patent medicines" and how many people were being killed thinking it was going to help them.

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

...do you seriously not know the history of the drug laws? It was racism dude, people were scared of Chinese men luring white women into opium dens and getting them pregnant

Pain and prejudice

The University of Cincinnati's Daniel Arendt, PharmD, examines discriminatory policies throughout the history of U.S. drug policy and how they have led to the stigmatization of patients suffering from painful conditions as "drug seekers."

www.uc.edu

Racism's Hidden History in the War on Drugs

In 1909 Congress made opium smoking a federal offense by enacting the Anti-Opium Act. It reinforced Chinese racism by carving out an exception for drinking and injecting tinctures of opiates that were popular among whites.

www.huffpost.com

This.

Opium scare : Chinamen will lure our pure white women into their dissolute opium dens.
Cocaine scare : the negroes take cocaine which makes them sexually rampant and want to rape our pure white women.
Marihuana scare : the Mexicans imbibe this substance that makes both sexes equally promiscuous, leading to systemic degradation of our pure white women.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

I never said the issue was real but that racism was a large driving factor, so yes it was racist propaganda that helped drive making drugs illegal and also patent medicines. There can be multiple causes

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

That's some very nice propaganda there, but very few people went to the opium dens. The real reason that it was banned is because of "patent medicines" and how many people were being killed thinking it was going to help them.

'very few'? TONS of people frequented opium dens.

Also pure opiates have no detrimental impact / effect on the human body.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

...do you seriously not know the history of the drug laws? It was racism dude, people were scared of Chinese men luring white women into opium dens and getting them pregnant

Pain and prejudice

The University of Cincinnati's Daniel Arendt, PharmD, examines discriminatory policies throughout the history of U.S. drug policy and how they have led to the stigmatization of patients suffering from painful conditions as "drug seekers."

www.uc.edu

Racism's Hidden History in the War on Drugs

In 1909 Congress made opium smoking a federal offense by enacting the Anti-Opium Act. It reinforced Chinese racism by carving out an exception for drinking and injecting tinctures of opiates that were popular among whites.

www.huffpost.com

yea yea yea ive seen that show too

blame everything on the white man like you did earlier in the thread


but never blame yourselves for creating your own habit

never

no accountability - everything is everybody else's fault



typical addict behavior

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

very sad to read that

I reported it. I don't want this to become kill poor-think tank.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

'very few'? TONS of people frequented opium dens.

Also pure opiates have no detrimental impact / effect on the human body.

If you bother doing research beyond political news sources you will find that the patent medicine industry was selling strong solutions of opium and morphine to mothers of new born infants as a "calming" elixir and many, many infants died this way. This is just one medicine sold, mind you. There were thousand of them and they were readily available. One may argue if the law worked as intended, but the reason was one of true public safety, not "temperance" or racism.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

'very few'? TONS of people frequented opium dens.

Also pure opiates have no detrimental impact / effect on the human body.

oh really?

so then tell me why you wanted kill yourself again


just so you know, your brain is part of your body - ok?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

I reported it. I don't want this to become kill poor-think tank.

hey listen, you guys can report me all you want

im telling you the way it is and how i feel - if that's too much for you, maybe you need to leave and not read what i have to say


im not really going to do something like that, but that's how i feel

do you not understand that?

probably not

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

If you bother doing research beyond political news sources you will find that the patent medicine industry was selling strong solutions of opium and morphine to mothers of new born infants as a "calming" elixir and many, many infants died this way. This is just one medicine sold, mind you. There were thousand of them and they were readily available. One may argue if the law worked, but the reason was one of true public safety, not "temperance" or racism.

I am in fact fully aware of this and it's not a novel thing. Many lay persons misuse medicines; that does not mean that the medicine is bad.

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

oh really?

so then tell me why you wanted kill yourself again


just so you know, your brain is part of your body - ok?

YES of course my brain is a part of my body as it is a physical organ.

I wanted to kill myself due to impaired cognition caused by a malfunction which my ALL BAD drug abuse actually helped to correct.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

yea yea yea ive seen that show too

blame everything on the white man like you did earlier in the thread


but never blame yourselves for creating your own habit

never

no accountability - everything is everybody else's fault



typical addict behavior

Are you implying that white people don't get addicted or that all addicts are not white? What an interesting viewpoint

 

[someguyontheinternet]

YES of course my brain is a part of my body as it is a physical organ.

I wanted to kill myself due to impaired cognition caused by a malfunction which my ALL BAD drug abuse actually helped to correct.

Its wild that people don't seem to understand that mental illness can be caused by malfunctioning opioid systems, its part of the stigma that impacts how society views mental health and drug use, shown pretty clearly by some members participating in this thread

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

im telling you the way it is and how i feel - if that's too much for you, maybe you need to leave and not read what i have to say

have you thought that while you express that you want kill people who are innocent by default, and people do not want that content on their forum of choice, it is okay that their will would be served, and there is something deeply wrong with you?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Are you implying that white people don't get addicted or that all addicts are not white? What an interesting viewpoint

no not even close....but you wanna turn this whole thing into a race debate, so you can call me a racist


ive seen your far-lefty playbook - i know that play bro

so take it somewhere else

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

YES of course my brain is a part of my body as it is a physical organ.

I wanted to kill myself due to impaired cognition caused by a malfunction which my ALL BAD drug abuse actually helped to correct.

oh ok - so your opiate addiction fixed your mental problems


keep telling yourself that

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Ah yes, the great understander of psychiatry is back, please tell me where you got your PhD in brain science because you seem to know so much

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

all i need to do is be smart enough to not develop myself an opiate or meth habit, and that alone, makes me smarter than you

(true story)