Mental Health Punishment or treatment?

[IndustrialStrength]

^ I would disagree. Doctors fucked my life all up, I've always had major health issues, but they threw major addiction issues on top.
And even though I've spent my whole life trying to get to the root causes they've never had any luck finding them.
When I finally get fed up & get into hospital for month & half thinking I can see specialists get to root of problems.
They instead basically torture me & fuck my medications all up.

Then to top it off my doctor then proceeds to remove what medications the hospital didn't take away.
He also puts me on a taper plan to stop those medications.
Which in my case is a blatant case of malpractice & quite dangerous due to the medications & the effects of removing them to quickly. I wouldn't say just blindly listen to doctors, do your own research.

Hell I'm likely to have seizures &/or brain damage, I already have some from doctors mistakes.
So please for your own sake don't blindly trust doctors.
Also keep in mind that they often aren't doing a damn thing to improve your situation.
There just following the law, covering there own asses, or trying to make a buck like anyone else.

Realtalkloc no offense intended but the real talk is that the doc often doesn't know there ass from there elbow.
When it comes to medications that is, they may know general medicine or there specialty but not medications.
If you wanna know about medications talk to a pharmacist, most doctors just know what the drug reps tell them.
It's pharmacists that know about medications, trust me on that one.
I've always dealt with pharmacists regarding medications & had much better results in getting the right info.

 

[jammin83]

^ I would disagree. Doctors fucked my life all up, I've always had major health issues, but they threw major addiction issues on top.
And even though I've spent my whole life trying to get to the root causes they've never had any luck finding them.
When I finally get fed up & get into hospital for month & half thinking I can see specialists get to root of problems.
They instead basically torture me & fuck my medications all up.

Then to top it off my doctor then proceeds to remove what medications the hospital didn't take away.
He also puts me on a taper plan to stop those medications.
Which in my case is a blatant case of malpractice & quite dangerous due to the medications & the effects of removing them to quickly. I wouldn't say just blindly listen to doctors, do your own research.

Hell I'm likely to have seizures &/or brain damage, I already have some from doctors mistakes.
So please for your own sake don't blindly trust doctors.
Also keep in mind that they often aren't doing a damn thing to improve your situation.
There just following the law, covering there own asses, or trying to make a buck like anyone else.

Realtalkloc no offense intended but the real talk is that the doc often doesn't know there ass from there elbow.
When it comes to medications that is, they may know general medicine or there specialty but not medications.
If you wanna know about medications talk to a pharmacist, most doctors just know what the drug reps tell them.
It's pharmacists that know about medications, trust me on that one.
I've always dealt with pharmacists regarding medications & had much better results in getting the right info.

nice post.

 

[NOtoInvega]

I used to live with a friend who had temporary custody of his relatives child. Poor 8 year old was prescribed risperidone along with clonazepam and extended release methylphenidate. He developed a severe facial twitch, lost bladder control (-after- being put on said medication regime). To me it did seems like punishment for a little boy who was a bit more animated than others.

Putting a child on risperidone is evil. I have read the peer reviewed medical journal studies on putting kids on that stuff, and it is all very clearly rigged to the max. I read in one study that less than 5% of children put on a drug that blocks dopamine and serotonin from binding (the chemicals that make you feel good, relaxed, happy, fun, *excited*, *outgoing* *outspoken*) even developed a little anxiety. Pharma is rigging these studies.

I can not even describe how evil it is. Akathisia, chemically induced depression 24/7, severe restlessness, hopelessness.... It makes them docile. No matter what they do, they won't feel good anyways - so why not be docile.

They use it to restrain kids. For instance, kids with autism can be put on it because it is FDA approved to treat "irritability."

It really is torture. The whole world lies in the hands of the Evil One, that is certain. But you would think they would at least stick to hedonistic pleasure-seeking. You would think they would at least love their OWN children enough not to torment them. Nope, for some reason many have a desire to torment others (children included) and maintain control at all costs. It is completely Satanic to put a kid on that stuff.

But what really gets me is doctors, Big Pharma, and law makers have to be smart enough to at least know what blocking dopamine and serotonin does. They call the main effects of it "side-effects" and say "the benefits outweigh the risks."

I read one person's story of how their parents were abusive and evil, without Love, and how their parents would go to psychiatrists to get them put on anti-psychotics and pretend to be "good people" in public and in front of the psych doc.

I can not even describe how evil it is to put an autistic kid on neuroleptics for their childhood. It is literally something a Nazi would do. The drug BLOCKS DOPAMINE AND SERATONIN. Who would do that to a CHILD? Why do all the psych docs trust peer reviewed studies in medical journals over COMMON SENSE. There is MONEY involved in this. Of course the studies are rigged.

 

[SixBuckets]

This is precisely why I have never thought twice about withholding my suicidal thoughts from therapists. I have a fear of being an inpatient and forced to take terrible meds.

Where are you? In Australia, at least, suicidal thoughts aren't enough to get you involuntarily put on inpatient status. If you disclose them, the doctor should ask if you have a plan to kill yourself. It's answering yes to that question that usually prompts them to think about inpatients.

Realistically, though, the psychiatric system in most Western countries are so overloaded that you have to be pretty clearly indicated a desire to hurt yourself or others before they'll section you. Most of the public inpatient spaces are taken up by people who are court-ordered to have treatment. Suicidal thoughts alone are more likely to have doctors treating you in the community, or recommending private, voluntary inpatients if you have private health insurance.

 

[NOtoInvega]

Just listen to the doctors and you will be fine, stop over thinking the matter, you're not the doctor, let the doctors do what they gotta do to improve your situation.

Exactly. How sensible do you sound? You sound very reasonable. And as a result of people not thinking for themselves: children legally put on neuroleptics. Legal torture of children - at a large profit. It is strange when you think about some guy flying around in a private jet with money he made legally by torturing children and calling it "treatment" KNOWING FULL WELL THE STUDIES ARE RIGGED. That is definitely demonic. I see why Christ's mercy is not extended to Satan.

 

[IndustrialStrength]

nice post.

Thanks. I try my best to be useful & informative.
To many people post without knowing what they're talking about.
You helped make a really bad day, a bit better so really appreciate it.

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

Where are you? In Australia, at least, suicidal thoughts aren't enough to get you involuntarily put on inpatient status. If you disclose them, the doctor should ask if you have a plan to kill yourself. It's answering yes to that question that usually prompts them to think about inpatients.

Realistically, though, the psychiatric system in most Western countries are so overloaded that you have to be pretty clearly indicated a desire to hurt yourself or others before they'll section you. Most of the public inpatient spaces are taken up by people who are court-ordered to have treatment. Suicidal thoughts alone are more likely to have doctors treating you in the community, or recommending private, voluntary inpatients if you have private health insurance.

I'm in the U.S.
I know that they won't throw me in an inpatient facility just for saying I think about suicide. The thing is though once you say it its out there, they have on record that you are possibly suicidal. That opens a whole new door where antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, and a bunch of other debilitating meds that I don't need become an option. I vaguely hinted, once, to my psychiatrist that I had suicidal thoughts and she immediately shut down discussion of snri antidepressants that I wanted to try and sent me home with a lamictal script, which I didn't fill.

 

[SixBuckets]

FTR, I have a bit of bias here, because lamictal/lamotrigine is my wonder drug. Seriously the most effective and side-effect free medication I've ever taken.

Have you been previously diagnosed with bipolar or similar? It seems a bit strange that they'd prescribe you any of those things for unipolar depression, even with suicidal features.

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

I took a very brief survey which was only like 15 questions that I could tell were related to bipolar. It was during that same visit I just talked about and after I took it I just said I didn't feel any of those symptoms represent me. The only thing my psych said after that was that she thinks I am bipolar.

After that I brought up how I wanted to try an snri becuase I never have energy and I heard they can help with depression and fatigue but she denied that request. She thought it would put me into a manic state even though I never gave her any reason to think that I had ever become manic. after having thought about it I don't think I've ever been in a state that would qualify as a bipolar manic episode.

I went to her once more after that and then stopped going, we always seemed to talk past each other becuase she had an idea about who I was based on only a few brief therapy sessions that she wasn't directly involved in.

 

[SixBuckets]

I took a very brief survey which was only like 15 questions that I could tell were related to bipolar. It was during that same visit I just talked about and after I took it I just said I didn't feel any of those symptoms represent me. The only thing my psych said after that was that she thinks I am bipolar.

After that I brought up how I wanted to try an snri becuase I never have energy and I heard they can help with depression and fatigue but she denied that request. She thought it would put me into a manic state even though I never gave her any reason to think that I had ever become manic. after having thought about it I don't think I've ever been in a state that would qualify as a bipolar manic episode.

I went to her once more after that and then stopped going, we always seemed to talk past each other becuase she had an idea about who I was based on only a few brief therapy sessions that she wasn't directly involved in.

Was this a psychiatrist?

The diagnostic criteria for bipolar requires that the patient has experienced at least one manic or hypomanic episode - this is kinda problematic because it means that some people who have bipolar with mostly depressive features can sometimes end up on the wrong treatment, or go for a long time without the right diagnosis, but it is what it is.

Maybe you should consider seeing a different psychiatrist? It's not 'doctor shopping' if you legitimately think your psych is misdiagnosing you due to not listening to your accounts of your experiences.

FTR, I have bipolar, and I take an SNRI.

 

[IndustrialStrength]

As for the topic at hand, I think it's a good discussion. While forced drugging is just flat out wrong IMO, I have to agree with invega in a sense. After going through what I have went through with APs, I feel violated. It's kind of a feeling that you can only know if you have had it. Maybe not comparable to rape, but violated nonetheless. To be fair though, it did help me for a time.

Meds don't effect people in the same way. 10 bipolar people will all tell you a different combination of meds that work for them.

I agree completely.
After my hospital experience & the forced drugging combined with the destruction of my veins.
The forced straight catheters as opposed to using the Foley I requested.
As well as the numerous other lies & destructive things there were done to me;
I can agree with u that it is quite violating.
I now at 31 have to see a cardiologist & a thoracic doctor due to lung & heart damage.
As well as having most of my arm veins collapsed, damaged from caustic medications or worse.
I mean seriously I have permanent serious heart & lung damage from pneumonia complications?
Also the arm vein damage is just part of normal treatment?

I mean I used IV drugs for probably 3-5 years & didn't even have a track mark let alone any vein damage.
I practiced proper vein care, used microns, though sure sometimes if I had to I'd go old school.
Or I'll admit if we were ballin & there was no powder around I'd break down & use lemon/lime/vinegar.
As here in the states the exchange never carried citric acid packets so if all we had was hard
which was somewhat often as if was often higher quality than the soft;
& I usually wasn't the one purchasing I'd use the above.
That might have caused some very minor damage but nothing noticeable.

Now my arms look like hell & after finding out I was losing all my meds;
at the same time that I finally got to have my appts.;
That might find the root cause of my problems plus my disability hearing I'd waited 2 years for I lost it.
I ended up whacking a Dilaudid after years of not abusing anything or even thinking of picking up a needle.
I could never do it myself in the past, as I shake so bad I always miss.
I'd always hit then have someone register & push plunger so I could keep it steady & in the vein.
But now I just don't care after all the damage they've done, so I ended up poking myself 10 times.
Then I remembered to try a belt as at this point I no longer had a tourniquet.
I got lucky on #13 & managed to hit & somehow managed to not miss, but was underwhelmed.
Which is really bad considering how fast & how low the doses are they wrote me to taper off with.

Essentially it's not going to be possible to do, as they expect me to taper off the Remeron.
Which I requested & am happy to do, but want to do slowly enough to not have any w/d symptoms.
I sure didn't want to lose Morphine 60 ER x3 Daily, Klonopin 2mg x3 Daily, Valium 5mg x3 Daily;
Soma x3 Daily & Dilaudid 8mg x6 Daily.

They cut my Klonopin to 4mg daily & have me on a 1mg per week taper, thus 4 weeks to get off.
Ashton Manual (The Gold Standard) has it at 28-56 weeks.
With 28 having possible permanent damage 56 for no risk of damage.
Luckily I still had some extras, & there's tons of grey market benzo's.
Though I plan on using Phenazepam as I've had good luck with that in the past.
Apparently it's become kinda rare though on most regular internet vendors from what I've seen.
Luckily I found it just gotta acquire it, once I figure out this Bitcoin thing.

Speaking of which if anyone is familiar with Bitcoin;
PM me please as I don't wanna de-rail thread about it.

As for the opiates, they wrote me an 8 week taper, 15mg Morphine ER x1 or x2 daily, for 1 week;
cut by 1 per day per week.
Well first they wrote 20mg capsules which don't exist around here so I had 2 days with nothing.
Or so the doc thought, which would have meant a major health risk.
Also they are super expensive compared to tablets & he knows I have medicare & no money.
So basically tried to fuck me & my family money wise.
Ended up getting it switched to above 15's.
But had I not had stuff from before would have had nothing for 2 days.
Which is ridiculous as I'm sick as fuck constantly.

To top it off I have some form of internal bleeding.
Either urethral or prostate, or perhaps somewhere in GI as I've had dark stool;
with the coffee looking bullshit.
So quite likely prostate. He decided not to urine test or check it out & just wrote me Cipro.
Even though I'd just got out of hospital & had been on high strength antibiotics for weeks, oral & IV.
So that's kinda bullshit right there, not to mention the Cipro makes me sick as fuck.
So I'm supposed to withdraw from all those meds while sick from the Cipro;
& still go to Disability Hearing & my appts?

Remember that I've spent my whole life, well at least the last 10-15 years trying to get these appts.;
so I could have a chance at actually getting better & having a life worth living.
Now how the fuck am I supposed to do that if I'm sick as fuck & withdrawing to boot.
Also opiate withdrawals aren't normally fatal (though the benzo ones can be) but the opiate w/d's;
can also be fatal in those with heart/lung problems both of which I'm currently experiencing.
I mean hell they don't make you appts. for cardiology & thoracic for no reason.
Also my feet/ankles are swollen as all fuck & he didn't bother to pay attention to that either.
Basically everything on my life threatening list was ignored;
in favor of getting me off controlled substances ASAP.
Even if doing so puts my life at extreme risk & makes it so I can't do my appts.;
& possibly fucks my Disability Hearing.

Which he knew about & I mentioned, hell my mom tore into him about how he was trying to kill me.
But no he didn't give a fuck so now I gotta somehow get by with my old extras.
And what ever else I can get as if they drug test at hearing;
I gotta be sure I have just Morphine in system.
If they say I have to much of anything in system I can fight that.
As there's previous court rulings showing that with different metabolisms;
the amounts on a drug test are not accurate.
They can only say yes or no, not how much thankfully.

Just hoping they don't even test, as there's no reason I never abused shit.
Yet hospital put in records that I did.
No idea why as once I got into Pain Management.
I went completely straight as I have legit medical issues.
Only reason I was fucking around & the like was because that's what you have to do;
when your in the scene or else people don't trust you.
As I actually needed the shit to maintain, pain wise & health wise.

Just so pissed as I could lose my hearing due to sickness / possible red flag?
Also worried about my appts. as I can't afford to be sick & not on my A game.
To make sure I get proper treatments.
Plus I might need surgery if not multiple ones. WTF are they gonna do?
Make me w/d off meds then have surgery & w/d again?
Plus will they even give me pain meds after surgery?
As just the meds they use for the surgery will cause me to w/d again.
Even if they don't give me meds after.
So I have no intention of tapering off my opiates, I'll go back to streets or use internet if needed.
As I don't have a comp setup to fuck with the darknet ATM & not familiar.
Though I know computers wells so I'm sure I can figure it out.

But I can't have those appts. & there results get ruined by this.
Plus I'd rather not die from withdrawals & the resulting heart/lung complications;
as well as the issues from the Cipro.
Anyways I'm rambling but if anyone has any ideas on what I can do I'd really appreciate it.
PM me if need be.
As I'm ready to just end it, but I'm gonna at least wait till after the Disability Hearing.
As that's I believe the 21st.
I have a lawyer & what not & if I get that then I could get other benefits.
Then maybe I could afford to maintain pain meds.
It just sucks. Take a person who went 100% legit & turn em back to streets & the scene.
As well as force them back to the point s necessary.
As depending on B/A & cost sometimes I won't have a choice.
I hate that, I didn't want to have to deal with that shit again. I mean I was legit damn it.

I mean they did give me a pain management referral but that's not scheduled yet.
Regardless I'm supposed to be tapering in meantime & the referral is to a spinal injection specialist.
They do, do medication management but they told my mom
(figured she's old they'd be more honest) that it's rare.
That usually they just do injections.
So I gotta try to find a new Pain Management doc to get referred to if possible.
As I need medication management not spinal injections.

Also the Klonopin, if I'd actually cut 2mg's & started tapering;
I'd be having seizures & be half brain dead by now.
So I have to go to out patient counseling which does medication management.
But I still have to schedule it & have them actually write me what I need.
As opposed to anti-D's, anti-P's, etc.
All while trying to deal with withdrawals, sickness from Cipro, Heart/Lung problems.
As well as trying to prepare for & deal with Disability Hearing & my Dr. Appts.;
that I've waited so fucking long for.
What a mess. I tried so hard to do things right & they turn around & fuck me for doing the right thing.
The American medical system is a fucking joke. It's just plain evil.
I mean hell I also have to worry about the psych appt. trying to court order me to take shit & the like.
Though I could get 2nd opinion at a different psych.
However, there are only so many in my area that take Medicrap, er Medicare.

I mean how do they expect someone with major physical health issues;
& after hospital torture mental ones as well to deal with all of the above;
& still succeed with Disability Hearing & there Dr. Appts?
It's essentially impossible without me taking meds the way I feel I need to;
& avoiding withdrawals as best I can.
As I need to be able to think & as it is, it's so much stress & so much going on I can't think.
Let alone with withdrawals & being sick from Cipro, plus the Heart/Lung problems & the other issues.
Internal bleeding, feet/ankle swelling, blood tests I need done, oh & I'm not aloud to drive.
Though since I don't have a car ATM it doesn't matter. BTW Appts. are 3 hours away, 1 fucking way.
And I probably already mentioned earlier in thread that I can't urinate in public.
So that's at minimum 6-8 hours.
That hurts & isn't good for me, especially with all my other issues in those areas.

But I digress going on & on.
Just please if anyone can help my situation at all, PM me or post something.
Even if it's just encouragement it's appreciated.
Sorry to OP & others if anyone feels that I'm de-railing the thread a bit.
Also sorry if this is a bit long & hard to digest but I had to get it off my chest as best I could.

However I feel it seems to fit into the discussion that's been going on in the thread so I felt it appropriate.
Thanks again to anyone that can help in anyway.
Even if it's just to toss some good vibes/encouragement my way.
As I'm about ready to just call it quits at this point.

Again my apologies for the length of the post & if anyone feels it's off topic.

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

To six buckets

It was a psychiatrist. I dont think this was an unshakable diagnosis but it seemed weird that she was so quick to diagnose me. I also don't understand why she excluded snri's as I was showing signs of pretty serious depression and fatigue. I plan on getting another doctor down the road but after getting a few shitty shrinks I'm done for the moment. It was causing me more problems going to these places, after many crap sessions it actually made me more stressed and caused more suicidal thoughts.

Right now I'm just going through my GP as she actually listens to me and prescribes meds more in the ballpark of what I want to try.

 

[IndustrialStrength]

^ Glad to hear your getting what you need from you GP.
Just be careful to not ever let anything bad go down if yours is anything like mine.
My GP wrote me everything I needed for a long time, though I was told he was Pain Management.
When I first saw him he agreed he was PM doc, though now he says he's a GP. 8)
Regardless at first sign of any issue (my hospital stay) he dropped me like a bag of dog shit.
I still have to see the fucker for follow ups, etc.
However, he cut all the medications that matter, & added shit that doesn't.
So just be careful, you never know who to trust.
IMHO no one, but hey, it's not just paranoia.

 

[Isnortice91]

Neuroleptics are torture. Rape is torture. Many of those women who are raped in inpatient biopsychiatric institutions are also forced to take drugs that cause extreme depression, akithisia, TD, and tons of severe physical and mental problems.

The DSM is literally made up. It is voted on. They take a vote on what to consider biological illness and how to define it. That is absurd.

They torture KIDS with neuroleptics. I have taken them so I know they are torture.

Many people who are abused as children end up in psych wards and forced to take neuroleptics - because of MENTAL DISTRESS not MENTAL ILLNESS.

Not a single biological test is conducted on a person before they are forced to take brain seizing drugs that will TORMENT them. And members of the cult of biopsychiatry call it a "treatment" which has "benefits that far outweigh the risks." They TORTURE CHILDREN based on that premise. They don't even have one fulfilled prophecy backing up their fairy tale book (DSM). This is what we call proof: http://www.reasons.org/articles/art...ecy-evidence-for-the-reliability-of-the-bible

This has 0 proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_hypothesis_of_schizophrenia.

Those kids are being tortured RIGHT NOW. If a child has too many temper tantrums, especially in foster care, they can be diagnosed bipolar and chemically restrained with the torture called neuroleptic treatment. Oh excuse me, "antipsychotic" treatment.

Don't worry one day someone will rise to power I will send these elitist drug pushing doctors to concentration camps and starve them to death for doing what they have done.

 

[awesome31311]

Very good post OP. Great read. If the courts were fair psychiatry wouldn't exist

 

[Isnortice91]

^ I would disagree. Doctors fucked my life all up, I've always had major health issues, but they threw major addiction issues on top.
And even though I've spent my whole life trying to get to the root causes they've never had any luck finding them.
When I finally get fed up & get into hospital for month & half thinking I can see specialists get to root of problems.
They instead basically torture me & fuck my medications all up.

Then to top it off my doctor then proceeds to remove what medications the hospital didn't take away.
He also puts me on a taper plan to stop those medications.
Which in my case is a blatant case of malpractice & quite dangerous due to the medications & the effects of removing them to quickly. I wouldn't say just blindly listen to doctors, do your own research.

Hell I'm likely to have seizures &/or brain damage, I already have some from doctors mistakes.
So please for your own sake don't blindly trust doctors.
Also keep in mind that they often aren't doing a damn thing to improve your situation.
There just following the law, covering there own asses, or trying to make a buck like anyone else.

Realtalkloc no offense intended but the real talk is that the doc often doesn't know there ass from there elbow.
When it comes to medications that is, they may know general medicine or there specialty but not medications.
If you wanna know about medications talk to a pharmacist, most doctors just know what the drug reps tell them.
It's pharmacists that know about medications, trust me on that one.
I've always dealt with pharmacists regarding medications & had much better results in getting the right info.

I swear these doctors in California all have narcissistic mental disorders and all of them atleast 99% are Jewish and look at the world as some sort of revenge mechanism. It's almost like since because their people had to go through the holocaust they simply take their anger out on the patients by injecting them with this poison. My friend Steven works as a case manager for a mental health hospital and he tells me all the Jewish doctors there abuse their position as a doctor and only prescribe good medication to rich people from Malibu while lower class people get injections paid for by the state.

 

[Isnortice91]

Putting a child on risperidone is evil. I have read the peer reviewed medical journal studies on putting kids on that stuff, and it is all very clearly rigged to the max. I read in one study that less than 5% of children put on a drug that blocks dopamine and serotonin from binding (the chemicals that make you feel good, relaxed, happy, fun, *excited*, *outgoing* *outspoken*) even developed a little anxiety. Pharma is rigging these studies.

I can not even describe how evil it is. Akathisia, chemically induced depression 24/7, severe restlessness, hopelessness.... It makes them docile. No matter what they do, they won't feel good anyways - so why not be docile.

They use it to restrain kids. For instance, kids with autism can be put on it because it is FDA approved to treat "irritability."

It really is torture. The whole world lies in the hands of the Evil One, that is certain. But you would think they would at least stick to hedonistic pleasure-seeking. You would think they would at least love their OWN children enough not to torment them. Nope, for some reason many have a desire to torment others (children included) and maintain control at all costs. It is completely Satanic to put a kid on that stuff.

But what really gets me is doctors, Big Pharma, and law makers have to be smart enough to at least know what blocking dopamine and serotonin does. They call the main effects of it "side-effects" and say "the benefits outweigh the risks."

I read one person's story of how their parents were abusive and evil, without Love, and how their parents would go to psychiatrists to get them put on anti-psychotics and pretend to be "good people" in public and in front of the psych doc.

I can not even describe how evil it is to put an autistic kid on neuroleptics for their childhood. It is literally something a Nazi would do. The drug BLOCKS DOPAMINE AND SERATONIN. Who would do that to a CHILD? Why do all the psych docs trust peer reviewed studies in medical journals over COMMON SENSE. There is MONEY involved in this. Of course the studies are rigged.

Actually not even the Nazi's were this evil. I studied the NAZI's for 8 years and they did nothing close compared to what the American mental health system does..
Yes NAZI's killed old people who were in their 90's and would put them to sleep via lethal injection and the NAZI'S were never injecting children for as bad and evil as the Nazi's are depicted the Nazi's never played God the Nazi's never tried to alter someones Dopamine levels but you want to know something scary?.
The Soviets were the first under Stalin to use injections that alter the brains chemistry.
The communist throughout the 80s in Russia were the first to create these type of injections like you see today with Invega. I truly believe the more I get older I realize the Nazi's weren't that bad compared to the American mental health system that uses its patients as test dummies for a injection medication that hasn't been on the market more then 15 years so people don't truly know the long term side effects.

 

[Isnortice91]

Very good post OP. Great read. If the courts were fair psychiatry wouldn't exist

What ever you do stay far away from violence unless you have the money to pay a lawyer.
Unfortunately I did not have the money to pay for a lawyer so I used the public defender instead and that is the reason I plead insanity at court was because the public defender told me if I don't want to go to jail then I should plea insanity . If I would've known they were going to push this injection onto me I would've just did the 6 months in county jail.

 

[awesome31311]

What ever you do stay far away from violence unless you have the money to pay a lawyer.
Unfortunately I did not have the money to pay for a lawyer so I used the public defender instead and that is the reason I plead insanity at court was because the public defender told me if I don't want to go to jail then I should plea insanity . If I would've known they were going to push this injection onto me I would've just did the 6 months in county jail.

Public defenders are known to be absolute crap. The rights advisors stationed at our hospitals, when you'd call them, they'd actually say to comply with treatment to get out. They're not objective. The way things are structured the odds are heavily against you, since the system relies on self reported documentation from medical staff, who routinely lie.

 

[Isnortice91]

Public defenders are known to be absolute crap. The rights advisors stationed at our hospitals, when you'd call them, they'd actually say to comply with treatment to get out. They're not objective. The way things are structured the odds are heavily against you, since the system relies on self reported documentation from medical staff, who routinely lie.

Man the mental health department is 100x more evil then Hitler . Did you know these anti-psychotic injections where invented by the Soviets and Stalin used them on his own people and in the 80s these injections in Soviet Union fell under the category of medication when prior they were used to silence people and dumb people down and make them more dosile .