Just wanted to reply to this thread and state from my experince, KRATOM IS BAD FOR YOUR HEART (Especially the extracts and tinctures they sell at the gas stations)
I did a normal dose of it today and had a minor heart attack symptoms. Couldn't breath, and it felt just like when i used to do stimulants.
I am sure it is safe in moderation for people who don't have any heart issues, but I highly recommend avoiding this crap if you have heart trouble. Also it's bad for the liver too....I got bad liver pain the last few times I did it. So not sure if it's the combo of other herbs they are mixing it with or the kratom itself. Most likely the kratom. And they even have a warning on the bottle saying not to take if you have liver problems or heart disease.
so that should tell people right there.
Just wanted to warn people away from this stuff, to hopefully save a life or save someone from unnessecary heart damage. The buzz isn't that great anyway...not worth it.
Mdma far better and far less damaging on the heart from my experience.
Bottom line is- Kratom sucks.
But at least it wasn't addictive at all for me. I did it everyday for months and quit with zero withdrawls. But then when I tried it again I got severe nausea and puked all night and then had the heart attack and liver symptoms today when I tried it.