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wendisoul

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I posted this in the Music forum... but I thought I would get a better response here.
Personally, I love the spirituality and yoga and music and purity of this idea.

The New Age of Rave
They chant, they dance, they do downward dog. No drugs or drink allowed.
By Suzanne Smalley
NEWSWEEK


July 7 issue — Kim Schmidt glistens with sweat as she dances, trancelike, to the repetitive beat coming from industrial-size speakers in the corner. It’s two hours past midnight in a loft in New York City’s Chelsea district, and more than a hundred blissed-out twenty somethings spin with her in the half light. Down a dark hall, in the “chill out” room, others sit—eyes closed, hands clasped—looking blank. What are these people on?
NOTHING, IT TURNS out. Or rather, Schmidt and her friends are high on “New Age raves,” an underground movement that blends the healthiest elements of raves—electronic music and dance marathons—with yoga, meditation and other spiritual rites. Drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. All the people at this event, sponsored by a group called Body Temple, are looking for a Saturday-night party where they can lose themselves without taking anything more potent than a shot of blue-algae juice. Some are urban yoga addicts looking for new ways to get a fix. Others, like Schmidt, are refugees from the rave scene who have hit bottom and climbed back up. More than a decade after raves started in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago, club goers have had enough of overdoses and hangovers. “I was a club kid who used to try to get the high with ecstasy,” says Schmidt, 27, her ponytail bouncing. “Now, I get it naturally. I like being around people who are celebrating in a healthy way. And I love to dance.”
Promoters are launching holistic raves all over the country, from Oregon to Chicago to Los Angeles. In San Francisco, there’s a New Age rave almost every weekend. Parties are held anywhere from yoga centers to nightclubs, and people drive hundreds of miles to attend them. Once there, they dance as if their lives depended on it, and that’s just the point, says Lynn Schofield Clark. After years of grim news, from Columbine to September 11 to the Iraq war, young people need new ways to celebrate. “The idea of experiencing life and a sense of community in a way that is not risking their lives is pretty appealing,” says Schofield Clark, author of “From Angels to Aliens,” a book about spirituality and youth. Dr. Dean Ornish, an expert on the health benefits of yoga and meditation, would put it another way. “It’s a more healthful way [than drugs] to open up into the altered states of awareness which dance and music can bring you to.”
In Los Angeles, a group called Ambient Groove Temple throws all-night parties —once a month: deejays spin the hard-driving electronic music you would expect to find in a nightclub. Evenings begin with yoga and meditation sessions that last up to three hours. Then, participants listen to lectures on Eastern philosophy and how to save the environment before roaming through three rooms where they can sample a smorgasbord of raw food and herbal drinks. Massage therapists offering Thai- and shiatsu-style rubs are on call to loosen dancers’ muscles before they hit the floor.
The first party was in San Francisco about three years ago, but elsewhere the trend has taken off only within the past year, and already it has moved beyond the coasts. In Chicago a crew called TranceZenDance Tribe throws similar events, also drug- and alcohol-free. After a guided meditation focused on what organizer Travis Robb calls “linking consciousness with everyone on the planet,” and a sound-healing session (in which a musician on an Aboriginal instrument called a didgeridoo circles the room, playing at everyone’s feet), TranceZenDance deejays crank up the music. Images of the Taj Mahal and the Pyramids, and geometric shapes flash on a wall-size screen.
Organizers range from small-time yoga-shop owners to established nightclub impresarios. Later this year, Robert Wootton, who managed the popular Irish band Hothouse Flowers for six years, will launch a club called Spirit in New York City. Spirit will occupy the same building that used to house Twilo, perhaps the world’s most famous electronica and ecstasy warehouse until it was shuttered two years ago after repeated drug busts. The new club will serve alcohol, but the drug policy will be so tough that Wootton has already spent time with New York police planning security modeled after the club he now runs in Dublin. “If we catch you consuming or selling drugs, we don’t just eject you, we call the police and arrest you on the spot.”
Like its Irish cousin, Spirit will feature three floors—Mind, Body and Soul—and every week deejays and performers will stage a floor show based on the creation myth. “We’re taking over darkness with light,” says Wootton, alluding to a time when Twilo was so plagued by overdoses that management rented ambulances to sit outside, waiting for casualties. “I’ve watched where the rave culture went wrong,” he says. “We’re trying to bring it back to its pure state.”
Wootton’s focus on ancient rituals would make Body Temple’s acolytes feel right at home. Marketed as a “tantric circus” that “creates an environment where the tribal and the mythic coexist on the cutting edge,” the New York event regularly features what may be the ultimate collision of worlds: the shamanistic trance-dance ceremony. A 28-year-old “trance-dance facilitator” named Parashakti (whose bio notes that she is “descended from a long line of Jerusalem healers”) leads a rite during which she encourages everyone to find his inner “power animals.” The crowd listens raptly, eyes closed and inhaling billowing clouds of incense, while repeating her chants. After the ceremony, partygoers don blindfolds to heighten their sensory perceptions while they bust a move. Parashakti surveys her domain proudly, the diamond-encrusted bindi between her eyes flashing. Beatific kids are kicking it and the organizers are counting their profits. Just saying no to drugs never looked so cool.

© 2003 Newsweek, Inc.
 
Sounds like a cool idea. I kinda wish there were some of those in the US.

...but I bet at least SOMEONE in that place is pilling.
 
Am I the only person who still enjoys tripping out at parties (nobody uses the word "rave" anymore, unless they're a tool)? Fuck that, I wouldn't go to a party where EVERYONE is stone cold sober. If it came to that, I could just listen to music in my car...free of annoying sweaty people bumping into me. Whats the fun of parties if they're totally legit? Might as well go to a club with all the other clubbers then.
 
Acidfiend said:
Am I the only person who still enjoys tripping out at parties (nobody uses the word "rave" anymore, unless they're a tool)? Fuck that, I wouldn't go to a party where EVERYONE is stone cold sober. If it came to that, I could just listen to music in my car...free of annoying sweaty people bumping into me. Whats the fun of parties if they're totally legit? Might as well go to a club with all the other clubbers then.

Man... I LOVE almost everything about parties and I have never been on anything when I was at one. I think it is all about the frame of mind that you enter the room with. It is all about the music, the people getting together, the connectedness, the letting go that such an atmosphere can provide, the energy and physical activity. The only downer for me is seeing people messed up on couches and the floor. I have been to a sober party and it was great.... if the scene is going to continue I think that "clean" is the direction that parties need to head.
I would argue that you can go get tripped out in your car if you want to too. Just please don't drive.
People aren't annoying if they are enjoying the music and getting in the flow.
 
Dont get me wrong, I've done most of my parties sober...but that doesn't mean I dont appreciate the added benefit of an 1/8th of ganja and some LSD to munch on.

have been to a sober party and it was great.... if the scene is going to continue I think that "clean" is the direction that parties need to head.

You can do your clean parties (or "socials" as I like to call them ;) ). I prefer PARTIES, where people can do drugs and not be discriminated against or looked down upon. Etards, tweekers, and blind drunks are annoying though...I understand that completely. Still, if they want to have a good time and thats what they have to do to do it, I'm not going to be the one to rain on their parade. Its their life.

I would argue that you can go get tripped out in your car if you want to too. Just please don't drive.

Oh, but I do. And often ;)
lol

People aren't annoying if they are enjoying the music and getting in the flow.

You must have not been partying that long. Some of the most annoying people I have ever witnessed at parties are people that get WAY into the music and step on peoples feet and spray their sweat everywhere while they dance...without giving two shits about the people around them trying to get into the groove. And since when do you have to sober to enjoy music or get into the flow? Dont most people do drugs to facilitate that state of mind in the first place?

I'm not totally disagreeing with you, I just think that making parties totally drug and alcohol free and scorning the use of drugs takes away a HUGE part of the scene that made it the way it was. When raving first started, it began with ACID house. It was the first musical genre to name the genre in celebration of psychedelic drug use. Part of the feeling of the scene was to be FREE, free to do drugs and dress in ridiculous clothes and dance like a retard. If the scene was ALL about the music, it wouldn't be a party. It would be a concert. I dont do concerts. Raving was about a lot of different things for a lot of different people, but at its heart it was about freedom.
 
Sounds very wonderful..weird..I was just thinking earlier that maybe people would start getting together like this, without even thinking of drugs. :)
 
Well its a great idea -so long as the new age hippies are dominant at these parties. Without drugs, a very enlightened attitude is required to creat the same "oneness" and communality as a regular rave. Thats not to say every1s high at a normal rave either, they arent - but the drugs usually help make that "vibe" possible. If these parties were crashed by a bunch of teenagers just out of high school - or the new years eve or weekend clubbing crowd - the vibe would be more shot that at a normal rave.

Still, i doubt theyd want to come to something with yoga and enviromental activism. Personally id love to see more of that shit at normal raves - i love the attitudes of the dance community, and id like to see them expressed more.

When it comes down to its, its about having the right vibe. If youve got the right vibe, you prolly wont get any drug accidents anyway - people will be responsible and look out for each other.

Still im all for healthy lifestyles, and thats what they are trying to promote, so as long as theyre not all nazi about it, its a good idea.
 
Bah humbug. Parties without drugs suck. Then you actually *care* that you're sitting in a puddle of some sort of bodily fluid mixed with dirt. Plus the lights don't look as pretty. =D

Nah, j/k. Sounds like a cool idea. Not really for me since I quit parties the same time I quit drugs. The two were just too intertwined for me. I've partied sober as well, and I don't care what people say- it's just not the same. You reach an entirely different level and have a completely different experience. I suppose that could be attained through meditation...but too much work dude! :p For those that want to party sober though, definitely an interesting idea.
 
Once you learn how to do meditation to a point where you can feel rushe's and do other cool things without drugs, then you will realise parties like this are about tripping and getting into a trance like its been done for thousands of years -without drugs.
 
*SWeeT-e* said:
^ It's been done for thousands of years WITH drugs too. ;)


Yeah but my own personal view is that drugs are good to experiment and show you what else is possible, yet you should not depend on them for each 'experience' since you can get into unhealthy patterns/ side effects. A good beat is enough to get into a trance, whether its around a fire place or a dance floor. By exploring it naturally I feel you gain more personal development and insight, plus, I find there are a whole lot of other benefits for doing it without drugs. At least when I compared the two I found drugfree is better in terms of having a spiritual experience, and dancing the night away. Even if you enjoy a variety of drugs, it doesn't mean you should not attempt to explore your boundries with meditation and yoga.
 
agreed Void...

drugs can give you the perception of potential...but the trick is learning that they aren't the means to a habitual life of living to that potential.

And by potential I don't necessarily mean the 'feelings' that are recieved from drug usage. I'm more speaking of the way things are seen, the spiritual awareness and growth that can be a factor if approached so, the imagination ignition that can occur, the open mindedness, the willingness to do certain 'positive' things for self and others.

In time...drugs will begin to take you on the downward path further from that potential...when abused and depended upon.
Atleast that is the behavior pattern I have noticed to a degree in myself...and in the lives of others.

Sweet-E:
I think your situation of drugs and raves being heavily intertwined is a common factor with many individuals in this scene. It's when you begin in the scene the drugs are a great compliment to the event....but it's when this is a repetitve action that it begins to fade your perception of events. And then it begins to turn into an issue with you and the drug usage that has become a problem....and it then becomes seen as the raves being the influence to the problem and you can't find yourself 'happy' at a rave without the drugs because of the constant inner torment that keeps trying to lure you into taking something....
Like I said above about not referring to the 'feelings' that drugs give as being necessarily the post-drug use beneficial factor. Well I think that you became attached to the 'feelings' that drugs facilitated, whilst at a rave, more so than the knowledge it was aiming to share. And in that you set standards for the feelings that raves are meant to give you based on that drug induced high.

As for the original post:
I think it is a great idea.
It is very much similar to many ideals I have formed about what a rave could be....a 'pure' rave.
But...something I might debate...
I think it could be beneficial for certain individuals....who might have difficulty with association of the spiritual ideas and practices that occur at these events...to maybe be allowed the usage of a substance...but under the supervision and guide of the peers in attendance that are facilitating the event and practices. I think it could work positively on a person in a way of opening them up to the event, the spiritual aspects, and the ideals presented before them. And I think it would only take one time and then they could find that place and mind naturally after that.
just an ideal that I think could possibly work into this rave-branched culture in time.
Similar to the phenomenon of ecstacy and personal therapy sessions...and the quick progress that comes of it typically...according to many psychiatrists and doctors.
 
THEORY:pureraving is the blueprint that substances remind one of parts of self so then one may(if 1 so chooses,to) then abstain, having had the memory of the potential of self to assure self brilliance.

You need to know,you need to know,you are the greatest dancer

You are superconcious starlight in physical incarnate, how could you be anything less than wonderful in thy essence?

When you re-reconnect with pure Self
(that you never were actually separate from except perhaps in vision,)
then there shall you refind your true love and all your talents shining as they always were.

When one raves in true joy without added cliche' rave substances, one is a free being,without attachment to a molecule(s) which is/are indeed very nicely reminding you of your already provided sparkleness ability.The practise of pureraving is a healthy clear free one,so then when one imbibes or not, one is happy.Dancing practice shall assist in the beautiful unfoldment//retelling/reitterance of your individual special heart song fragrance.

What you are looking for you already are.
 
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While I might be tempted to say this is a great idea, I thought about it today and decided otherwise.

The issue is exclusivity. The rave scene is about openness, non-discrimination, and like Acidfiend said - freedom. To separate yourself from that and setup conditions of entry into your circle is not rave, its not PLUR, its like post-millenium pop music. Taking elements of the rave culture and mixing it into a pre-established culture. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against these people who want to get together and do their thing, I just think its wrong to proclaim the "new age of rave" - it implies the replacement of the current which is not needed at all quite frankly.

[BEGIN RANT]

If you're annoyed by the sweat-flingers, the etards, and the hardcore psychonauts, then perhaps you need to take a long hard look in the mirror before telling the world you're a marginalised raver, hypocrite, nobody needs other people present to partake in spiritual practice, so why don't we just keep the personal growth here and the socialising there, yes? and no drugs or drink? sounds like a frikkin ruleigion to me, yeah, lets all spend our lives jumping in and out of structured ritualistic mindwashing get togethers while at the same time tell "those Christian fundamentalist fools" they just don't get it, tell em we're so smart, tell em we're looking after ourselves, tell em we're not gonna be commercialised like those ravers did, we're at the leading edge of freedom baby! you wouldn't know a hedonist if one came up and told you you look good enough to fuck, just package those people into your preconceived "drug-fucked wasters" category while never understanding the true and age-old philosophy behind it all, yes, hedonism dates back to the times of Socrates in case you never bothered to learn, educate yourself don't be told, you wouldn't know freedom anymore than an animal bred in captivity, believing ultimate harmony comes from spiritual practice alone, well here's a newsflash for ya, there's a whole nother world out there and it ain't gonna appreciate you trying to twist around what it holds dear, and I'm frikken sorry if I've hurt your feelings, a cold bucket of water in the morning ain't nice either but it does the fucking job.

[/END RANT]

So, other than that, I hope they find what they're looking for.
 
valid points...

but I see this 'new' culture in its beggining states...and I'm sure there will be other 'promoter's' of similar events that may reform the ideals a bit...

hypothesize
experiment
learn
grow
change
develop
find the way that fits
 
I never in a million years thought these words would ever come out of my mouth (or my keyboard), but...






I love nads.








There I said it, and no I'm not a homo (no offence) ;)
 
Its a nice though but there is no way a completely sober rave would ever happen.
 
Oceanboy said:
THEORY:pureraving is the blueprint that substances remind one of parts of self so then one may(if 1 so chooses,to) then abstain, having had the memory of the potential of self to assure self brilliance.

What you are looking for you already are.


Very nice :)
 
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