Dam you seem to know your shitt ! That’s whats up bro us addict are actually really smart about to be in law school did college on fet/methadone/coke still have a 3.7 gpa but you chemistry is beyond me. I can do the cold water extraction for percs and hydros that’s about it lol we’ll that’s really all I’ve tried. I honestly would like you to test this brick of fet I’ll give u like a .5G for doing so. Your probably saying.5G wtf is that? Nothing! Lol just trust me girl who did it in front of me 2 days in a row almost died off a dot went to the hospital and everything and she wasn’t waking up from narcan at all kept her all night. The next day she gets out she’s blowing me up I go over there bcuz we’re just friends with benifits whatever w.e she manipulated me into giving her half the size I gave her the day before she mother f$$$img almost died again! I’m literally shaking her saying you’re going to send me back to PRISON for a very long time please just wake tf up. Long story short I made her stand up with me until it passed hrs later. I want to know wtf this stuff really is bcuz I went 5 days without wasn’t even that sick for 4 days took a subutex went to ER from p/w I’ve never heard of this in my life and the fet overpowered 6mg like i never even took it. I know it’s obviously an analogue bcuz of the half life even tho my tolerance is pretty insane I was doing lines this girl who’s on methadone is dying off a dot so that could add to it I guess. I told my man with the brick like something must b wrong bro this shouldn’t be happening he’s like u think the Mexican cartel is going to give me some weird bs (he knows nothing about opioids or opiates) I said Na I’m not saying that but this is not pure medical grade fet I dont know if it even is fet at this point. Could be a research chemical which is why I really need it tested ASAP. Not with a fet test with a lab test for all substances. Lmk if that’s something you’re interested in.
I'd be thinking you have a fentalouge/u44770/etonitazene cut with xylazine.
It's a very strong alpha adrenergic blocker used in vetinery medicine clonidine would be the closest thing to it that you may have tried.
There are lots of samples turning up positive in the US. it's readily available for cheap in China, and is relatively unscheduled in most countries.
It has dependence forming qualities that can produce a frightening and dangerous withdrawal symptom if used regularly. The only way to do it safely is slowly lower the dose.
Ya I dont know about that brother. 8mg of sub is equivalent to 30mg of methadone and subs have ceiling of I believe only 24 mg so that’s equivalent to 90mg of methadone. Still strong it’s stronger then morphine stronger then dope kind of but wen I say stronger really it’s just bcuz they have more of a binding factor to your receptors. That doesn’t really mean it’s strong tho. In prison I would do half a milligram or a milli and get lit but it still wasn’t like a heroin high but still got me thru prison for sure. Also fentanyl is completely stronger then bupe. If your going through p/w and ur in the ER there supposed to override it with fentanyl but that’s very rare so don’t try that at home lol. I went into p/w 3 times this month the “pure fet” overrides it every single time which basically means it’s stronger. They do have pure bupe patches tho for pain I believe there only .5mg tho but less is definitely definitely more it’s just a fact or they would have mad the patches for pain a high mg dose but they don’t. We definitely have it better then 20-25 yrs ago I guess bcuz they only had methadone which is liquid handcuffs but bupe is so scary to me now bcuz every time I try to get on them they don’t work. Someone told me at detox that once u get out and u wait a couple days try a milligram if u feel worse override it keeps trying every day with more bupe if u keep feeling sick keep overriding it until ur taking 4mg-8mg and it’s in your receptors at this point but if you feel sick again on 8mg override it again then the next day should work fine I personally would love to just take my small pieces of subs I never would have stopped if it wasn’t for parole making me goto a methadone program bcuz the outpatient program I was in gave me fake ditty’s literally had methadone suboxone fentanyl heroin weed that’s not even possible you’d be sick af and I wasn’t even smoking at the time I had gone a good 8 yrs without smoking. They did that bcuz I was about to complete the program but they wanted that insurance money I hate those scumbags never goto REVCORE recovery center they play games all the time. Luckily I got off the methadone by being prescribed oxy 20s 6 times a day but it wasn’t holding me so I started doing that bs fet sh!t
I'd say 8 or 16 mg sub is the ceiling TBH, and there is no way that 24mg of subutex is equal to 90mg methadone.
Two different drugs. One being a partial agonist just doesn't have the same "stopping power" if you will, as a full agonist such as methadone.
I can't see how anyone with a heavy dope habit is getting by on 8mg sub for a few days here and there when they aren't or can't afford to use.
.3 heroin base here a day habit (about 30% pure) needs at least 30 if not 50mg methadone to substitute.
It took me weeks before 20mg sub would hold me after the doctor had me jump off 90mg methadone.
Horses for courses and sub has great benefits but Jesus use it to kick opiates because it certainly isn't up to be a "get me through the weekend SUBbstitute until I can score proper stuff" kind of drug.
I think Portland was the first to have the “ safe place to get high locations “ and things appear much worse that it was 15 yrs ago when I visited them…