《Plasticity》
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^ Would you say the same if somebody was on several hundred mgs of oxy daily? Because that's just about what we're dealing with here, no kratom whatsoever here... we're dealing with entirely novel substances at least on par with ox/hydro, with no ceiling to how high you can get. Forget that UEI is marketed as a kratom product because whatever the main ingredient, whether it really be this pseudo-indoxyl compound or another synthetic mitragynine analog it contains nothing found in kratom, only some sort of Corynantheidine based substance confirmed through testing.
I agree that sub is overkill most of the time and switching to plain leaf kratom is probably a better choice, but when we're dealing with a ten gram UEI habit suboxone is a very sane and reasonable choice. With a tolerance of 10 grams of UEI, he won't even be feeling suboxone recreationaly... and will more than likely have to taper a bunch before even making a comfortable jump. I'd be surprised if he even feels a dose of 100mgs of oxycodone.
With that said even FST is still not "pretty much heroin" though. I'd say UEI and FST are about on the level of oral hydro or oxy, and that plain leaf is on par with codeine addiction wise. 2 grams of UEI will get me to the level of ~60mgs of hydro, give or take.
I agree that sub is overkill most of the time and switching to plain leaf kratom is probably a better choice, but when we're dealing with a ten gram UEI habit suboxone is a very sane and reasonable choice. With a tolerance of 10 grams of UEI, he won't even be feeling suboxone recreationaly... and will more than likely have to taper a bunch before even making a comfortable jump. I'd be surprised if he even feels a dose of 100mgs of oxycodone.
I don't feel like reading that huge paragraph but I do apologize, I misread that post. All but those two sentences were in response to nobody in paricular though so don't think that my whole post was out to discredit you or anything. I happened to skim the thread lightly a day or two before posting and was perhaps a bit off, which I can easily see how that would happen.You are grossly miss quoting me at best.
With that said even FST is still not "pretty much heroin" though. I'd say UEI and FST are about on the level of oral hydro or oxy, and that plain leaf is on par with codeine addiction wise. 2 grams of UEI will get me to the level of ~60mgs of hydro, give or take.
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