Sen. Schumer wants drug website shutdown

[23536]

As we fight against drug 'pill mills,' we must put an immediate stop to an anonymous online black market that could put even more illicit prescription drugs into our communities and hurt our ability to create and save jobs.

motherfucker you think giving people criminal records helps create and save jobs?

 

[Ph0r.W3-R-m4ny]

welcome to the new world order

this is just going to unleash a massive wave of copy cats that will never ever roll back

 

[ro4eva]

I can't wait to see this type of commerce expand into a fundamental tool against the war on drugs (although the mainstream media will undoubtedly spew out their biased views as always), because it appears a lot of pro WoD politicians - several decades after prohibition failed miserably - still don't seem to understand that supply and demand will always prevail one way or another.

 

[edgarshade]

the address is hidden and even if you find the address you can't access it using a normal browser....thats is all i am willing to say on here.

Sounds like a perfectly useless website 8)

 

[Thou]

Thank you Mr. Schumer.

Never thought I'd get a source from a governor!



I'm hoping it only takes ten years to accept defeat, and tax and regulate these medicines for the good of the community.

The die is cast. The fat is in the fire. Selah.

 

[23536]

what are the odds that they'll do to Bitcoin what they did to the Liberty Dollar?

that's who I see getting into this: the Secret Service. They handle currency prosecution. From what I've read in the past couple of days, all bitcoin transactions can be unraveled by statistical analysis.

My favorite was a add on there about "China white heroin" and how it "was the best on the west coast, way better then east coast wax bags", but it wouldn't be ready til June 8th.

Jesus fuckin christ.

lol

 

[You4EuH]

Really interesting

 

[dimensiontripping]

the scary part is the weapons tab. if the media starts to cover this, that will definitely be the big kahuna. "dangerous website sells sheets of lsd AND cell phone shaped guns". wow

 

[trip.more]

what are the odds that they'll do to Bitcoin what they did to the Liberty Dollar?

that's who I see getting into this: the Secret Service. They handle currency prosecution. From what I've read in the past couple of days, all bitcoin transactions can be unraveled by statistical analysis.l

Since it's based on a p2p network it would be impossible to put regulations on. And again it exists internationally so if it's legal in even one country everyone will have access. Transactions can be traced but their are sites made to launder bitcoins such as the bitcoin washing machine. Most are free to use too or charge like .1%. So in that sense it's not traceable. Keep in mind people could also use tor to receive bitcoins so traffic anonymity is already covered in this way.

 

[ResinTeeth]

Everything on there is CRAZY fuckin priced.

This. I first found out about Silk Road from the previous article someone posted about it. After learning wtf a bitcoin was I checked the daily prices. Not bad the first day, but within 48 hours of the article having been posted the prices on bitcoins were soaring. It is definitely not worth the ridiculous fluctuating prices they charge for these shits. You might catch it one day and they cost $15 for one Bitcoin. Next day the shit is $9, which means you just lost money or have to wait for the Bitcoin value to rise again before you get your money's worth.

As far as gettin to it I'm about as non-computer savy as it gets so it aint hard, just might have to get someone to show you.

Agreed, it really isn't that difficult. Within the same google search for the original article I found all the info I needed to log on. Browsing speed was horrible as well. Idk I all in all I thought the site mildly amusing. It has potential, but its creator(s) are fuckups for advertising it all over the web and employing this unstable bitcoin system.

 

[justsayknow]

I am going to keep an eye on this for sure. I'm waiting for news of arrests related to postage really. It will be interesting to see how it gets on though.

 

[Thou]

Looks like the site has gone private.

I accessed it the other day. Should have made username.

Oh well.

 

[justsayknow]

There was some mention of it being reopened in July. I also read somewhere that there were sellers offering things like uranium and human slaves on there? wtf Crazy times...

 

[The Network]

There was some mention of it being reopened in July. I also read somewhere that there were sellers offering things like uranium and human slaves on there? wtf Crazy times...

No, I've followed it for a long time, I never saw any crazy shit like that on there. The most extreme was probably just some heroin.

 

[ColdNorth]

You get that message about opening in July if you don't use Tor browser.

It seems indeed they are closed to new members now, there's a captcha to fill and no 'register' button anymore. I made an account just the day before that, I bet they are getting attacked a lot.

It seemed alright unless all the user feedback was forged, obviously there is still a weak link in the delivery even if it's otherwise safe. But I would certainly try it if the bitcoin value wasn't in such a chaotic state right now. All I can do for now is mine them and hope the price doesn't go up forever. At the current average pace of my old GPU I get a free bitcoin about every 2 weeks

 

[Renz Envy]

I love it! Now the only risk really is getting scammed.

 

[Thou]

Senator Schumer's a fucking vapid, malevolent piece of shit tool who could give two shits whether we live or die. Or for our collective health, for that matter.

He doesn't care about safety, harm reduction, or anything similar.


He does however care about publicity, furthering his own self-interest in maintaining status as a 'public servant' (is that a grotesque enough exaggeration as a title for you?), doing everything in his power to remain myopic and avoiding the real problems at hand, and ignoring us as group of people.

He'll die some day, but I fear it's not enough.

 

[MyDoorsAreOpen]

I see this closely mirroring the whole music piracy phenomenon ten years ago. It starts as one common place that anyone can use freely. (Think Napster.) Then it's discovered and condemned by the media and the law, and gets inundated by many more people due to the advertising, both people for and people against its purpose. Soon it shuts down, but then more open up. At this point it becomes a game of being hip enough to know which drug-trading sites are new enough to be under the radar, but old enough to have a group of sellers with established reputations. (Think Audio Galaxy.) That's the tricky part. The way I see this playing out in the end is we'll end up with an internet full of gated communities for buying and selling drugs, each one with its own tortuous set of hoops that need to be jumped through in order to gain membership, and most people not qualified for membership in most. (Think Demonoid.)

As for the bitcoin, I see this technology being able to dodge currency laws by changing its wording and coding a bit, to expolit loopholes that make the currency appear to be something along the lines of a casino chip, MMORPG gold, or some other kind of game token. At the very least an insincere disclaimer of 'no cash value', with the inability to convert bitcoins back into any real currency, is in order. Regardless, I could forsee a black market of currency speculators/investors springing up, who don't use bitcoins to buy anything but real currency, and are able to make a mint, say, buying bitcoins with yen, selling them on craigslist a week later in dollars, converting the dollars back to yen, and reaping a profit. I'm no economist, but the complete lack of regulation of a currency can cut both ways. Namely, its value could fluctuate wildly and unpredictably in short periods of time, without any sort of buffer. I sure wouldn't buy any large quantity of bitcoins.

If legislation is drafted in the wake of all this, I see it taking the form of having a computer in your possession with any traceable evidence of having visited Silk Road or its ilk, being an punishable offense. They might even make it illegal to have a computer with any bitcoins on it. This will probably be written in legal language that's purposely meant to be broadly interpreted, just like the Analogue Act, to cover any and all future online drug markets. You order drugs from someone who turns out to be a DEA undercover, with positive reviews from shills who are also DEA. They have your address. Now all they need to do is show up at your door and seize your computer. They don't even need to find or look for drugs.

 

[jspun]

I was wondering when something like this would materialize. As a caveate remember RCs and the DEAs operation Web Trypt or whatever they called it in 2004. But this was pre torr.

Iran and a few other countries are one thing, but Torr, and other tools to surf the web anonymously are a good thing but I'm a wearry about the NSAs cyber capabilities.

Now as for biticoins- it might be a vehicle for bluelighters to donate anonymously making it more attractive to some. Might bring us close to the 1050 euros or whatever the quaterly operational budget runs.

Wonder how many biticoins this translates into?

 

[Thou]

It's closed for new membership.

You missed ship.


This is getting dangerously close to source discussion methinks.