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I hear you on Honeywhite and your disdain for Methamphetamine, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. Methamphetamine is indeed neurotoxic at higher dosages, but if you're taking it as prescribed and not binging, then the difference between Methamphetamine and non-methylated Amphetamine are fairly negligible. You shouldn't worry about having been on Methamphetamine is my point, it's really not so different from other Amphetamines.
I'm also a little curious about some stuff. They definitely don't prescribe Drinamyl (Amobarbital/Dextroamphetamine) is definitely not prescribed anymore, anywhere. These Barbiturate/Amphetamine combination drugs, of which there were many: Dexamyl (American equivalent of Drinamyl), Ambar (Methamphetamine/Phenobarbital) anon. They were immensely popular for a short period of time as common sense and logic would dictate, but their popularity waned significantly in the 70's and were almost completely non-existent by the turn of the decade.
I also don't think that they commonly prescribe Methamphetamine (Desoxyn) to kids for ADHD. A lot of my UK friends have actually told me that prescribing Amphetamine-type stimulants to children is not nearly as common in the UK as it is in the United States. I've also been told by said friends, that if the line is indeed crossed and a stimulant is prescribed, it's typically Methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta). Pharmaceutical Methamphetamine is de facto (I've met 2 people with prescriptions ever), not prescribed in the United States, so it would really surprise me to see the more pharmaceutically conservative British prescribing it to kids.
Honeywhite, I apologize, as I didn't realize that you were dependent upon Opioids in this way. I understood that you used them, but not the actual extent of the use and maybe I just didn't read carefully enough. I'm sure you're aware of the danger in mixing high doses of Barbiturates with Opioids, so I'm not going to over-lecture you, but man, it's a really dangerous practice and I'm still holding out my opinion on the Phenobarbital that you simply aren't aware of how intoxicated you actually are. It's a hallmark of both Barbiturate and Benzodiazepine intoxication. People often think they are totally fine or unaffected. The first few times I used Alprazolam (Xanax) at 1mg and 2mg respectively, I actually thought that they did nothing and hence, didn't pay my friend. I thought he had burned me. My point is, it's not an intelligence thing, it happens to the best of us.
The shitty thing about relying on drugs Honeywhite, is that the phases of addiction commonly include one in which the user feels "complete" when they have their drugs. They don't feel like it's truly a problem, but in the back of their head, the idea is beginning to form. Feeling like you "need" the drugs, meaning, your problem specifically is somehow "different" than other people who become addicted to Opiates. They're using them to "get high" whereas you need them to "function" and get out of bed. I'm not condescending to you whatsoever, but I have an opinion, and it's just my personal opinion, that you might not have a full grasp upon how physically/psychologically dependent you might be.
The fact is that, even if you "need something to live", prescribers can still tell you to piss off and will leave you crying in the corner. I went through the same phase in my life, where I thought that I was "different" because I was using Opioids as "antidepressants", not simply to get high. I needed them and I had a way to use them in which I would never become addicted nor suffer negative consequences. I'm not saying our scenarios are identical or that you have to listen to me, but I thought it might be worth throwing out there. It's only because I want to see you succeed and not have to make the same mistakes I've made.
I'm also a little curious about some stuff. They definitely don't prescribe Drinamyl (Amobarbital/Dextroamphetamine) is definitely not prescribed anymore, anywhere. These Barbiturate/Amphetamine combination drugs, of which there were many: Dexamyl (American equivalent of Drinamyl), Ambar (Methamphetamine/Phenobarbital) anon. They were immensely popular for a short period of time as common sense and logic would dictate, but their popularity waned significantly in the 70's and were almost completely non-existent by the turn of the decade.
I also don't think that they commonly prescribe Methamphetamine (Desoxyn) to kids for ADHD. A lot of my UK friends have actually told me that prescribing Amphetamine-type stimulants to children is not nearly as common in the UK as it is in the United States. I've also been told by said friends, that if the line is indeed crossed and a stimulant is prescribed, it's typically Methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta). Pharmaceutical Methamphetamine is de facto (I've met 2 people with prescriptions ever), not prescribed in the United States, so it would really surprise me to see the more pharmaceutically conservative British prescribing it to kids.
Honeywhite, I apologize, as I didn't realize that you were dependent upon Opioids in this way. I understood that you used them, but not the actual extent of the use and maybe I just didn't read carefully enough. I'm sure you're aware of the danger in mixing high doses of Barbiturates with Opioids, so I'm not going to over-lecture you, but man, it's a really dangerous practice and I'm still holding out my opinion on the Phenobarbital that you simply aren't aware of how intoxicated you actually are. It's a hallmark of both Barbiturate and Benzodiazepine intoxication. People often think they are totally fine or unaffected. The first few times I used Alprazolam (Xanax) at 1mg and 2mg respectively, I actually thought that they did nothing and hence, didn't pay my friend. I thought he had burned me. My point is, it's not an intelligence thing, it happens to the best of us.
The shitty thing about relying on drugs Honeywhite, is that the phases of addiction commonly include one in which the user feels "complete" when they have their drugs. They don't feel like it's truly a problem, but in the back of their head, the idea is beginning to form. Feeling like you "need" the drugs, meaning, your problem specifically is somehow "different" than other people who become addicted to Opiates. They're using them to "get high" whereas you need them to "function" and get out of bed. I'm not condescending to you whatsoever, but I have an opinion, and it's just my personal opinion, that you might not have a full grasp upon how physically/psychologically dependent you might be.
The fact is that, even if you "need something to live", prescribers can still tell you to piss off and will leave you crying in the corner. I went through the same phase in my life, where I thought that I was "different" because I was using Opioids as "antidepressants", not simply to get high. I needed them and I had a way to use them in which I would never become addicted nor suffer negative consequences. I'm not saying our scenarios are identical or that you have to listen to me, but I thought it might be worth throwing out there. It's only because I want to see you succeed and not have to make the same mistakes I've made.