Benzos More reasons to love Diazepam

[Nas47]

Never used disso...so could not comment.i ain't got some effects of my dayly 20mg diazepam....acostumize

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Nitras or Mogadon is available here.It was good..stronger than diaz.as i remember.5mg tablets only

Over here to, there is a match.

UK-ers are making Nitrazepam sound as the bomb. Like Nimetazepam is in Asia. Overhere Flunitrazepam is highly regarded. All three are nitro's right. I loved Clonazolam when it was available. Also a nitro.

My personal favorite till now, with the limited experience of Flunitrazepam. Temazepam, almost like Alcohol in a pill.

 

[Jabberwocky]

So how come Temazepam hits within 20 minutes. Purely subjectively.

The egg’s (gel formulation) do hit faster than capsules - but just because the peak plasma occurs within 2-3 hours doesn’t mean you won’t feel it first.

That said, Temazepam is not a fast acting benzo when taken orally, it’s Medium.

Fun fact: Caffeine takes roughly 45 min to work; I don’t know about you, but I feel more awake after the first few sips and this illustrates how powerful our mind is (placebo).

 

[Nas47]

Yes...Flunitrazepam(Rohypnol)is really strong.It was available here before ten years.Now isn't imported anymore.Along with GHB(never tried) are so called"date rape drugs),because of dangerous combo with alc.leaving the eventual victims fully uncapacitated and helpless

 

[emkee_reinvented]

The egg’s (gel formulation) do hit faster than capsules - but just because the peak plasma occurs within 2-3 hours doesn’t mean you won’t feel it first.

That said, Temazepam is not a fast acting benzo when taken orally, it’s Medium.

Fun fact: Caffeine takes roughly 45 min to work; I don’t know about you, but I feel more awake after the first few sips and this illustrates how powerful our mind is (placebo).

If making a comparison Temazepam (medium) or Midazolam (fast acting especially the nose spray)


Temazepam all the way.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Yes...Flunitrazepam(Rohypnol)is really strong.It was available here before ten years.Now isn't imported anymore.Along with GHB(never tried) are so called"date rape drugs),because of dangerous combo with alc.leaving the eventual victims fully uncapacitated and helpless

Such a shame that GHB got this reputation as well, it’s a stigma I do not think is earned (I’m sure there’s instances where it was used to that end though).

GHB is one of the only sleep meds that actually improves sleep architecture if used correctly (in two divided doses for each of the 2 sleep cycles one will experience and wake up from mid-night [re: first dose] and if not used round-the clock.

It only got this title when Flunitrazepam became significantly less available and illegal in some areas, and I think it was a myth/rumor spread by the ignorant.

For the Record: GHB is not the date-rape Drug.

 

[Hypnobis]

Have you tried Triazolam (Halcion)?

Cool chart

Clonazepam though is odd. Granted I've never taken MASSIVE doses of it, most is 2mg at any one time but I don't find it particularly sedative/hypnotic as the chart might suggest. It also appears quite low on physical and psychological anxiety. Strange as some people seem to have a big preference for clonazepam as a nice benzo. Makes sense on the anticonvulsant side of things as I do see it prescribed to epileptic and withdrawing alcoholics quite a lot so that makes sense. People always tell me clonazepam after a coke binge is a lifesaver and seems to be right. But it's a bit dulling for me. Not a benzo I really feel.

The chart just shows to me though diazepam really is the master of all.

 

[Hypnobis]

Cool chart

Clonazepam though is odd. Granted I've never taken MASSIVE doses of it, most is 2mg at any one time but I don't find it particularly sedative/hypnotic as the chart might suggest. It also appears quite low on physical and psychological anxiety. Strange as some people seem to have a big preference for clonazepam as a nice benzo. Makes sense on the anticonvulsant side of things as I do see it prescribed to epileptic and withdrawing alcoholics quite a lot so that makes sense. People always tell me clonazepam after a coke binge is a lifesaver and seems to be right. But it's a bit dulling for me. Not a benzo I really feel.

The chart just shows to me though diazepam really is the master of all.

Oh and just to add, so would this translate at all to associated seizure risk during WD? So for instance clonazepam has very strong anticonvulsant properties so the seizure risk would likely be higher on discontinuation? However, alprazolam seems much weaker as an anticonvulsant but carries a seizure risk if abused as well. Is this just a case of the dose determening the poison?

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Cool chart

Clonazepam though is odd. Granted I've never taken MASSIVE doses of it, most is 2mg at any one time but I don't find it particularly sedative/hypnotic as the chart might suggest. It also appears quite low on physical and psychological anxiety. Strange as some people seem to have a big preference for clonazepam as a nice benzo. Makes sense on the anticonvulsant side of things as I do see it prescribed to epileptic and withdrawing alcoholics quite a lot so that makes sense. People always tell me clonazepam after a coke binge is a lifesaver and seems to be right. But it's a bit dulling for me. Not a benzo I really feel.

The chart just shows to me though diazepam really is the master of all.

Yeah WTF clonazepam makes me absolutely wreck my way through what I have used to call "anxiety".

It has some very obvious effects and some more subtle but radical anyway-effects. When I was starting its regular use I couldn't really decide if I was sober or completely fucked.

 

[Nas47]

Such a shame that GHB got this reputation as well, it’s a stigma I do not think is earned (I’m sure there’s instances where it was used to that end though).

GHB is one of the only sleep meds that actually improves sleep architecture if used correctly (in two divided doses for each of the 2 sleep cycles one will experience and wake up from mid-night [re: first dose] and if not used round-the clock.

It only got this title when Flunitrazepam became significantly less available and illegal in some areas, and I think it was a myth/rumor spread by the ignorant.

For the Record: GHB is not the date-rape Drug.

Well...it is.There is enough toxicologic data that confirm this..That's not rumors nor myth.Personally got a friend of mine-victim to this practise(in U.K.)As to his usefulness about sleeping tool i don't know.May be is,may be not.If i had the oportunity to try it i will,but it's never been around here

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Have you tried Triazolam (Halcion)?

No after rereading my comment. It was a Midazolam nosespray. Triazolam I have never tried. Is it even faster then the aforementioned?

 

[Pill Clinton]

I find Diazepam to be excellent. I am a veteran of Benzo's I was on an astronomical amount of Xanax8mg & Klonopin 4mg together for over 10 years. Before that I was on 6mgs of Klonopin and I think it was 30mg Temazepam. Temazepam is very hard to get where I'm from as well as Halcion. But when I was in a horrible Car Accident they gave me Dilaudid, Oxycodone & a small dose of Diazepam it changed my whole out look.
Diazepam is just as effective as a Opiate like Codeine, Tussionex or Tramadol.

 

[John Highfield 47$#@]

I was wondering why people like Valium so much I've tried almost every benzo except maybe the rc benzos and valium is my least favorite it does help with anxiety But it also cause my leg muscles to twitch and eventually cramp up I passed out on Valium one time and my legs hurt so bad from cramps when I woke up that I couldn't get up for like 15 minutes I think Klonopins are much better

 

[TUFKA-Sleepwalker]

I used to do to diaz up tp 70 mg a day for many years and enjoyed it. Diclazepam after that.
Last night I took 60mg and am disabled for the rest of the weekend.
I'm getting old....i don't want to be that far out anymore.....pfooj

Edit: I remember I got addicted to the blues because they are a total reset benzo.
I literally have one weekend that I REALLY don't care...

 

[silver_lining]

This thread is great, thank you so much everyone for the info, personal experiences.

I've been shuffling between xanax, klonopin, & valium trying to decide the best one for me. Purely for Anxiety, personal & social.

I usually always take less than recommended daily dose, and usually begin a week long taper only after a few days of full time use so i can get a few weeks benzo sober. But i don't get fucked on any any of them except xanax. That shit is sneaky, it's the only one i have abused without even knowing it. One time i spent 3 days consuming 25mg & that was dangerous as hell. I would kinda come in and out of consciousness.... once moment i'd be playing blackjack at the casino, next moment i'd wake up 14hrs later in my bed with an ex girlfriend. Pop a few more then i'd come to with like 20 texts from even more ex girlfriends. I wish i was that outgoing and promiscuous naturally lol.

Valium tho, YES. Not alot of abuse potential for me, works great on the anxiety & doesn't effect my sleep to much. Usually super deep sleep the first few hours, then lots of dreaming the rest of the night. Usually wake up feeling refreshed too. Often I won't take my first dose (usually 5mg, sometimes 10) until the day is atleast 1/2 over. And if i take a second dose it seems to be best 3-4 hours after the first dose.

The only thing i don't like is the rebound anxiety. Valium is so effective and removing the anxiety, when it returns it's a bit overwhelming. I've found a few breathing excersises that help. Less caffiene & food helps drop it too.

 

[Xorkoth]

I don’t get how anyone describes Alprazolam as sedating or useful with insomnia. My doctor keeps me on it due to the more intoxicating and sedating effects of other BZDs. It doesn’t help me sleep at all except in calming my racing thoughts. Other benzos are far better for insomnia in my experience, any other benzos really. Alpraz is the most “upper” type benzo for me. 1mg of clonazepam and I’m passing out for the night, 1mg alpraz and I’m just chillin but can’t sleep.

Weird.

It always strikes me how different everyone is when it comes to how we react to benzos... for me, clonazepam has never really done much of anything, it definitely will reduce anxiety but I struggling to be sure it is even doing anything... it's like the weakest benzo for me (actually, untrue - ativan is the weakest, that shit is like the placebo effect for me, I swear. Give me ativan or a sugar pill, and I am not at all confident I could tell the difference). Whereas xanax will make me sleep and/or be rather wonky.

Diazepam though... I barely have any experience with it. Wish I had the chance to try it a bit more, I am rather confident I would like it.

 

[Survival0200]

I like the strong muscle relaxation effect of diazepam. But I don't like the short duration of action and the super long half life. Lorazepam has a much shorter half life, but its effects linger longer than diazepam's.

 

[Nas47]

As I remember diazepam is partial agonist of benzo subunit receptor.Very long half-life,good muscle relaxant properties,not particularly recreational except u mixed it with painmeds.....something like bupre of benzodiazepins.This always been my DOC,when talk 'bout benzos.....takin' it years can't feel nothing anymore,unless level up my dose,which i try to avoid.Pop it just to function normally&avoid withdrawls.Bad addiction....no doubt