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can anyone link me to where on a legit site it gives personal use limits for particular stuff? i tire reading threads where everone is just claiming its 1g then the next guy says 3g etc etc.

im more so after the Victorian laws, but a collection of links to help all the aussie guys would be helpfull id reckon. and even if you cant link me to the numbers, a link to the right place would be great! hour and half of searching so far has got me no where. maybe im not using the right terms?

thanks guys


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here's the best info for victorian people we have found!
open the link, and download the 'RTF', or rich text format, it will open up in word perfectly with tables showing correctly easily to read.

Drugs, Poisons And Controlled Substances Act

for those who want to skip to the good bits [weights for chemicals] skip ahead to Pg.271.

do read over it, it contains alot of info for what you could be charged with for having anything listed here, maximum penalties, how they add up weights of mutiple substances etc. etc.

FOR THE LAZIER PEOPLE, lol, opi8 has typed out a very short list of some common chemicals at post #5.

please be aware you could still be charged with trafficking if caught with under the 'traffickable quantity' and that you shouldnt presume you are immune to the law. read the thread and the related sections of the document, and you should understand why.

thanks for everyones help so far!
 
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hmm we had them in a thread somewhere already...i'll find it.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/dmata1985256/sch1.html <--- NSW...

Here's the thread ;

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...?highlight=mdma+trafficable+amounts+australia

the Victorian link seems to have expired. But I'm sure it's on this page somewhere, but I cant seem to find it right

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/s...on&callback=off&legisopt=&view=relevance&max=

or that sites home address and search yourself-

http://www.austlii.edu.au/ or contact them and ask, but someone here will hopefully know.
 
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I'm not sure if values quoted in this thread are still current: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/489119-State-by-state-trafficable-quantities?
The article appears to be removed from their website now. I had a browse of their site ( http://www.dpmp.unsw.edu.au/ ) and couldn't find anything. There's a lot of good information there though; I found the table in the latter half of the timeline interesting ( http://notes.med.unsw.edu.au/dpmpweb.nsf/page/Drug+Policy+Timeline ). The image appears to be hosted on tinypic so I've uploaded it here:
 
What's up with Tasmania? Surely that's a typo, maybe 2.5g?

Look for the Drugs, Poisons and Controlled Substances Act

Here are a few, I'm not sure how to do tables so I've separated them by pipes | however it is more complicated than this as there are colums 1A and 1B, 2A and 2B etc. which have differences in weights and I'm not quite sure what they mean.

Drug Name | Large Commercial Quantity | Commercial Quantity | Traffickable Quantity | Small Quantity

Cannabis L. | 250kg or 1000 plants | 25kg or 100 plants | 250g or 10 plants | 50g
Papaver somniferum L., other than its seed | 1000 plants | 10kg or 250 plants | 100g or 50 plants | 5 plants
Cocaine | 750g | 100g | 3g | 0.75g
Heroin | 750g | 250g | 3g | 1g
Ketamine | 1kg | 500g | 3g | N/A
LSD | 150mg | 50mg | 150ug | 20ug
Methamphetamine | 750g | 100g | 3g | 0.75g
MDA | 750g | 100g | 3g | 0.75g
MDMA | 750g | 100g | 3g | 0.75g
PSEUDOEPHEDRINE | 750g | 100g | 3g | 0.75g
TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL | 3kg | 1kg | 25g | 1g
 
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Some people have mentioned it prior in the sr thread i think that tassie is fair bit more, but that seems surprising. Lucky them lol.
 
lol, thanks guys, didnt expect so many helpfull posts! was expecting more of a UTFSF negitive attitude... i really did read alot and just found too many conflicting opinions without links, or too old of posts to trust.

im going to keep browsing now, hopefully ill find something up to date on a gov site. if i do, ill link back here!

last thing i want to do is stock up for genuine personal use and have over the limit, risking higher charges if everything went bad.
 
Tasmania the amount currently for MDMA I believe is ten grams.

Don't quote me on that but i'm fairly certain.

I live there currently, laws are very lenient in comparison to other states.
 
oki, im onto something interesting for Victorians... i havent read over the lot of it but its exciting because i found something that might have info for alot of people, im glad iv persisted!

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/dpacsa1981422/
skip to part V... this is where it gets interesting...




http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/dpacsa1981422/s70.html - definitions - i highly recommend people read this, because it refers to having multiple drugs, each under the limits, but being able to add them up to obtain a charge of trafficing...

a quick copy paste of one example they use. with teh numbers, before the '/' is the found/confiscated ammount, after is the 'commercial' limit in grams;
"To aggregate the individual quantities, determine the quantities involved as
fractions of the specified commercial quantities: 200/250 (heroin), 80/100
(amphetamine)and 800/1000 (tetrahydrocannabinol) ie 4/5 plus 4/5 plus 4/5. The
total of the fractions when added together is 12/5 or 2·4 which is a number
greater than 1. This is a quantity which is not less than an aggregated
commercial quantity of 2 or more drugs of dependence."

seriously worth reading though... i will be on this site for a while tonight...

they keep mentioning limits that are "set out in column 2 of Part 3 of Schedule Eleven" or very similar, maybe column 3 or 1 etc, i presume this will be where i find limits in weight...
 
ok, heres a clip i pulled straight from it, its all very messy and poorly written up [maybe for the format the browser opens it in??]

MDMA

start quote
"2×0 HYDROXYAMPHETAMINE 2×0 2×0 Sch. 11 4-HYDROXYBUTANOIC ACID (GHB) 2×0 50×0
N-HYDROXY-3, 4-METHYLENEDIOXYAMPHETAMINE

0×5
" end quote

going by my theory of the x, that would be .5gram limit? or have i not got the chemical name right [the N-HYDROXY- confuses me a bit honestly]
 
oh, opi8, just scrolled up and found your edit! thanks, where did you find that? link?

EDIT: in regard to the quantity limits there, each quantity bracket has a minimum and maximim sentance. pretty sure i read over that info regarding sentance and quantity qualification.
small quantity is what we are refering to as personal use, and traffic quantity is the limit we do not want to meet OR exceed.
 
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beragh said:
I'm not sure if values quoted in this thread are still current: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/489119-State-by-state-trafficable-quantities?
The article appears to be removed from their website now. I had a browse of their site ( http://www.dpmp.unsw.edu.au/ ) and couldn't find anything. There's a lot of good information there though; I found the table in the latter half of the timeline interesting ( http://notes.med.unsw.edu.au/dpmpweb.nsf/page/Drug+Policy+Timeline ). The image appears to be hosted on tinypic so I've uploaded it here:
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So, what, if youre caught with anything under that you wont be charged? Or put another way, anything over these amounts and you can be charged with trafficking/dealing?
 
maybe... i wounldnt count on it though. honestly i woundt stock any more than you 'need', keeping to a minimum. but with the drought on mdma, id like to keep a little aside just incase we hit round 2.

this is why i started the thread, to find a yes/no answer that is up to date. im hopefull, if i get some help, we can find the answers.
 
pinkanga said:
So, what, if youre caught with anything under that you wont be charged? Or put another way, anything over these amounts and you can be charged with trafficking/dealing?
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As I understand it these quantities are the minimum quantity that you can get caught with and by default be charged with trafficking. I am sure it is possible to be charged with trafficking while in possession of less, if for example you have dealing paraphernillia like scales and baggies. Also if they caught you in the act or found evidence on your phone you were dealing I am sure it would qualify as trafficking as well.
 
Search for "Drugs, Poisons and Controlled Substances Act"

That is where my data is from. As I stated, there are subsections which I don't fully understand that have different amounts. It's a long document, you will have to see it yourself to understand as I'm too drunk to simplify it.
 
lol Im moving to Tasmania. And taking my 25g of MDMA with me =D


ps. I dont really have 25g of MDMA. hehe
 
Tasmania just got a lot cooler.
The LSD laws are ridiculous.
What's the punishment difference between trafficking and consumer amount/small amount whatever?
 
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