N&PD Moderators: Skorpio | thegreenhand
I strongly doubt MDPV "degrades" into phenylpropylaminopentane.
Okay! I think I may have actually figured it out. Given that you said MW 281 Alcyone, I am fairly certain the mysterious substance is Naphyrone. Pyrovalerone analogue, same molecular weight as you said you detected in the oxidized
sample. Similar effects as described by people who took it.
Okay! I think I may have actually figured it out. Given that you said MW 281 Alcyone, I am fairly certain the mysterious substance is Naphyrone. Pyrovalerone analogue, same molecular weight as you said you detected in the oxidized sample. Similar effects as described by people who took it.
I can tell you for absolute certain you haven't figured it out, there are lots of molecules with that same molecular weight. there is no concievable way a methylenedioxyphenyl can degrade into a naphthyl moety.
Alcyone's GCMS data suggests some methylenedioxyphenyl ring modification in the oxidised samples, but the mass of the degradation product would require highly novel chemistry I cannot see occurring simply on standing at room temperature. The rest of the molecule appears unchanged.
Other data suggests that it is possible for the pyrrolidine ring to be oxidised.
Alcyone's GCMS data seems to be gone, can someone repost it?
"The results don't make sense because they're not at all what I was expecting. I was expecting to see oxidation of the pyrrolidine moiety and possibly hydrolytic cleavage of the resulting lactam, but that's clearly not happening under my reaction conditions. What I'm seeing is a substance with a molecular weight of 281 (that's 6 mass units more than MDPV), and the pyrrolidine and ketone functions are both intact. It appears that there are six hydrogens added to the benzodioxol moiety. That's all I can say for now."