TheLoveBandit
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A few quick comments from my stats.
Averaged over the 5 years, you are seeing the following (points based on description above):
Which tells me a few things. SEC is consistently viewed as 'stronger' by both AP (opinions) and BCS (computers and opinions). The AP opinions tend to consistently over value ACC and B12 teams from the start, while the BCS sees PAC10 teams fall through the course of the season. Maybe the B10 is undervalued by the BCS?
While the specific teams may rise or fall in any given poll, and that is worth considering how it effects the rankings, the conferences overall can be debatable in terms of 'strength' by these kinds of numbers in my opinion. Unless you wish to write off ALL these based on East Coast bias, or SEC bias....but how much are you willing to argue that at season end?
Back to the effect of a single team, you can see for instance that this year Ole Miss fell considerably from being a top 5 team, but others rise to make up the difference. So in the case of the SEC the general conference stays ranked, but the AP opinions were way wrong on 'who' was the strong team. Likewise, we can probably see a trend where USC remains highly ranked each year, until they lose *that* game, but the AP opinions consider the overall conference consistent (USC falls, someone else climbs to make up the ranking power)....whilst the BCS simply punishes the conference. If we look at the B10+1, there is usually that highly ranked tOSU squad, a #8-14 PSU, and 'another' team, who over the course of the year will fall slightly in public opinion (AP) but gain in the BCS as tOSU falls, PSU rises and falls, and someone like IOWA steadily climbs.
I'm not saying these numbers are a foundation for arguments, but they are fodder for discussion.
Averaged over the 5 years, you are seeing the following (points based on description above):
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[U]Conference AP(Start-End) BCS(Start-End) Change(AP,BCS)[/U]
ACC 47-34 37-38 -12, +1
B10 57-52 44-52 -5, +8
B12 60-46 56-55 -14, -1
BE 25-28 27-27 +3, -1
PAC10 43-44 52-36 +2, -16
SEC 82-77 79-72 -5, -7Which tells me a few things. SEC is consistently viewed as 'stronger' by both AP (opinions) and BCS (computers and opinions). The AP opinions tend to consistently over value ACC and B12 teams from the start, while the BCS sees PAC10 teams fall through the course of the season. Maybe the B10 is undervalued by the BCS?
While the specific teams may rise or fall in any given poll, and that is worth considering how it effects the rankings, the conferences overall can be debatable in terms of 'strength' by these kinds of numbers in my opinion. Unless you wish to write off ALL these based on East Coast bias, or SEC bias....but how much are you willing to argue that at season end?
Back to the effect of a single team, you can see for instance that this year Ole Miss fell considerably from being a top 5 team, but others rise to make up the difference. So in the case of the SEC the general conference stays ranked, but the AP opinions were way wrong on 'who' was the strong team. Likewise, we can probably see a trend where USC remains highly ranked each year, until they lose *that* game, but the AP opinions consider the overall conference consistent (USC falls, someone else climbs to make up the ranking power)....whilst the BCS simply punishes the conference. If we look at the B10+1, there is usually that highly ranked tOSU squad, a #8-14 PSU, and 'another' team, who over the course of the year will fall slightly in public opinion (AP) but gain in the BCS as tOSU falls, PSU rises and falls, and someone like IOWA steadily climbs.
I'm not saying these numbers are a foundation for arguments, but they are fodder for discussion.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
But if you were speaking to our regular practice of cream puff ooc games, I still can't argue beyond FSU, and the occasional matchup with MIA. I might try to stretch it to USF next year, but I can't do that without having a shit eating grin.
